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Don't think anyone is on the same playing field as Ally tbh

 

Bt I fail to see your point really...you live were you live and there are options racing from 700 800 and it is possible

 

If a fancier wants to race it then fire in

 

Yes we have mountains and hills etc bt hasn't stopped great performances on the night etc from the channel

 

Finly brothers 675 on the day into Cambuslang

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The skill a went to 700 MLS is 700 MLS regardless where you live the doos aren't climbing the terrain if the doos spot on and the weather suits your part of the country you'll get them to many make excuses tbh jock Ellis done it and Alan raeside holds the record for over 1000mls and he's in Irvine there's plenty done it before it's not impossible but you've got to send

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The skill a went to 700 MLS is 700 MLS regardless where you live the doos aren't climbing the terrain if the doos spot on and the weather suits your part of the country you'll get them to many make excuses tbh jock Ellis done it and Alan raeside holds the record for over 1000mls and he's in Irvine there's plenty done it before it's not impossible but you've got to send

Totally disagree 700 miles into Kent from the continent is completely different from 700 miles into the west of Scotland,if some enter and are successful you will see the difference

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If Scottish fanciers are not willing to race the Cherbourg peninsula from 500-600 miles

Why would they be clambering to race the same route from 800 mls

Just asking like ?

There will be no clambering you will be lucky if there a handful but good luck to the few that try,would love to have a go one day but for me it's 4 year old plus birds that have been over the channel several times and there hard to come by but as I said if I had the birds I would certainly give it a go

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There will be no clambering you will be lucky if there a handful but good luck to the few that try,would love to have a go one day but for me it's 4 year old plus birds that have been over the channel several times and there hard to come by but as I said if I had the birds I would certainly give it a go

Agree Vinnie

But for that to be successful they would first have to be educated on line of flight

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im not saying its impossible at all.. and fair play to the very very very few who have done it in over 100 yesars of rcaing in to Scotland....

 

But 700 miles to Glasgow is a complete different game to 700 miles in to the South of England or Belgium or Holland

 

 

Totally disagree 700 miles into Kent from the continent is completely different from 700 miles into the west of Scotland,if some enter and are successful you will see the difference

There is no doubt 700 MLS into Scotland can be done and that it will take good doors to do it, but you are both spot on, 700 / 800 into let's say the whole of Scotland is a whole different ball game from 700 into the south coast of England IMO

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Timing and miles on the wing will be a problem. These races are at an earlier time than our National races, so a specialist club may be needed to allow time on wing before sending with organisations from the south of England.

 

There have been a lot of problems raised in this discussion, but problems do not mean it is an impossible task. You have to be aware of the problems to manage a work-round.

 

I would be very interested in answers to the original questions regarding preparation for these events. This is where the coming together of ideas may bring resultant success. :)

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Just to clarify the comments about the races that we have been racing in the last few years. We have been members of BICC and of the NEGDC (North East Greater Distance Club). As Davie L said, we have not sent to NFC.

 

The NEGDC doesn't get a whole lot of publicity but is basically a specialist club for lofts in the UNC area that I approached to get some extra distance races. They fly with Yorkshire federations and have a coast race followed by channel races from the back end of May, from Falaise and Le Mans and Poitiers, ending up with a Bordeaux race joint convoyed with Midlands National. We have sent to their Bedhampton, Falaise and Le Mans races fairly regularly over the last 3 years, as they come along before the SNFC channel races start and allow them to double back. Once the SNFC channel programme kicks in, we send only with SNFC. In 2015 we sent to the Bordeaux race at the end of the season (the week after the last SNFC race). I think we fly 777m from there. Sent 1 got 1 but it was a smash of a race. The intention was to send that cock from Bordeaux to the Agen International this year but for some reason he was struggling all year and we stopped him well before Agen.

 

With BICC we have only sent to Le Mans when the race was moved to the week after the SNFC programme ended. In the last 2 years we had pigeons ready to send to Poitiers (670m) with BICC in mid June but in both years the forecast was dire and we never sent them. Just as well as it turned out. Maybe next year we will get there.

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Just to clarify the comments about the races that we have been racing in the last few years. We have been members of BICC and of the NEGDC (North East Greater Distance Club). As Davie L said, we have not sent to NFC.

 

The NEGDC doesn't get a whole lot of publicity but is basically a specialist club for lofts in the UNC area that I approached to get some extra distance races. They fly with Yorkshire federations and have a coast race followed by channel races from the back end of May, from Falaise and Le Mans and Poitiers, ending up with a Bordeaux race joint convoyed with Midlands National. We have sent to their Bedhampton, Falaise and Le Mans races fairly regularly over the last 3 years, as they come along before the SNFC channel races start and allow them to double back. Once the SNFC channel programme kicks in, we send only with SNFC. In 2015 we sent to the Bordeaux race at the end of the season (the week after the last SNFC race). I think we fly 777m from there. Sent 1 got 1 but it was a smash of a race. The intention was to send that cock from Bordeaux to the Agen International this year but for some reason he was struggling all year and we stopped him well before Agen.

 

With BICC we have only sent to Le Mans when the race was moved to the week after the SNFC programme ended. In the last 2 years we had pigeons ready to send to Poitiers (670m) with BICC in mid June but in both years the forecast was dire and we never sent them. Just as well as it turned out. Maybe next year we will get there.

 

This answers the problem I raised, if some tie in could be made. The other problems would not be unsurmountable if the preparation was correct.

 

Will anyone post the preparation for complete novices like myself. :)

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This answers the problem I raised, if some tie in could be made. The other problems would not be unsurmountable if the preparation was correct.

 

Will anyone post the preparation for complete novices like myself. :)

What we need is the likes of John Rumney,Bob McKie and Anderson & son fron the UNC area to explain how they do it. Speaking a few times with John Rumney it would shock the majority of fanciers how he gets his birds ready for these BICC races. His birds will be at Falaise at the end of April 17! Approx 420 mls ,most of us are at only 100mls. We also need to have a look at the procedures Of the likes of John Ellis and the top guys in the North Section of the SNFC. These guys are timing in regular at approx 700mls.

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What we need is the likes of John Rumney,Bob McKie and Anderson & son fron the UNC area to explain how they do it. Speaking a few times with John Rumney it would shock the majority of fanciers how he gets his birds ready for these BICC races. His birds will be at Falaise at the end of April 17! Approx 420 mls ,most of us are at only 100mls. We also need to have a look at the procedures Of the likes of John Ellis and the top guys in the North Section of the SNFC. These guys are timing in regular at approx 700mls.

think these would be the best two pigeon men in britain to ask about 600ml plus racing, brian denny, in the nfc against the full of england and winning at 750ml/ jim donaldson peterhead, with the snfc 30 years of winning 600ml plus races,

 

good pigeons prepared right win no matter were you stay , south/east/north/west, makes no differnce,, time on wing is the killer

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