clockman Posted April 6, 2016 Report Posted April 6, 2016 Of course. .....two or three days Time enough to bring the loft back from the Solway.
dal2 Posted April 6, 2016 Report Posted April 6, 2016 Time enough to bring the loft back from the Solway.Or to try and make a life ring yersel lol
scott mca Posted April 6, 2016 Report Posted April 6, 2016 Scott, I think when the RPRA say a closed loft they are referring to anything outside of bob wires, your traps are an entrance to a trap and if you time before bobs they are not trapped, I think the Welsh wording on this is much the better regarding fairness to those on clocks Changed to bob wires to front
billt Posted April 6, 2016 Report Posted April 6, 2016 Changed to bob wires to front Well done Scott, No one could fault that setup
hotrod Posted April 6, 2016 Report Posted April 6, 2016 John mines was put on base of Sputnik , if I put it under the board then the birds aren't inside the loft when clocked ,but mines is legal 100% ,not sure about others . I can sleep at night
cemetary Posted April 6, 2016 Report Posted April 6, 2016 Not much pics shown on here what people have in place, it would be nice to see something different though.
dal2 Posted April 6, 2016 Report Posted April 6, 2016 Not much pics shown on here what people have in place, it would be nice to see something different though. I can put up a picture of my floor Doug but its a bit boring mate lol
cemetary Posted April 6, 2016 Report Posted April 6, 2016 I can put up a picture of my floor Doug but its a bit boring mate lol That would be better than yir mush, :emoticon-0136-giggle: Joking aside, a lot of posts but not much pics,
dal2 Posted April 6, 2016 Report Posted April 6, 2016 That would be better than yir mush, :emoticon-0136-giggle: Joking aside, a lot of posts but not much pics, That's cos naebody can agree Wots in Wots oot......Wots a loft and Wots a trap on a loft.....Wots a corridor....is it in or oot.......is it confined or can it get back oot??????? Madness.
cemetary Posted April 6, 2016 Report Posted April 6, 2016 That's cos naebody can agree Wots in Wots oot......Wots a loft and Wots a trap on a loft.....Wots a corridor....is it in or oot.......is it confined or can it get back oot??????? Madness. That's only the doo men that carry on like this,
ALF Posted April 6, 2016 Report Posted April 6, 2016 That's cos naebody can agree Wots in Wots oot......Wots a loft and Wots a trap on a loft.....Wots a corridor....is it in or oot.......is it confined or can it get back oot??????? Madness.Stevie that's why I phoned the SHU office today to try and clarify the situation re sputniks pad under the floor of the sputnik is fine as doo is basically in the loft anyway but after the Petron trap being questioned we will be putting the pad under the bit of 3/4 ply at least 12in inside the trap better being safe than sorry with it but to be honest I never gave it a minutes thought it could be illegal as if the doo isnae there it cannae be timed anyway
dal2 Posted April 6, 2016 Report Posted April 6, 2016 Stevie that's why I phoned the SHU office today to try and clarify the situation re sputniks pad under the floor of the sputnik is fine as doo is basically in the loft anyway but after the Petron trap being questioned we will be putting the pad under the bit of 3/4 ply at least 12in inside the trap better being safe than sorry with it but to be honest I never gave it a minutes thought it could be illegal as if the doo isnae there it cannae be timed anywaySensible thing to do mate
Big Davie Posted April 6, 2016 Author Report Posted April 6, 2016 Davie when I first started in the pigeon game yir self and a few other guys in the Blantyre club used to leave my jaw dropped with the knowledge all you old guys had . To cut a long story short I have two ets systems at my loft . I have two Sputnik traps with pads underneath the landing board which only record on the one system as trainers. And one customised trap which the race birds and the other ets system has been raced marked . Why I hear you ask . Because I now work $hity shift and depend on family and friends to open the race trap . I cannot leave the trap open due to cats . Hence the two systems. Only wish that one day I can have one system used to its full potential. Again it's all down to trust Billy I might be missing the point here with me getting on a bit now, I'll auld guy ye ya cant don't think for a minute that you are doing anything dodgy but even though you have two separate systems, one for training and one for racing I think you would have a tough time explaining that and why you had pads fixed under the landing board of the Sputniks to some official, the way i see it, If you only wanted to use one system and you only wanted to time through the one customised race trap would it not only be a matter of moving the 2 pads inside the Sputniks , leaving these closed so nothing could enter, and then connect them to the race system with only the customised race trap being opened by your family to time arrivals while you were at work, this would mean you would only need one system instead of 2 and it would comply with the rules, or am I missing something and getting this wrong??
