JohnQuinn Posted July 1, 2014 Report Posted July 1, 2014 My point in all of this is, Alencon is our Derby/GrandNational/Crufts, compare it to what you will, it is the GOLD CUP race, the PREMIER RACE IN SCOTLAND and as such there is NO ROOM for error, when the error is of the magnitude of the liberation on Saturday then you've proved beyond doubt that you are not up to the job and as such should not control any further races, be it by themselves or by the committee they should not control Ypres. That's my opinion and it won't alter one iota.
peter pandy Posted July 1, 2014 Report Posted July 1, 2014 Tyson aka Peter on posts #2 & #90 said it all and reading between the lines would have held on. Perhaps we should be getting him back on board.
geordie1234 Posted July 1, 2014 Author Report Posted July 1, 2014 Wouldn't matter we had him and Jim Hannah on board and Dr Lynch over ruled them fkn nonesense
Delboy Posted July 1, 2014 Report Posted July 1, 2014 Wouldn't matter we had him and Jim Hannah on board and Dr Lynch over ruled them fkn nonesense Yes that's right Geo, Dr Lynch did the dirty on all the race controllers and fek all happened about it.
frankdooman Posted July 1, 2014 Report Posted July 1, 2014 Here's a question the snfc used to pay an advisor when I was on the committee to give them the all singing all dancng forecast and if memory serves me right it wasn't cheap it would be interesting to see that report did the controller just take his word on that and wee are only blaming the one guy and should be more if u charge for services and something goes wrong u should have public liability to cover any losses surly
HOMER49 Posted July 1, 2014 Report Posted July 1, 2014 Wouldn't matter we had him and Jim Hannah on board and Dr Lynch over ruled them fkn nonesense HiHow very true CheersHomer 49
nisbetx Posted July 2, 2014 Report Posted July 2, 2014 we are on here moaning about a bit of rain what about the birds that migrate from scotland to africa year in year out dont you think they encounter a lot more severe rain than our birds do but still make it.im pretty new to this distance flying to most here but i have got four 2 year olds left and a yearling thats it, the four 2 year olds will be going to claremont if they cant make it then they are not good enough and i will start again until i get them from france in any weather ,i wonder how many other lofts are sitting with distance doos that are 2 years old and over and make excuses for them not going at the end of the day they are homing pigeons pure and simple if they cant do it when they hit a bit of rain when others in the same area do it then they are no good simpleglory hunter who has total disregard for the birds welfare and shouldn't be allowed to race them.
aye ready Posted July 2, 2014 Report Posted July 2, 2014 Tyson aka Peter on posts #2 & #90 said it all and reading between the lines would have held on. Perhaps we should be getting him back on board.My thoughts exactly peter
hotrod Posted July 2, 2014 Report Posted July 2, 2014 we are on here moaning about a bit of rain what about the birds that migrate from scotland to africa year in year out dont you think they encounter a lot more severe rain than our birds do but still make it.im pretty new to this distance flying to most here but i have got four 2 year olds left and a yearling thats it, the four 2 year olds will be going to claremont if they cant make it then they are not good enough and i will start again until i get them from france in any weather ,i wonder how many other lofts are sitting with distance doos that are 2 years old and over and make excuses for them not going at the end of the day they are homing pigeons pure and simple if they cant do it when they hit a bit of rain when others in the same area do it then they are no good simple Just like to point out to u John , that these birds that migrate are WILD and feed in the wild only leave when the weather/wind is right for them and as someone else said we don't know how many make this journey , Your second point , well to me just disgraceful , sending birds just because their 2 yr olds , every top fancier will send yes but only if they think they are right to go not just because their 2 ,only properly prepared pigeons will make it in good time IF the weather is right ,then it's a LOTTERY .
clockman Posted July 2, 2014 Report Posted July 2, 2014 How many have sent letters in.? HENRIK EMPTY YOUR PM BOX
Roland Posted July 2, 2014 Report Posted July 2, 2014 Not calling, or voicing an opinion at all regards any right or wrongvia thye RACE Control committee or convoyer. But here's food for thought.... Money and Costs and looking after a bank balance may have a bearing. Some will remember, and others recall, when the Gas / Oil rigs were being built around the coast line, and remember how quickly the weather changed, the Powers to be used the RAF for information regards best times and suitability in doing certain jobs. The costs involved meant an accuracy was paramount. They gave nigh a minute by minute account etc. and was nigh spot on every time. So good some Feds used it down here. Costs were minimal too. BUT the members whinged and wined so much that it was abandoned and we went back to the hit and miss, costly, guessing game and what not. I don't know, but I would wager big time that if their service was used the results would have been far different! Indeed I don't know whether one can still use it. I've tried to implement it here about, especially after a bad race. Same results unfortunately 'Waal Yeah, but it's not often we get races like that (EEKK!)normally we have better races ... It's... any and every other excuse. Drag, Up North combine and the stupid clashing etc. etc. JMO
geordie1234 Posted July 2, 2014 Author Report Posted July 2, 2014 Would never in a million years complain about a race controllers decision for one reason only.... I don't have the knackers to do the job myself and wouldn't for all the tea in china
blaz Posted July 2, 2014 Report Posted July 2, 2014 Tyson aka Peter on posts #2 & #90 said it all and reading between the lines would have held on. Perhaps we should be getting him back on board. peter would have held them as done a very good job with the fed birds. then again he might have had a numpty telling him to put them up would not be the 1st time.
