Delboy Posted January 20, 2015 Report Posted January 20, 2015 Unfortunately the majority of members are not on here so they are in the dark. The mechanism is committee run the SNFC and deal with complaints with right of appeal to SHU. I don't make the rules just pointing them out. The committee should run the SNFC but they TOO ARE KEPT IN THE DARK. Just read the whole thread and you will realise that Jade, the committee decided to send the SNRPC a letter for joint convoying, was it done, NO!!!! That's just one example. Initially,the committee weren't even made aware of the Ypres re rubbering, The quicker their is an enquiry into everything, the better it will be for the integrity of the SNFC. I could write a book about the mismanagement of the SNFC ( officials )in recent years.
hotrod Posted January 20, 2015 Report Posted January 20, 2015 Unfortunately the majority of members are not on here so they are in the dark. The mechanism is committee run the SNFC and deal with complaints with right of appeal to SHU. I don't make the rules just pointing them out.Quite agree with some of this ,but unfortunately the now president is one of the party involved in the dispute . Which in my book he can't be involved as chairman in an EGM or any committee meeting about it .
peter pandy Posted January 20, 2015 Report Posted January 20, 2015 As the President Mr McCord was an ex-officio on the Management Committee, Perhaps the Membership should also know if he attended, Spoke on, or Voted in any of the complaints regarding points raised by Mr Rankine and WHY when the SNFC has a Web Site reports regarding Committee Meetings are not publicated. This is 2015 NOT 1915.
VMS Posted January 20, 2015 Report Posted January 20, 2015 Think the general consensus is that a EGM must be held and there has to be serious concerns and suspicion on the membership that don't support this action.
Big Davie Posted January 21, 2015 Report Posted January 21, 2015 Unfortunately the majority of members are not on here so they are in the dark. The mechanism is committee run the SNFC and deal with complaints with right of appeal to SHU. I don't make the rules just pointing them out.Jade That's one of the problems, the now ex president would not entertain any discussion or questions on the matters which were raised by some of the committee that served under him during his tenure, so as a result even the members who were present at the AGM were deliberately kept in the dark, it would also appear that decisions made at committee meetings are not being carried out by the secretary who I assume by some of her responses at the AGM is being instructed on how to proceed by a higher authority, which for me stinks and I'm by no means a political animal, however as a member I do and would like to know what is going on, if an official at an AGM will not allow a subject to be discussed or will not answer any questions which are related to that subject then for me they have something to hide, or perhaps it is sub judice which I am sure you will recall was used as a reason not to discuss the last SNFC misdemeanor.
Valiant Fifer Posted January 21, 2015 Report Posted January 21, 2015 Not picking on you, but this is the reason why these things happen. If you are correct, the vast majority were not there. This means the minority rule and govern the club. From that minority, it seems the majority have supported fanciers who have let the membership down. If that is the case, this meeting is needed to clear the air and sort the problem. This apathy is affecting every club and every federation from what I can gather. No detriment to those that do attend, at least they give their time to run the organisations. I don't disagree with a single word you said there m8! The membership as a whole maybe have to take more to do with the club and be more vigilante on these things IF THEIR ALLOWED. That way things might not get out of hand in the future. By not talking about these itchy subjects nothing ever gets solved.
clockman Posted January 21, 2015 Report Posted January 21, 2015 As the President Mr McCord was an ex-officio on the Management Committee, Perhaps the Membership should also know if he attended, Spoke on, or Voted in any of the complaints regarding points raised by Mr Rankine and WHY when the SNFC has a Web Site reports regarding Committee Meetings are not publicated. This is 2015 NOT 1915. John has never been on the management committee in the last 10 years that i know of,,,
Kyleakin Lofts Posted January 21, 2015 Report Posted January 21, 2015 I don't disagree with a single word you said there m8! The membership as a whole maybe have to take more to do with the club and be more vigilante on these things IF THEIR ALLOWED. That way things might not get out of hand in the future. By not talking about these itchy subjects nothing ever gets solved. A bit off subject, but I have just taken over as a fed sec and have already issued a newsletter to the club secs to keep them and, through them, their members informed of progress. Now I have all the members details the next newsletter will hopefully be sent direct. Cost will be the only preclusion for this, so it may happen via the secs again, but if I have enough email addresses, then that method is extremely cost effective. I also hope to be given permission for a FB group to use this means for communication, albeit without the chat, just the Committee and secs allowed to post, this to keep the members informed.
