Y/b's Sickness Started

[tommy bhoys]

Am realising where am going wrong Geordie it's simple just make sure your lofts knee deep in sh ite the drinkers are green with algae and mice Pi sh on the chuck fire them straight in the race basket there you go winners galore am trying this next year 😂😂you up for it

a visit fae the enviromental health is needed for some lofts

[cemetary]

a visit fae the enviromental health is needed for some lofts

 

 

They will only advice and send you to a vet of there choice,

[peter pandy]

Would I be wrong to presume that some "fanciers" blind treat their Birds with Baytril etc, before pairing up ?. The result being the young are bred with no immune system nor immunity being passed on in the parent birds milk. Now that is ok as long as the youngsters are not mixing with others and in a separate section BUT once mixed either in training or race panniers with others.. BANG..You have just pulled the loaded gun's trigger. OMO..

[dal2]

Would I be wrong to presume that some "fanciers" blind treat their Birds with Baytril etc, before pairing up ?. The result being the young are bred with no immune system nor immunity being passed on in the parent birds milk. Now that is ok as long as the youngsters are not mixing with others and in a separate section BUT once mixed either in training or race panniers with others.. BANG..You have just pulled the loaded gun's trigger. OMO..

No.....naebody in their right mind

[peter pandy]

No.....naebody in their right mind

You want a bet on that..

[aye ready]

Would I be wrong to presume that some "fanciers" blind treat their Birds with Baytril etc, before pairing up ?. The result being the young are bred with no immune system nor immunity being passed on in the parent birds milk. Now that is ok as long as the youngsters are not mixing with others and in a separate section BUT once mixed either in training or race panniers with others.. BANG..You have just pulled the loaded gun's trigger. OMO..

Never heard of onybody doing this Peter and I've been about a while but forgetting the baytril what's the etc

[Ian McKay]

Never heard of onybody doing this Peter and I've been about a while but forgetting the baytril what's the etc

 

 

 

Yup Treat for 10 days before a certain injection :emoticon-0179-headbang:

[peter pandy]

Never heard of onybody doing this Peter and I've been about a while but forgetting the baytril what's the etc

Any other such as Vircon'S Martin, Local foodstore was flogging it willy nilly.

[aye ready]

Yup Treat for 10 days before a certain injection :emoticon-0179-headbang:

Yes your right Ian never looked into this but surely they would carry this out long before pairing

[Wiley]

Yes your right Ian never looked into this but surely they would carry this out long before pairing

 

If you was to do this treatment inject and then pair you would have many infertile eggs. They must have a minimum of 4 weeks!

 

I personally do not inject for paratyphoid, however i do treat for it once a year, and i rotate the products i use.

 

As i told Ian McKay in his survey, the last two years ive had no young bird sickness, while prior i was plagued every year after the first race, and the only thing i had done different the last two years was treat my young birds a week after weaning for paratyphus as adviced by vetinery.

[Delboy]

Ive done the same procedure as you and still got it Ryan, the last couple of seasons ye wouldn't know it was there because it was that mild, BUT IT STILL WAS THERE!!

[andy Burgess]

Ive done the same procedure as you and still got it Ryan, the last couple of seasons ye wouldn't know it was there because it was that mild, BUT IT STILL WAS THERE!!

 

what were the signs to look for Del, if " ye wouldn,t know it was there because it was that mild, BUT IT STILL WAS THERE !!."

[Delboy]

what were the signs to look for Del, if " ye wouldn,t know it was there because it was that mild, BUT IT STILL WAS THERE !!."

 

I've seen them fly well around the loft everyday, droppings good, no food retention or vomiting and birds feathering tight but still have a touch of YBS...If they fail to trap with the speed as they usually do and look at you with a slight glare in their eye, Generally the birds aren't switched on, well this is YBS in its mild form and can be missed by most fanciers.How to eradicate it,and never get this. Well , that's the million dollar question..

[andy Burgess]

I've seen them fly well around the loft everyday, droppings good, no food retention or vomiting and birds feathering tight but still have a touch of YBS...If they fail to trap with the speed as they usually do and look at you with a slight glare in their eye, Generally the birds aren't switched on, well this is YBS in its mild form and can be missed by most fanciers.How to eradicate it,and never get this. Well , that's the million dollar question..

