Guest big50cal Posted January 16, 2015 Report Share Posted January 16, 2015 This needs to be sorted out for all the hard work that you put in to get your birds set for the big race if it does not get done it's a waste of time racing them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valiant Fifer Posted January 16, 2015 Report Share Posted January 16, 2015 This needs to be sorted out for all the hard work that you put in to get your birds set for the big race if it does not get done it's a waste of time racing them Yup Cal, somethings not right with this, doesn't add up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyleakin Lofts Posted January 16, 2015 Report Share Posted January 16, 2015 Speaking from the outside, the whole situation stinks.According to Gareth's statement the SNFC Committee employed SHU disciplined members to convoy their pigeons. This is not a good thing to do.Similarly when he raised the matter it appears he has been chastised. Not good.Security of pigeons brought into disrepute. Not good.Race panniers opened at race site. Not good. Can't remember any more, but this is certainly enough. I am not ready for National racing at this stage, but if I was it would not be with an organisation with so many clouds hanging over them. This needs cleared up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delboy Posted January 16, 2015 Report Share Posted January 16, 2015 Speaking from the outside, the whole situation stinks.According to Gareth's statement the SNFC Committee employed SHU disciplined members to convoy their pigeons. This is not a good thing to do.Similarly when he raised the matter it appears he has been chastised. Not good.Security of pigeons brought into disrepute. Not good.Race panniers opened at race site. Not good. Can't remember any more, but this is certainly enough. I am not ready for National racing at this stage, but if I was it would not be with an organisation with so many clouds hanging over them. This needs cleared up. Exactly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valiant Fifer Posted January 16, 2015 Report Share Posted January 16, 2015 Speaking from the outside, the whole situation stinks.According to Gareth's statement the SNFC Committee employed SHU disciplined members to convoy their pigeons. This is not a good thing to do.Similarly when he raised the matter it appears he has been chastised. Not good.Security of pigeons brought into disrepute. Not good.Race panniers opened at race site. Not good. Can't remember any more, but this is certainly enough. I am not ready for National racing at this stage, but if I was it would not be with an organisation with so many clouds hanging over them. This needs cleared up. A fair comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest big50cal Posted January 16, 2015 Report Share Posted January 16, 2015 Bring back the belt ha ha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valiant Fifer Posted January 16, 2015 Report Share Posted January 16, 2015 Bring back the belt ha ha Probably a bit more stiffer penalty than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest big50cal Posted January 16, 2015 Report Share Posted January 16, 2015 Execute then ha ha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter pandy Posted January 16, 2015 Report Share Posted January 16, 2015 why is this all being addressed now 7 month later, and not at the time? just curious.... No 1. I believe Mr Rankine attempted to discuss this at a Management Committee meeting and was not allowed to do so. Hence he waited till the AGM and was still not allowed to speak on the situation. "Cover Up ?". No 2. Mr McCord is part of No 1 and Mr Davidson was President of the alleged Mr Gibson incident. No 3 & No 4. Self explaining and brought to the attention of the members by Management Committee Member Ian Brown which seemed to leave members speechless. SO who is running the SNFC ??. "Is somebody pulling strings ??". All of this is facts and definately requires addressing by and to the concerned members. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valiant Fifer Posted January 16, 2015 Report Share Posted January 16, 2015 Execute then ha ha That might do the trick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valiant Fifer Posted January 16, 2015 Report Share Posted January 16, 2015 No 1. I believe Mr Rankine attempted to discuss this at a Management Committee meeting and was not allowed to do so. Hence he waited till the AGM and was still not allowed to speak on the situation. "Cover Up ?". No 2. Mr McCord is part of No 1 and Mr Davidson was President of the alleged Mr Gibson incident. No 3 & No 4. Self explaining and brought to the attention of the members by Management Committee Member Ian Brown which seemed to leave members speechless. SO who is running the SNFC ??. "Is somebody pulling strings ??". All of this is facts and definately requires addressing by the concerned members.Good post peter, I was wondering who the 3 convoyers were at that time, because I cant remember. Not pointing the finger here at anyone just curious. No doubt someone will come on here to refresh my memory with their names or i'll get a PM telling me. As I say just curious about the above incident that u mention. Which was how many years ago ????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter pandy Posted January 16, 2015 Report Share Posted January 16, 2015 Good post peter, I was wondering who the 3 convoyers were at that time, because I cant remember. Not pointing the finger here at anyone just curious. No doubt someone will come on here to refresh my memory with their names or i'll get a PM telling me. As I say just curious about the above incident that u mention. Which was how many years ago ????????? Six years I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valiant Fifer Posted January 16, 2015 Report Share Posted January 16, 2015 Six years I believe.Aye about six years, Hrmmmmmm seems like some may not be deterred in fact maybe determined! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mali1 Posted January 17, 2015 Report Share Posted January 17, 2015 From the outside looking in, if this isn't sorted out in an adult manner between the committee and the members I can see a court case pending, it seems you can do what you want in the SNFC and get away with it, true you will never get everybody agreeing on every topic but what everybody should agree on is there is no scope for cheating, and anybody found to be should be banned from ever racing pigeons again and evidence handed to the police, not let off Scott free Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiger Posted January 17, 2015 Report Share Posted January 17, 2015 It is my intention to force an EGM of the SNFC, I would be grateful of the support of any SNFC members' name and SNFC number in order that we get to the bottom of what has taken place in this club since June 2014. 