Guest IB Posted January 21, 2015 Report Posted January 21, 2015 John has never been on the management committee in the last 10 years that i know of,,, I think Peter is right in saying John McCord was an ex officio member of the Management Committee by virtue of his position as Convoyer. I don't recall he attended any of the normal Management meetings in the last two years, but one of the Drivers certainly did, for the same reason. The only time I recollect John and both Drivers at a Management Committee meeting was at a special meeting to hear & rule upon their complaint about a member of the Management Committee. This was in the larger part upheld, and the member disciplined.
clockman Posted January 21, 2015 Report Posted January 21, 2015 The management committee are the 15 members elected at the AGM.
Henrik Posted January 21, 2015 Report Posted January 21, 2015 The Convoyers are not part of the management commitee
peter pandy Posted January 21, 2015 Report Posted January 21, 2015 The Convoyers are not part of the management commitee SNFC Constitution and Rules.. Page 5, Rule 6 Committee of Management (v111) Convoyer to be an ex-officio member.
Guest stb- Posted January 21, 2015 Report Posted January 21, 2015 SNFC Constitution and Rules.. Page 5, Rule 6 Committee of Management (v111) Convoyer to be an ex-officio member.ha ha ha Peter you should be on committee you know more aboot the rules
peter pandy Posted January 21, 2015 Report Posted January 21, 2015 ha ha ha Peter you should be on committee you know more aboot the rules Thanks Rab, Its just that some make statements that are blatently untrue.Is Clockman and Henrik not members of the SNFC Management Committee ??.
Valiant Fifer Posted January 21, 2015 Report Posted January 21, 2015 Thanks Rab, Its just that some make statements that are blatently untrue.Is Clockman and Henrik not members of the SNFC Management Committee ??.
clockman Posted January 21, 2015 Report Posted January 21, 2015 Thanks Rab, Its just that some make statements that are blatently untrue.Is Clockman and Henrik not members of the SNFC Management Committee ??. No.My statements are true
Valiant Fifer Posted January 21, 2015 Report Posted January 21, 2015 A bit off subject, but I have just taken over as a fed sec and have already issued a newsletter to the club secs to keep them and, through them, their members informed of progress. Now I have all the members details the next newsletter will hopefully be sent direct. Cost will be the only preclusion for this, so it may happen via the secs again, but if I have enough email addresses, then that method is extremely cost effective. I also hope to be given permission for a FB group to use this means for communication, albeit without the chat, just the Committee and secs allowed to post, this to keep the members informed. Seems fair enough, think most member would welcome that.
Henrik Posted January 21, 2015 Report Posted January 21, 2015 I have been on the committee on two occasions since 2000 and last year is the first time any convoyer has ever come to a meeting of the management committee but there is one thing for sure I wont ever be back on it, too many greeting faced members who take the hump when they dont get their own way even after a democratic vote, bit like the independence referendum, rant on about the 45% who voted yes but forget all about the 55% who didnt
Guest stb- Posted January 21, 2015 Report Posted January 21, 2015 I have been on the committee on two occasions since 2000 and last year is the first time any convoyer has ever come to a meeting of the management committee but there is one thing for sure I wont ever be back on it, too many greeting faced members who take the hump when they dont get their own way even after a democratic vote, bit like the independence referendum, rant on about the 45% who voted yes but forget all about the 55% who didntthe 55% were mislead and misinformed :emoticon-0123-party:
VMS Posted January 21, 2015 Report Posted January 21, 2015 the 55% were mislead and misinformed :emoticon-0123-party:No there were not Rab,was a case that the 45% were Thick. :emoticon-0136-giggle:
airdrie2 Posted January 22, 2015 Report Posted January 22, 2015 No there were not Rab,was a case that the 45% were Thick. :emoticon-0136-giggle: time will tell |||
tiger Posted January 22, 2015 Report Posted January 22, 2015 wait for this guys if egm is called ive been told something that will stagger the membership just waiting on phone call and this alone would merit a EGM
walterboswell59 Posted January 22, 2015 Report Posted January 22, 2015 wait for this guys if egm is called ive been told something that will stagger the membership just waiting on phone call and this alone would merit a EGMdo tell john
Kyleakin Lofts Posted January 22, 2015 Report Posted January 22, 2015 wait for this guys if egm is called ive been told something that will stagger the membership just waiting on phone call and this alone would merit a EGM Ooh, you are a one!!! Soooo full of intrigue! :D
paddymac Posted January 22, 2015 Report Posted January 22, 2015 No there were not Rab,was a case that the 45% were Thick. :emoticon-0136-giggle: :lol:
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