Guest Hey Presto Posted July 2, 2014 Report Posted July 2, 2014 I see we have a good turn out of controllers for next year boys all the best make a good job of it
clockman Posted July 2, 2014 Report Posted July 2, 2014 peter would have held them as done a very good job with the fed birds. then again he might have had a numpty telling him to put them up would not be the 1st time.Who was the numpty?
gulkie Posted July 2, 2014 Report Posted July 2, 2014 I agree with getting information on the line of flight no matter what it costs After all what has it cost in the terms of birds lost ,and it should defo be more Than one person saying if the birds should go or not.im laying the blame at no ones door I'm sure there was more than one person involved as we are Told what the SNFC want us to know.
frank-123 Posted July 2, 2014 Report Posted July 2, 2014 Wullie I brought it up at the agm after the messac race where it was a real disaster with only 51 birds made it home. I put a letter in asking for an enquiry into the race. They held the enquiry but no lesson were learned from the enquiry apart from the race control team were cleared of getting it wrong.. They need professional weather forecast information which costs money. If the Snfc used this for channel races it might just help the guys who are controlling the race make a more informed decision. I wasn't having a go at Jim Hannah and Peter Calder who were in charge at the time but giving the guys a hand and provide them with up to date weather forecasts was my aim.
novo10 Posted July 2, 2014 Report Posted July 2, 2014 Naw John its no all about bad weather, its about bad CONTROLING!!!!A WILL PUT MY NAME FORWARD TO CONTROL THE PIGEONS COS A FKN BLIND MAN WOULDNT HAVE PUT THEM UP AND GOT OUR 2ND ONE THIS MORNING ONE MORE TO COME
Delboy Posted July 2, 2014 Report Posted July 2, 2014 A WILL PUT MY NAME FORWARD TO CONTROL THE PIGEONS COS A FKN BLIND MAN WOULDNT HAVE PUT THEM UP AND GOT OUR 2ND ONE THIS MORNING ONE MORE TO COME Ill 2nd ye lol
Roland Posted July 2, 2014 Report Posted July 2, 2014 Tell you what, ask any and every one if they would willing pay a £1 each season to employ a professional weather concern! I'd bet 3 three scenario's would happen. 'Of course....' they'd harp 'with pleasure' would be the first one. Second would imply 'What a £1 a season! I'd pay that for ever race ... indeed a £5 would be well worth it and money well spent'! Thirdly if the SNFC and ALL concerns put the fees up a couple of quid per season to cover costs, let alone a week or per bird, then the out cry and moaning would be deafening. All sorts of scenarios of what should or shouldn't be would rage on. In deed some would leave the sport using it as an excuse saying 'Getting too dear now, gone stupid, they want paying for any and every thing and - wait for it - do nothing'! Sorry but true. Of course an independent weather body should have a say, paid or not! Struwth we spend a fortune on birds, feed training etc. and MOAN about any and every thing if it don't suit or goes wrong.
dal2 Posted July 2, 2014 Report Posted July 2, 2014 A WILL PUT MY NAME FORWARD TO CONTROL THE PIGEONS COS A FKN BLIND MAN WOULDNT HAVE PUT THEM UP AND GOT OUR 2ND ONE THIS MORNING ONE MORE TO COMEYou got the job mate
Guest chad3646 Posted July 2, 2014 Report Posted July 2, 2014 Tell you what, ask any and every one if they would willing pay a £1 each season to employ a professional weather concern! I'd bet 3 three scenario's would happen. 'Of course....' they'd harp 'with pleasure' would be the first one. Second would imply 'What a £1 a season! I'd pay that for ever race ... indeed a £5 would be well worth it and money well spent'! Thirdly if the SNFC and ALL concerns put the fees up a couple of quid per season to cover costs, let alone a week or per bird, then the out cry and moaning would be deafening. All sorts of scenarios of what should or shouldn't be would rage on. In deed some would leave the sport using it as an excuse saying 'Getting too dear now, gone stupid, they want paying for any and every thing and - wait for it - do nothing'! Sorry but true. Of course an independent weather body should have a say, paid or not! Struwth we spend a fortune on birds, feed training etc. and MOAN about any and every thing if it don't suit or goes wrong.roland all the modern technology cant get it right so what can one dooooo
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