Young Bird Sickness

[kingziemckay]

your views,can you prevent your birds from getting it?

[Delboy]

No, if you could prevent it then it would have been prevented by everyone by now. Ive heard all the cures etc and every single one doesn't hold water. If we knew what caused the virus then we could sort it but its a guessing game. YBS is a salesmans dream as the money that is spent to try and cure it has been unbelievable. The poor doomans wallet suffers again!!

[philg50]

IMO no, how it happens don't know ,is it air borne viral ,bacteria,god knows i think vaccination in its self has something to do with it affecting youngsters through the parents .

[geordie1234]

no

[Wiley]

Ive had young bird sickness every year for a number of years....but this year i had no young bird sickness, i thought i had done nothing different then any other year, but it wasnt untill looking in my diary after having a conversation with your father that i had done something that Bert Brasspening adviced in his articles and i treated them for paratyphus with a Van Der Sluis product...and it was the only thing i could say was different to all the other years.

[Tony C]

Give them a stress free life................ perhaps.

[Delboy]

Ive had young bird sickness every year for a number of years....but this year i had no young bird sickness, i thought i had done nothing different then any other year, but it wasnt untill looking in my diary after having a conversation with your father that i had done something that Bert Brasspening adviced in his articles and i treated them for paratyphus with a Van Der Sluis product...and it was the only thing i could say was different to all the other years.

 

You ve just got everyone clambering for Dr Sluis products Ryan lol. I too have had it every year for many years and this year only 1 yb showed a bit of it so maybe its just been a mild year of it?

 

Give them a stress free life................ perhaps.

 

A lot of truth in that Tony.Funny how latebreds don't take YBS??

[greenbar]

air borne as far as I am concerned.the cleanest lofts will catch it,

[Novice]

I'm more than certain that it was transmitted initially via the transporter. Now I would suggest that many of the birds we own now carry the virus and can transmit it to youngsters. Youngsters are very prone to pick up disease when their immune system is changing at about 5-6 months old.

I feel that it will be less severe in lofts where the birds are carrying very few bacteria when the disease virus strikes.

[Roland]

No, if you could prevent it then it would have been prevented by everyone by now. Ive heard all the cures etc and every single one doesn't hold water. If we knew what caused the virus then we could sort it but its a guessing game. YBS is a salesmans dream as the money that is spent to try and cure it has been unbelievable. The poor doomans wallet suffers again!!

 

So says you. Not actual, let alone factual. OK you have strong beliefs in this regards.... But that matters not a jot.

You are like 80% of those that have had it ... Hence EVERYONE ELSE MUST HAVE. Rubbish! Think you, and those of like your' opinion should spend the time and effort in trying to find out WHY you and co have, and Me and many more haven't.

I know, you feel / has been said such as 'Not believed'. But that doesn't make your opinion gain, let alone bare any weight.

If stress... then give them a stress free life. Maybe it is but doing what is UNNATURAL and Forced that is the problem.

[Delboy]

So says you. Not actual, let alone factual. OK you have strong beliefs in this regards.... But that matters not a jot.

You are like 80% of those that have had it ... Hence EVERYONE ELSE MUST HAVE.

 

Whether you've had YBS is not a reflection of how good a fancier you are. In fact, I would question anybodys observation skills if they say they've never had it lol.

[tommy bhoys]

air borne as far as I am concerned.the cleanest lofts will catch it,

 

would agree with this as i know a guy who never races birds and the only time they are out is in his large pens and he gets it some years :animatedpigeons:

[aye ready]

i find it odd that in the past i was often asked by fanciers that had never had YBS what i gave them to treat it or secondary infections associated with it

[yeboah]

First got it about 10 years ago from youngsters brought in then had it next 3

Then gave them colostrum the first milk from the mother to the young calf when the youngsters were being reared and a few weeks after being spained ,and never had it the 4 when using colostrum

Stopped using it and it returned but in a milder form

At first signs now withdraw food for a full 48 hours and treat water with salmonella paratyphus product

Problem solved

There is a member of our club never had it fact ,his birds race so that blows a lot of theories out o the water lol

Why did I stop using colostrum. Laziness

[Guest johnhunter]

So says you. Not actual, let alone factual. OK you have strong beliefs in this regards.... But that matters not a jot.

You are like 80% of those that have had it ... Hence EVERYONE ELSE MUST HAVE. Rubbish! Think you, and those of like your' opinion should spend the time and effort in trying to find out WHY you and co have, and Me and many more haven't.

I know, you feel / has been said such as 'Not believed'. But that doesn't make your opinion gain, let alone bare any weight.

