East Winds

[kapri 07]

East winds is this the main cause thatthe weekend racing was absolutely rubbish .with birds returning looking like they have flown 1000 mile surly if it is then why do we liberate or basket even ...any suggestions to why racing was poor is welcome

[Mattydoos79]

It was a disaster for me I’m still waiting on 3 from 6 sent and my first bird arrived 10 hours after lib and last one at 20.40pm!!! If there’s another north east wind etc I’m not racing on that forecast and I only half of team left

[BLACK W F]

they have all been blow homes they get a north east wind and they don't seem to take it we had a perfect forecast and in my opinion nothing to stop them maybe the east wind brought mist in across the forth or maybe they just went west who knows but I do know one thing our race controller had done his home work its just the way it goes

[Woodsider]

Personally I don't think it was all down to the east wind. I think the electrocal storms they were experiencing down south was a major factor for the heavy losses.

[greenbar]

Must agree with you woodsider.

[walterboswell59]

its been the same since pigeon racing began pigeons just dont like east winds and many cant handle it the losses would have been much worse if we had been racing the middle route i just cant get my head around why my own fed libbed at the same time as one of the farthest westerly flying clubs in the country in an east wind mental imo an east wind is a tail wind to these birds and with the wind already pushing our birds over to the west many birds will choose to follow these birds instead of turning to face it maybe there was a reason for it i dont know but i hope to fined out on tuesday night at our fed meeting

ps many birds will not home now till the wind turns back to the west and will be flown out

[geordie1234]

its been the same since pigeon racing began pigeons just dont like east winds and many cant handle it the losses would have been much worse if we had been racing the middle route i just cant get my head around why my own fed libbed at the same time as one of the farthest westerly flying clubs in the country in an east wind mental imo an east wind is a tail wind to these birds and with the wind already pushing our birds over to the west many birds will choose to follow these birds instead of turning to face it maybe there was a reason for it i dont know but i hope to fined out on tuesday night at our fed meeting

ps many birds will not home now till the wind turns back to the west and will be flown out

 

We went and they went up instantly...think they only had 6 baskets

 

Also note that prob half those 6 baskets were Glasgow pigeons

Edited May 28, 2018 by geordie1234

[dal2]

Here's hoping for an east wind next week.....might be a holdover tho

[moscow master]

See no difference to be honest I personally don't complain when it's a strong west wind an mine have to battle to get home which is most weeks one east wind and we're wanting to keep them in the loft oh dear can't have them getting blown through your trap every week

[kapri 07]

Thanks for your thoughts on the matter but personally if we no by experience in years gone by that these flying conditions = disaster where birds are flown out and take weeks to recover before they even see a training basket let alone a race basket .why do we not do the most sensible thing and think of the pigeons and cancel ....as I'm sure most guys would rather miss a weekend than nurse there pigeons back to fitness which may take weeks

[Novice]

Thanks for your thoughts on the matter but personally if we no by experience in years gone by that these flying conditions = disaster where birds are flown out and take weeks to recover before they even see a training basket let alone a race basket .why do we not do the most sensible thing and think of the pigeons and cancel ....as I'm sure most guys would rather miss a weekend than nurse there pigeons back to fitness which may take weeks

I am certain that the erratic returns were more due to the static in the atmosphere than to the easterly winds especially for pigeons flying from east to west.

A race controller couldn’t justify cancelling a race as he felt there was going to be static in the atmosphere. That decision is the fanciers to take.

That was an interesting post from Geordie 1234 regarding a “joint liberationâ€

[blue lad]

Not fit for man nor beast . And still holds waterto this day.As regards this weekend's racing!!

expletive remove you wouldn't tain in fog or East winds !Though everyone knew that ?

[robbiedoo.]

they have all been blow homes they get a north east wind and they don't seem to take it we had a perfect forecast and in my opinion nothing to stop them maybe the east wind brought mist in across the forth or maybe they just went west who knows but I do know one thing our race controller had done his home work its just the way it goes

 

Its a strange game I dropped 8 last week and was pig sick especially when others had good returns. This week at Sedgefield I send 17 and got 16 only losing 1 when some others had half there teams missing for me we all have a bad race during the season hopefully mine was last week and the guys that had bad returns this weekend it might be there bad 1 out of the road.

 

I am certain that the erratic returns were more due to the static in the atmosphere than to the easterly winds especially for pigeons flying from east to west.

A race controller couldn’t justify cancelling a race as he felt there was going to be static in the atmosphere. That decision is the fanciers to take.

