Henry Mair 1000M Team

[geordie1234]

I have no idea how many winners he has produced over the years but the information i quoted is factual.

I know he has sold pigeons to many countries in the world.

I know I had a visit from a Japanese fancier who was in the area on business and Henry sold him a few on that occasion.

I wouldn't part with any pigeons on that occasion but Henrys friend who accompanied the party advised me to sell and charge plenty as the Japanese guy was loaded.

The party which included an interpreter left me heading for Blantyre.

 

Wonder who in Blantyre made a few bucks

[Jim hannah]

Forget the mans name who had Vend, Turban and many other well known birds. He had a fair few way Henry Mair's blood in them and his were sold for a small fortune so I wouldn't write the mans birds off too soon !!

S.G. Biss or was also known as Jim Biss

 

Wonder who in Blantyre made a few bucks

Your talking to him he owned companies, one of them Golfing and was over here for the golf at St Andrews

Edited October 14, 2016 by Jim hannah

[kingbilly 1]

S.G. Biss or was also known as Jim Biss

 

 

Your talking to him he owned companies, one of them Golfing and was over here for the golf at St Andrews

Van Hana strikes again well done big man C you tonight lol

[Novice]

S.G. Biss or was also known as Jim Biss

 

 

Your talking to him he owned companies, one of them Golfing and was over here for the golf at St Andrews

 

I deliberately didn't name names.

I believe the guy was also buying knitwear in the borders.

At the time of the visit I had just introduced Brasspenning pigeons from Louella. He immediately recognised as Janssens. He went on to explain that he had 30 direct from Arendonk.

When we left the loft I asked if they would like anything to eat or drink. They declined. When I asked if they would like to use the toilet their faces lit up. They had all been standing there with their legs crossed and wouldn't ask to use the loo.

[Roland]

Was always , or rather often said, that after 3 generations they weren't any good for racing. Now as to why it is often said as a proven fact I know not. Neither whether there is any truth in that. Or are they any good for breeding ... How can it be that if one believe after 3 generations they can't race, how can it be thought that they can breed racers?

 

My thoughts would be, if regular out crossed then the birds natural elements would be fine including their homing ability.

If not, then a very good out cross would have to be the order of the day... if not too late? Genes etc. will always be maintained. Others call it the 'Blood'.

 

the art of breeding and mating is what separates often the men from the boys.

My personal 3 favourites in that score would be Bussceart, Masserella, and old man Janseen. These in that regard see in minutes what other never will in a life time. S.V. Reet only ever chose, bought or bred a bird via handling it.

 

Best families would be say 3 x 6 pairs of stock. Once proven in the basket continue out crossing the families.

 

Pointers recorded as to the merits and traits.

Draw up a list of what makes, or what you believe makes a good racer. Also what is a bad trait etc. Bad trapper, strong endurance etc. etc.

Number them say 1 to 20.

Take a hen and mark accordingly out of 20 the good, not so good and bad traits. Like wise a cock bird. Now put against each other on paper. Pair strengths against not so good.. Too many bad traits pair together would only strengthen Bad traits and visa versa eh!

 

If one mates by the eyes then surely, whether an expert or not, Corn eye mated to an earth. Means the young will grow. JMO.

As for me I think the eye is only a mirror to the sul, no more and nothing less... But many fly a great loft on it.

[Guest johnhunter]

Was always , or rather often said, that after 3 generations they weren't any good for racing. Now as to why it is often said as a proven fact I know not. Neither whether there is any truth in that. Or are they any good for breeding ... How can it be that if one believe after 3 generations they can't race, how can it be thought that they can breed racers?

 

My thoughts would be, if regular out crossed then the birds natural elements would be fine including their homing ability.

If not, then a very good out cross would have to be the order of the day... if not too late? Genes etc. will always be maintained. Others call it the 'Blood'.

 

the art of breeding and mating is what separates often the men from the boys.

My personal 3 favourites in that score would be Bussceart, Masserella, and old man Janseen. These in that regard see in minutes what other never will in a life time. S.V. Reet only ever chose, bought or bred a bird via handling it.

 

Best families would be say 3 x 6 pairs of stock. Once proven in the basket continue out crossing the families.

 

Pointers recorded as to the merits and traits.

Draw up a list of what makes, or what you believe makes a good racer. Also what is a bad trait etc. Bad trapper, strong endurance etc. etc.

Number them say 1 to 20.

Take a hen and mark accordingly out of 20 the good, not so good and bad traits. Like wise a cock bird. Now put against each other on paper. Pair strengths against not so good.. Too many bad traits pair together would only strengthen Bad traits and visa versa eh!

 

If one mates by the eyes then surely, whether an expert or not, Corn eye mated to an earth. Means the young will grow. JMO.

As for me I think the eye is only a mirror to the sul, no more and nothing less... But many fly a great loft on it.

 

roland your straight jacket is getting made right now lol

[Johnbeattoch]

roland your straight jacket is getting made right now lol

:emoticon-0136-giggle:

[Valiant Fifer]

Some other names that sent with the 1,000ml

Club along with Henry Mair were Alan Raeside from Ayrshire, quite a few around Ayrshire used to send also Dave Smith from Dunning John Ellis, Bert Stewart Carnoustie then the Crieff loft of Hunter Gauld & Saunders. There was a well known loft in Gorebridge who did well, names on the tip of my tongue. I will get some of the other names in time when i remember.