If stress... then give them a stress free life. Maybe it is but doing what is UNNATURAL and Forced that is the problem.

roland how would you go about giving a pigeon a stress free life ?

[We man]

your views,can you prevent your birds from getting it?

Simple,Dont race them it works for me anyway.

[dal2]

I have had it loads.....last year managed to avoid it but did the same thing as usual. I swap conditioners sometimes (one year Johnsons next year something diffo on the same lines) but can't say that makes a difference. We just take it in our stride now and as long as your paying attention then it has little impact. The worst you miss a race or two.

[eastcoaster]

Two club mates and myself had for three years but not this year , all we done was put versa laga granules down and never cleaned them out all season so will do same next season , but I agree I think we have all had it but maybe got lucky and only get a light effect .

Only one of us was on darkness.

[kingziemckay]

in my view it can be prevented,as the same fanciers,year in year out

never get it or have had it,i have seen it with my own eyes!!there not just lucky!!!there birds are in the race basket every week,

and training in with other fanciers birds,and still avoid it!!

when other fanciers have stoped training,and racing due to ybs,

[Delboy]

in my view it can be prevented,as the same fanciers,year in year out

never get it or have had it,i have seen it with my own eyes!!there not just lucky!!!there birds are in the race basket every week,

and training in with other fanciers birds,and still avoid it!!

when other fanciers have stoped training,and racing due to ybs,

 

Ive never had it during the yb season so I could tell anyone Ive never had it, if I wanted !!Maybe these fanciers you are talking about get it early on in the year, do they breed early m8?

[kingziemckay]

some breed in december some later,there free from it,in all obs,and,ybs

never had it once!!

[William Reid]

Have posted this a few times on other threads about YBS . Like everything our pigeons get infected with there is always stages . Could somebody with this repeated illness please post what they first experience with the young birds and what it's like when totally taken control of the pigeon.

[geordie1234]

Have posted this a few times on other threads about YBS . Like everything our pigeons get infected with there is always stages . Could somebody with this repeated illness please post what they first experience with the young birds and what it's like when totally taken control of the pigeon.

IMO the first stage that I have seen is the loft starts to get a lot quieter...

[Ian McKay]

IMO the first stage that I have seen is the loft starts to get a lot quieter...

 

 

That makes sense to me very good George

[Roland]

John firstly on this subject, WE all know when some one get Y/B. Yet never mention or notice of course those that don't. I'd wager many can point to such fanciers. Indeed say 'HE never seems to get ailments, let alone y/b'. I often wonder how races are completed in when listening to the balaffa of y/b.

Why is it then some often have, and others never! Oh I know, they are fibbing...

To say ALL have had it is an insult of the highest order. Uncouth and bounds in ignorance.

As you ask on this domain John I will answer on here. Stress free! I know many that are often in the loft. They walk very slow and deliberate. Nigh all play up to him. He talks in a low voice and strokes, makes a fuss of them, even youngsters in the nest. Always has a tib - bit in their' pocket.

Any and every care is taken not to startle them. He never snatches at them when catching them etc.

Pigeons that will sun bathe in the garden and you have to step over them. They come TO HIM when called - especially to a woman's voice.

Incest breeding has so very many detrimental faults too to answer for... It weakens their constitution galore. In nature it never happens. It weakens much and has dire effects... Oh I know he and so and so do it ... Yes maybe, but never to race. Only for breeding purposes and then ALWAYS an out cross.... Vitality!

 

I do much of above except constantly handling them... Certainly not without a cause. Mine totally do as and when they like. From going in and out of the loft to enticed to pick around the garden. Flapping about roof hopping. Great shows in an instant any dire effects... and also state of mind and fitness, condition. No never have a problem trapping. They have a warm, dry safety in the loft which they quickly learn to fly to is so feeling a need. I leave a couple of handfuls every other day of garden lime overnight in the drinkers... Again a gap around the lid to allow the choline to dispense.

I. with the wife will sit out sunbathing and throw the odd tib - bit to them. Young and old alike will peck around the feet and on the seat etc.

Makes one think when all the thoughts say that they just don't know what causes it. The say it is Air borne etc. and one can't do oat....

I usually mate up in April... have late bred most years.

Admitted I may only have a couple or so of y/b races now... Lost interest and poor health.

So I believe out crossing for vitality and forget incest breeding - unless one understands it. (But then that is another topic). Treat them like mates, loved ones.

Had a mate, a very knowledgeable and great flyer that always has chipping, small (Gold) around the nest box. Said 'They love picking through that ... Keeps them calm and content... He never had y/b either.

Indeed thinking on my clubs... far more haven't I guess than do.