1. An investigation into the discrepancies identified by J McCord at the 2014 Ypres racepoint and subsequent decisions taken by the officials in relation to this. 2. An inquiry surrounding the appointment of said Mr McCord as President and Mr T Davidson as JVP at the 2015 SNFC AGM. 3. A full and open answer from the Secretary Mrs M. Pryde as to why she failed to carry out the instructions of a management committee meeting decision to contact the SNRPC officials with the view to joint convoy the birds to the longest race in 2015. 4. Why Mr A. Garven previously failed to carry out the same instruction to contact the SNRPC in season 2012 Am easy contacted if you are of the same opinion as me. 07752220135 john ur out of order i do agree no 1 has 2 be addressed as for 2 3 & 4 no one asked about at A,G,M so they are finished in my book Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naedoos Posted January 17, 2015 Report Share Posted January 17, 2015 Maybe they do but decisions made in a cloud of controversy and no info given can only lead to suspicion. Only by suspicious people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naedoos Posted January 17, 2015 Report Share Posted January 17, 2015 Don't see How having an EGM can have any harm, what's there to hide ? If anything it might put SNFC members minds at rest before the National season starts. It's a ridiculous state of affaires that it hasn't been sorted out yet and should have been sorted at the AGM in front of all members present. None of this sweeping things under the carpet will get anyone anywhere. You would think that in view of what happened in the recent past that the membership would have learned their lesson, but it appears not! You all know the person im talking about here and to make matters worse this person got off scott free. This is serious, the MEMBERS need to get it sorted. Every member has the democratic right to know just what in the heck is going on not just the chosen few! The SNFC a once very Prestigious National club will continue to go downhill if these fiascos are not dealt with in a proper manner. These sort of things cant be left unanswered or the SNFC is in danger of loosing its integrity! Members be warned you don't have to take it lying down! If the members making all the noise now are that incensed then why did they not have it on the agenda for the AGM? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dal2 Posted January 17, 2015 Report Share Posted January 17, 2015 Only by suspicious peopleSo your opinion is there is no issue needing clarification and even if there was we should let it be examined by the very people that are named in it? ?? expletive remove not even the government get away with that these days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dal2 Posted January 17, 2015 Report Share Posted January 17, 2015 If the members making all the noise now are that incensed then why did they not have it on the agenda for the AGM?Lol. Who was going to pit it on an agenda if it wasn't discussed at management level? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VMS Posted January 17, 2015 Report Share Posted January 17, 2015 Only by suspicious peopleTypical Sweep Sweep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calder boy Posted January 17, 2015 Report Share Posted January 17, 2015 Can anyone tell me about the,Mr Gibson incident due to me not being in sport at that time it keeps cropping up and don't know details Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JADE Posted January 17, 2015 Report Share Posted January 17, 2015 Seems like a lot of sour grapes being sucked here. A few things bother me. Why put these allegations on a public forum to which a limited number of members have access. Follow the correct procedure! If Mr Rankin was dissatisfied with the actions of the SNFC officials and committee he has means to have it investigated via the SHU long before now. The four items listed by Mr Quinn would probably all be ruled out of order by the SHU if it ever got that length. A word of warning, the last time a personal disagreement between two members escalated into a major dispute it almost finished the SNFC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mali1 Posted January 17, 2015 Report Share Posted January 17, 2015 Seems like a lot of sour grapes being sucked here. A few things bother me. Why put these allegations on a public forum to which a limited number of members have access. Follow the correct procedure! If Mr Rankin was dissatisfied with the actions of the SNFC officials and committee he has means to have it investigated via the SHU long before now. The four items listed by Mr Quinn would probably all be ruled out of order by the SHU if it ever got that length. A word of warning, the last time a personal disagreement between two members escalated into a major dispute it almost finished the SNFC.So why did the last major dispute almost finish the SNFC, was it not handled properly? There's been a dark cloud hanging over the SNFC since the days of Scott Gibson, and IMO I don't believe anybody that was on the SNFC committee at the time should ever be back on it again, as for sour grapes, if somebody was accusing me of cheating I don't think I would be best pleased either, your right it wouldn't be put on a public forum but it would be dealt with, that's why this must be dealt with now by adults like adults before the SNFC is a club of the past Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clockman Posted January 17, 2015 Report Share Posted January 17, 2015 So why did the last major dispute almost finish the SNFC, was it not handled properly? There's been a dark cloud hanging over the SNFC since the days of Scott Gibson, and IMO I don't believe anybody that was on the SNFC committee at the time should ever be back on it again, as for sour grapes, if somebody was accusing me of cheating I don't think I would be best pleased either, your right it wouldn't be put on a public forum but it would be dealt with, that's why this must be dealt with now by adults like adults before the SNFC is a club of the past Why is that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JADE Posted January 17, 2015 Report Share Posted January 17, 2015 So why did the last major dispute almost finish the SNFC, was it not handled properly? There's been a dark cloud hanging over the SNFC since the days of Scott Gibson, and IMO I don't believe anybody that was on the SNFC committee at the time should ever be back on it again, as for sour grapes, if somebody was accusing me of cheating I don't think I would be best pleased either, your right it wouldn't be put on a public forum but it would be dealt with, that's why this must be dealt with now by adults like adults before the SNFC is a club of the past Nothing to do with the Scott Gibson case. If you don't know what I`m talking about you`ve obviously not been in the doos that long. Ask some of the wise old heads to enlighten you. It is always wise to listen to your elders and I repeat the SNFC wouldn't survive what happened last time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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