The 6 Feds Idea On Snfc/snrpc Thread

[blucock]

Think tbf the Midland Fed President is stuck between a rock and a hard place on this one. His position with the SNFC would be jeopardised if he supported what would be considered a "breakaway" organisation.

 

My opinion is that even over and above the SNRPC that a WoS amal would be more of a semi-national organisation than that small club

 

JMO

 

Baz

[Guest stb-]

Food for thought, The 6 Feds organise a young bird race from Cheltenham the same day as the SNFC hiring Lanarkshire Transporter in fact why not organise a yearling derby from Cheltenham, Then old birds into Sartilly, Rennes, Nantes and Avranches.

Our birds would cross the channel at the Cherburg peninsular hitting the Isle of White and up the west side of the Pennines through Beatock following the M74 due to no East coast birds to take them through the tweed valleys.

We in the West would have truer racing regardless of the wind.

Sorry I am off topic perhaps an administrator could rectify.

Peter i always thought you raced in falkirk when did it move to the west

 

Falkirk is situated right at the centre of Scotland. It has a growing population of over

153,000, with over 50,000 people working in the area. The main towns are Falkirk itself,

Grangemouth - Scotland’s premier port and home to its only major oil refinery - Bo’ness,

Denny, Larbert and Stenhousemuir. Falkirk is one of the best connected areas in Scotland,

within an hour of Glasgow and just 20 minutes drive from Edinburgh

airport. It has excellent motorway and rail links, a sea terminal and 60% of Scotland’s

population is within a 60 minute journey.

[tyson]

all the scottish feds should be back down the west route no clashing with english north roaders

[geordie1234]

So the President of the Midland Fed is against the idea ?, well there's a surprise as he is not only the President of the Midland Fed but Secretary of the SNFC !! Says a lot regarding what he thinks of the Fed members when he is not interested in their welfare.

The same guy that wanted to hop onto lanarkshire feds back after the midland got leathered

[peter pandy]

Peter i always thought you raced in falkirk when did it move to the west

 

Falkirk is situated right at the centre of Scotland. It has a growing population of over

153,000, with over 50,000 people working in the area. The main towns are Falkirk itself,

Grangemouth - Scotland’s premier port and home to its only major oil refinery - Bo’ness,

Denny, Larbert and Stenhousemuir. Falkirk is one of the best connected areas in Scotland,

within an hour of Glasgow and just 20 minutes drive from Edinburgh

airport. It has excellent motorway and rail links, a sea terminal and 60% of Scotland’s

population is within a 60 minute journey.

 

Don't stay in Falkirk now. Retired to Camelon and Midland Fed about 3 years ago.

[JohnQuinn]

I would like to make it clear from the off that this is Not a Challenge to the SNFC and imo we wouldn't race "against" them, in other words hold races on the same day as them.

I am not at all a divisive man, on the contrary Inclusion is what i'm all about, and better racing with bigger convoys from the middle distance races in particular into the West would improve all our chances in SNFC races.

I have been a member of the SNFC all my life and intend to remain so. A young bird race from around 250mls into the West the week BEFORE the YBN is more in my thinking, which i believe would improve our returns from the Ybn itself for those who choose to still go to it, but i am only one man with one vote and will, as i always do, go with the Majority vote on any proposals put forward at any subsequent meetings on this subject.

Onwards and Upwards lads, the ball is rolling and gathering momentum as we discuss this, so lets make it happen.

[Guest big50cal]

Iam with you john

[Guest stb-]

Iam with you john

OK yODA

[eastcoaster]

I proposed Stafford for the ybs at our last Agm (midland). And was brushed aside so I am with you on this 100 percent.

[gulkie]

To get fanciers opinions about what they would like done about the west racing with the 5

Feds from say Stafford ,saves hijacking the SNFC/ SNRPC ?. in my opinion I think it's its

A step in the right direction and it should be on the AGM agenda of the 5 Feds let the members

Say what they want..

[Chris Little]

Who are the 5 feds ?

[walterboswell59]

come on guys this is the way forward for the west and lanarkshire lets get behind these guys and move our sport forward it seems to be us the members that want this john quinn has put an offer on the table for all who are interested to contact him and get the ball rolling this could be a fantastic opertunitity for the west lets not let it slip we should all let our feds know we want this to happen remember we are the members we must say what we want well done to all the guys that have spoken to john so far it does no harm to talk and report back to the members thats what its all about good luck with it there is no reason i can see for this not to happen west is best for us

[JohnQuinn]

It's actually 6 or 7 organisations Chris, Solway, Ayrshire, South Lanarkshire, Glasgow, Midlands and Lanarkshire. I wouldn't discount Faulhouse club either, who are in fact West Lothian. They asked a few years back if they could keep the "W" prefix when the West Lothian Fed was folding and got the go ahead from the SHU to keep using it, so i would think it would be a benefit to those guys too if they wanted to come on board as they only have that one club.

[K J Young]

To get fanciers opinions about what they would like done about the west racing with the 5

Feds from say Stafford ,saves hijacking the SNFC/ SNRPC ?. in my opinion I think it's its

A step in the right direction and it should be on the AGM agenda of the 5 Feds let the members

Say what they want..

 

The Strathcylde Amal was set up for this reason years ago , and imo was a great thing. But when one fed thinks its there way or no way , thats what put an end to it.