That was an interesting post from Geordie 1234 regarding a “joint liberationâ€

 

I was told the K index is high for this coming weekend aswell.

[jakie]

Thanks for your thoughts on the matter but personally if we no by experience in years gone by that these flying conditions = disaster where birds are flown out and take weeks to recover before they even see a training basket let alone a race basket .why do we not do the most sensible thing and think of the pigeons and cancel ....as I'm sure most guys would rather miss a weekend than nurse there pigeons back to fitness which may take weeks

because the pigeons that race in it are the birds you want in your loft

[Novice]

Its a strange game I dropped 8 last week and was pig sick especially when others had good returns. This week at Sedgefield I send 17 and got 16 only losing 1 when some others had half there teams missing for me we all have a bad race during the season hopefully mine was last week and the guys that had bad returns this weekend it might be there bad 1 out of the road.

 

 

 

I was told the K index is high for this coming weekend aswell.

Thanks for that Robbie. Any further information as the weekend approaches would be useful. Since your post I have been trying to read up on the subject but I feel it’s very heavy going.

[andy Burgess]

Thanks for that Robbie. Any further information as the weekend approaches would be useful. Since your post I have been trying to read up on the subject but I feel it’s very heavy going.

 

 

http://www.skystef.be/calculator-k-index.htm

 

heres a link Robert , there are many , but this may provide a guide . good luck.

[moscow master]

So if it's blawin a hoolie out the west do we cancel as well? Always doos on time regardless of the wind you live in Scotland can't have perfect conditions every week

[Novice]

http://www.skystef.be/calculator-k-index.htm

 

heres a link Robert , there are many , but this may provide a guide . good luck.

 

Thanks Andy. I’m still on the case, at least when I can get online as my grandchildren are here.

I’m reading up on some background just now.

It’s confusing because some sources speak about K index as a thunderstorm predictor and some as a guide to solar flare activity.

I know that the met office will provide specialised weather reports which are chargeable. That’s a road we should have gone down years ago.

[andy Burgess]

Thanks Andy. I’m still on the case, at least when I can get online as my grandchildren are here.

I’m reading up on some background just now.

It’s confusing because some sources speak about K index as a thunderstorm predictor and some as a guide to solar flare activity.

I know that the met office will provide specialised weather reports which are chargeable. That’s a road we should have gone down years ago.

 

i didnt take to it , always got a good few pigeons home , yes there were some losses . yet my question was always why did some make it ,,, and some not ?? i could never "see" as to why that was the case . Bilco and I argued about it a few times . couldnt see eye to eye on it tho.

[walterboswell59]

See no difference to be honest I personally don't complain when it's a strong west wind an mine have to battle to get home which is most weeks one east wind and we're wanting to keep them in the loft oh dear can't have them getting blown through your trap every week

but if its a strong west wind would you lib with the east section birds if you did not have to and make it even harder for your birds to break is my point and i sit in the middle so no wind is easy i win more than my fare share of east wind races so i have no complaint about the east wind

[geordie1234]

Wasn't great racing all over

Edited May 28, 2018 by geordie1234

[yeboah]

I tossed my yearlings sunday from 25 mls

Up in groups of sixes at ten minute intervals

visibility you could see 100 mls

wind fresh ne

all groups headed directly north for home never circled

Julie got one group home intact all others were 1s and 2s all day

Now could it be k factor ??

OR Perhaps the east in the wind ??

However I do know 3 have no tails 2 have no wing feathers

So i'll stick to my theory getting the sh--t scared out of them factor

[border terrier lofts]

I'll stick to the same theory as you mick, birds aren't getting a chance, theyr'e been chased all over the sky , many never to make home pigeon game's turning into a lottery,out own birds are now locked up been attacked on a daily bases, the future doesn't look good.

[Roland]

no good for man or best is the wind coming from the East. electrical too. When the birds - like Seagulls are 'Milling mine stay in... the gnats rise and so do birds to eat them. Electrical follows with rain and lightening most likely. This help fertilise the ground... Mine always stay in the loft in such cases. J.M.O. One thing foe sure Sometime it is out of our hands, and 'Race Controllers' etc. won't ever please more than 60%. So if mine are in fine fettle and RACE fit they may well be in a transporter. I can't control them happenings. I can and do look in the mirror though. Yes often I haven't liked what I saw.

[Delboy]

Sent 32 to Retford, had 20 on shift, 7 next day. Still 5 amiss, I should know better, east winds are a lottery and theirs alot of good birds lost in them. I canny help myself sending them though