 

thanks for the reply pal.

[DJWa]

If you was to do this treatment inject and then pair you would have many infertile eggs. They must have a minimum of 4 weeks!

 

I personally do not inject for paratyphoid, however i do treat for it once a year, and i rotate the products i use.

 

As i told Ian McKay in his survey, the last two years ive had no young bird sickness, while prior i was plagued every year after the first race, and the only thing i had done different the last two years was treat my young birds a week after weaning for paratyphus as adviced by vetinery.

 

 

 

this year is the 1st year ive had ybs , after the 2nd y/b race it appeared

and this is the 1st year in over 13 years ive not treated for paratyphus

[JohnQuinn]

Am realising where am going wrong Geordie it's simple just make sure your lofts knee deep in sh ite the drinkers are green with algae and mice Pi sh on the chuck fire them straight in the race basket there you go winners galore am trying this next year 😂😂you up for it

 

Aye and turn doos oot like this tae score fae the Gold Cup.... put a pic of your timer 😩😩😩😩😩

[moscow master]

Nice bird but it was still crossing the channel when the winner was clocked but each to their own don't forget my names on a snfc trophy John but the difference is I didn't come on here looking for pats on the back or telling everyone where their going wrong and guys are sh** fanciers but if that's what keeps you happy John batter in 👌

[JohnQuinn]

Aye you were on here looking and gettin pats on the back Ricky but it took Wee George tae gee credit tae the man that gave ye the stock tae breed yer winner. Anybody interested enough could dig the thread up. A credited DKJ & Brian Herd on Ma first post because Davie gifted me the dam and Brian sold me the Sire for next tae nothing and ye wirnae exactly complimenting the guys that timed in fae Reims this year, in fact not One compliment tae any member. So if that floats your boat carry on.

[moscow master]

Your infos wrong John the first doo man a foned was Jim Cullen to tell him his doos bred the winner that's a factðŸ‘

[JohnQuinn]

Post up something about the prevention of YBS or how ye manage it, that's whit the thread is for.

[Wiley]

I've seen them fly well around the loft everyday, droppings good, no food retention or vomiting and birds feathering tight but still have a touch of YBS...If they fail to trap with the speed as they usually do and look at you with a slight glare in their eye, Generally the birds aren't switched on, well this is YBS in its mild form and can be missed by most fanciers.How to eradicate it,and never get this. Well , that's the million dollar question..

 

Del, im being 100% honest here, the first signs i look for in ybs is the youngsters go dumb, they dont listen, when i stated that i had none in two years hand on heart it is the truth.

[Delboy]

Del, im being 100% honest here, the first signs i look for in ybs is the youngsters go dumb, they dont listen, when i stated that i had none in two years hand on heart it is the truth.

 

I believe you Ryan, im just stating my own personal findings. I cannot believe folk that say they have never had it, for me they are not observing enough. Imagine a class of school children and never one taking a virus, its almost impossible. I spoke to a guy the other day and he said he d never had YBS, but every year culls any that go back ahahhaha. nuff said.

Edited October 1, 2016 by Delboy

[Valiant Fifer]

I think yer spot on del. Either fanciers are not observant enough or they just wont admit it.

A lot think that their own craws are the whitest and nothing can possibly be wrong with thum. Worse than that some burry their head in the sand!

[Delboy]

I think yer spot on del. Either fanciers are not observant enough or they just wont admit it.

A lot think that their own craws are the whitest and nothing can possibly be wrong with thum. Worse than that some burry their head in the sand!

 

just ignorance m8

[aye ready]

just ignorance m8

Losses in young bird racing says it all tae me del mine had it mild this year as well but I'm clued up enough tae spot it but till their back flying well enough at the lofts they don't go in a basket in fact this year they only got one race and then when I felt they were fit and healthy enough they were trained numerous times out of Dunbar be interesting to see how they do as yearlings if and all is ok then I wouldn't hesitate stopping young bird racing again and just privately train them