There is no problem in setting this up again for , Lanarkshire , Midland , Ayrshire and Solway also South Lanarkshire and Glasgow could be involved.

[Kyleakin Lofts]

Great idea.

[dal2]

Are we talking yb only? Not sure I would like to see entries being taken from the SNFC national but think that the week before the yb nat should be considered an option, getting our birds out to the distance required and a mix up before the nat.

[blucock]

Really not sure why anyone would want to not upset the SNFC ? Lanarkshire fed don't go with them and the send from Ayrshire (11000 rings distributed last year) is paltry imo The Amal should be from Stafford ONWARDS including the channel send. If fanciers want to go with SNFC fair enough but the geography of Scotland doesn't lend itself to "fair" national racing - fact

 

The West organisations should be aiming for their own semi-national organisation imo. It is simply a matter of establishing if we can get the numbers in terms of send to justify a full Amal programme within the next couple of seasons. Instead of a paltry send if we can get a racing line with a significant convoy then west lofts will be able to send teams to these races instead of the paltry send which seems to be the norm at the moment... that's the theory anyway??

[hotrod]

Really not sure why anyone would want to not upset the SNFC ? Lanarkshire fed don't go with them and the send from Ayrshire (11000 rings distributed last year) is paltry imo The Amal should be from Stafford ONWARDS including the channel send. If fanciers want to go with SNFC fair enough but the geography of Scotland doesn't lend itself to "fair" national racing - fact

 

The West organisations should be aiming for their own semi-national organisation imo. It is simply a matter of establishing if we can get the numbers in terms of send to justify a full Amal programme within the next couple of seasons. Instead of a paltry send if we can get a racing line with a significant convoy then west lofts will be able to send teams to these races instead of the paltry send which seems to be the norm at the moment... that's the theory anyway??

Totally disagree with you on the channel racing , IMHO if this were o start up again yes have racing out to coast. But leave the overseas racing to the nationals , I've always said I would do away with the inland races from the national program . Young bird racing I'm not bothered what races were set up I don't bother racing mines.

[Rooster J. Cogburn]

Will be interesting to see what comes of Don Quinn's sit down with the five families

 

I think to restrict the idea to purely a young bird race isn't the way this notion could best serve Scottish Pigeon racing on the whole.

 

Either way it's an interesting concept and partly in keeping with what I believe would be the best possible format for Scotland, as a pigeon racing nation, to race their doos.

 

It's all down to cooperation I suppose, which is not a trait the pigeon fancier is particularly well known for

 

Best of luck and I hope it can be made a success

[blucock]

Why would we want to continue racing from the channel with 80% of the convoy from the South and East sections thereby even having an amal result would be skewed because of drag? No much use having a westerly programme and then sending with the SNFC and your birds suddenly coming out the east?

 

Not really worth having an amal for one or two races per season? It should be looking at the west of Scotland eventually racing a programme of races - the biggest fed in Scotland don't even have the National races on their programme ...

 

Rooster,

 

isn't the NW fed invited to the amal?

[dal2]

Why would we want to continue racing from the channel with 80% of the convoy from the South and East sections thereby even having an amal result would be skewed because of drag? No much use having a westerly programme and then sending with the SNFC and your birds suddenly coming out the east?

Not really worth having an amal for one or two races per season? It should be looking at the west of Scotland eventually racing a programme of races - the biggest fed in Scotland don't even have the National races on their programme ...

 

Rooster,

 

isn't the NW fed invited to the amal?

Solway seem to manage from the channel racing west every week?

[Delboy]

It's actually 6 or 7 organisations Chris, Solway, Ayrshire, South Lanarkshire, Glasgow, Midlands and Lanarkshire. I wouldn't discount Faulhouse club either, who are in fact West Lothian. They asked a few years back if they could keep the "W" prefix when the West Lothian Fed was folding and got the go ahead from the SHU to keep using it, so i would think it would be a benefit to those guys too if they wanted to come on board as they only have that one club.

no

Good idea but alot of problems to be sorted that you havent much control of.What governing body is used for the race if the rpra feds are included.Who transports the pigeons, who controlls the races?????Every fed should be equal in the Amalgamation, so no big fed trying to run it, this was the reason for failure before.

[dal2]

no

Good idea but alot of problems to be sorted that you havent much control of.What governing body is used for the race if the rpra feds are included.Who transports the pigeons, who controlls the races?????Every fed should be equal in the Amalgamation, so no big fed trying to run it, this was the reason for failure before.

would a race control team not be set like usual Derek?

[K J Young]

When the Strathcylde Amal was formed if my memory is correct. There was a top table put in place President , secretary etc to arrange all races ,also there was an appointed race controller, where it fell down was to do with transport.

I think it should just be for Inland Racing only and hopefully with good returns into the west would give us a better drag at the channel races .JMO

Also I would like to see all the Feds on the west side flying back down the west.

[bibendium]

When the Strathcylde Amal was formed if my memory is correct. There was a top table put in place President , secretary etc to arrange all races ,also there was an appointed race controller, where it fell down was to do with transport.

I think it should just be for Inland Racing only and hopefully with good returns into the west would give us a better drag at the channel races .JMO

Also I would like to see all the Feds on the west side flying back down the west.

 

Changed your opinion Kenny? only a few weeks ago you seemed adamant that going down the East was your preference.