 

There were other guys from Fife, Dundee and Angus and of course even guys from the North sect Abbie Bruce was one that springs to mind also wilson Noble Fraserburgh who also sent and im sure recorded a pigeon from Rome some 12 hundred odd mls i think. Stand corrected on the latter part of this post tho.

[Valiant Fifer]

Forgot to say that the 1,000ml club pigeons were convoyed by the British Barcelaona Club

a very friendly a successful National club.

 

Another couple of names just spring to mind namely Eddie Newcombe who aent at least once and several times my old mentor Dennis Dall!

[Roland]

roland your straight jacket is getting made right now lol

 

Well John, if you instigated it then no worries, well not for me, but may be a pointer for you so be careful lol :rolleyes:

[walterboswell59]

Did Jim Biss not have Turban ?.

think it was the way he combed his hair peter lol

[eastcoaster]

think it was the way he combed his hair peter lol

[dunc50]

think it was the way he combed his hair peter lol

 

thats what the site needs waty bit o crack,

[We man]

think it was the way he combed his hair peter lol

Cracker Walter LMFAO.

[geordie1234]

think it was the way he combed his hair peter lol

Fk howling lol cracker

[VAGIN]

The same Hendry Mair Had the same advert in the BHW around the same time last year. So if he sells the other half of his stock birds that should mean Hendry Mair nae mair.

Defo a ( FEATHER MERCHANT) Of the highest order

[Valiant Fifer]

Lol

[Dave barrie]

nobody mentioned wilson noble fae the broch, ime sure he still holds the record for the 1000ml with violet eyes and a couple o other yins

[Guest johnhunter]

nobody mentioned wilson noble fae the broch, ime sure he still holds the record for the 1000ml with violet eyes and a couple o other yins

he is mentioned on page 33

[Dave barrie]

apolagie to valient fifer, just seen the ref to wilson, by the way i had ocasion to visit hendry mair when doing the courier for doos tae elgin, a gentleman right enough , saw the lofts but not inside, picked up around teatime, made very welcome and got a cardboard box of around six y/birds for elgin and delivered around dinner next, however the bottom o the box was sodden through and apparently three died afterwards, not a good outcome but the youngeens were watered on route in the morning but they had the smell about them,when i spoke to the flyer the following week he had phoned to complain and was told to blame courier, nice ane hendry yi chancer

[Roland]

Jim was a fancier of exceptional quality prior to moving from London. Winning much in club, feds and the big combines etc.

Dagenham way I believe off hand if memory serves me right.

S. Hall 'Originally'. bought Jim Biss's birds for him after THEY decided and agreed. They sought and bought birds the length and breadth of the U.K. When he moved, they decided where to, both for business and pigeons, though mostly for pigeons and locations. Vast sums for them days was paid, and as nigh all strains bred down from distance and proven hard day races.

Before John Hunter jumps on another post It is a fact John. Mind per usual he wouldn't / doesn't say why, let alone give an answer in any regards lol :emoticon-0136-giggle:

[Big Davie]

Took a run down to Irvine about 15 years ago when Henry had an advert in the BHW, also selling half his stock birds at the time, he was advertising one particular strain of birds that I already had direct , when I arrived he had about 20 birds in a couple of baskets for me to look at ( I had called so he knew I was coming ) anyway looked at them all and they were a heap of crud in poor condition'. When I told him there was nothing there for me he went into the loft (. I didn't get in ) and brought out another 4 birds in a small basket, these weren't any better bar one cock which I quite liked so took a chance bought this one

 

When I put it in the loft it turned out that it always had sloppy droppings which although I treated it for everything were never perfect, anyway the time came and I paired it up where the youngsters in the nest also had sloppy droppings so the cock and the youngsters were moved on permanently

 

Possibly just unlucky but I doubt it, wouldn't recommend buying birds here to anyone

[cemetary]

Took a run down to Irvine about 15 years ago when Henry had an advert in the BHW, also selling half his stock birds at the time, he was advertising one particular strain of birds that I already had direct , when I arrived he had about 20 birds in a couple of baskets for me to look at ( I had called so he knew I was coming ) anyway looked at them all and they were a heap of crud in poor condition'. When I told him there was nothing there for me he went into the loft (. I didn't get in ) and brought out another 4 birds in a small basket, these weren't any better bar one cock which I quite liked so took a chance bought this one

 

When I put it in the loft it turned out that it always had sloppy droppings which although I treated it for everything were never perfect, anyway the time came and I paired it up where the youngsters in the nest also had sloppy droppings so the cock and the youngsters were moved on permanently

 

Possibly just unlucky but I doubt it, wouldn't recommend buying birds here to anyone

 

 

Went to a well known fancier before he passed away, he did the same, had them in a basket to pick from, ( I paid money for the ones I was to pick from not him) money down the TUBES.

[ALF]

Good to see i'm not the only 1 that wouldnae entertain them anymore...

[Valiant Fifer]

apolagie to valient fifer, just seen the ref to wilson, by the way i had ocasion to visit hendry mair when doing the courier for doos tae elgin, a gentleman right enough , saw the lofts but not inside, picked up around teatime, made very welcome and got a cardboard box of around six y/birds for elgin and delivered around dinner next, however the bottom o the box was sodden through and apparently three died afterwards, not a good outcome but the youngeens were watered on route in the morning but they had the smell about them,when i spoke to the flyer the following week he had phoned to complain and was told to blame courier, nice ane hendry yi chancer

Nae need tae apoligise Davie ma lad, do u know some other north lads that used to send to Barcelona/Palamos ?