Big Davie Posted April 6, 2016 Author Report Posted April 6, 2016 Ets pads dinny make yer pigeons fly quicker..........mine is in a hole in the floor I can put up a picture of my floor Doug but its a bit boring mate lolStevie, yours is all legal then so long as yer doos can't be timed when they're running about the ground under the dookit
geordie1234 Posted April 6, 2016 Report Posted April 6, 2016 (edited) Thoughts on this trap legal or not? 4x4ft landing board..NOTE MY LANDING BOARD IS NOT MY PAD Ets pad within the loft bobs at the end of the pad??To me I am following the rules to the letter.. Edited April 6, 2016 by geordie1234
billt Posted April 6, 2016 Report Posted April 6, 2016 Thoughts on this trap legal or not? 4x4ft landing board..NOTE MY LANDING BOARD IS NOT MY PAD Ets pad within the loft bobs at the end of the pad??To me I am following the rules to the letter..From what I've seen of the Scottish rules that looks OK George, It wouldn't be OK here in Wales as the bobs would need to be before the timing took place
geordie1234 Posted April 6, 2016 Report Posted April 6, 2016 From what I've seen of the Scottish rules that looks OK George, It wouldn't be OK here in Wales as the bobs would need to be before the timing took placeYeah that's my thoughts.... really it's a 2 secs job to put the bobs at the front if I needed to
billt Posted April 6, 2016 Report Posted April 6, 2016 Yeah that's my thoughts.... really it's a 2 secs job to put the bobs at the front if I needed to Yes mate, It's a shame they can't get their wording right on these rules, I'm sure "Inside the loft" was aimed at people with pads under the landing board but as we say, they have to be home whatever
William Reid Posted April 6, 2016 Report Posted April 6, 2016 2 clocks is illegal Billy, for all anyone knows one of your systems could be at a loft in Annan and that's why only One clock is allowed. You'll no doubt be getting a visit now you have made this public. Let me be clear, not for one minute do I think you're up tae anything BUT you are in breach of the rules. Can anyone who has a pad under a Sputnik trap say WHY it's positioned there and NOT over the threshold of the loft.Not long in from work and playing catchup . And after your phone call to me yesterday tut tut.But on a more positive note a dookit in Annan I could possibly be second fed to the Mac,s :lol: :lol:
Harry0 Posted April 6, 2016 Report Posted April 6, 2016 Thoughts on this trap legal or not? 4x4ft landing board..NOTE MY LANDING BOARD IS NOT MY PAD Ets pad within the loft bobs at the end of the pad??To me I am following the rules to the letter..A man with a clock couldnt catch and time his bird until it went through those bob wires . The bird is not in your loft until it through the bob wires . If your bird sits out 20 mins it will still clock outside those bob wires . If a man using a clocks bird sits there 20 mins he cant clock it .
geordie1234 Posted April 6, 2016 Report Posted April 6, 2016 (edited) A man with a clock couldnt catch and time his bird until it went through those bob wires . The bird is not in your loft until it through the bob wires . If your bird sits out 20 mins it will still clock outside those bob wires . If a man using a clocks bird sits there 20 mins he cant clock it .I don't care about a man with a clock I care if I'm within the shu rules and I believe I am Jst like John Quinns pad and he don't have bobs at all.... Edited April 6, 2016 by geordie1234
William Reid Posted April 6, 2016 Report Posted April 6, 2016 A man with a clock couldnt catch and time his bird until it went through those bob wires . The bird is not in your loft until it through the bob wires . If your bird sits out 20 mins it will still clock outside those bob wires . If a man using a clocks bird sits there 20 mins he cant clock it .Good evening harry
Harry0 Posted April 6, 2016 Report Posted April 6, 2016 I don't care about a man with a clock I care if I'm within the shu rules and I believe I am Jst like John Quinns pad and he don't have bobs at all....Just like saying the stall traps outsiode the loft but the bird needs the needs to enter it to clock it . . You have only exstended your landing board towards inside of loft Imo as it is not open and has a boxed area all round it .
Guest johnhunter Posted April 6, 2016 Report Posted April 6, 2016 A man with a clock couldnt catch and time his bird until it went through those bob wires . The bird is not in your loft until it through the bob wires . If your bird sits out 20 mins it will still clock outside those bob wires . If a man using a clocks bird sits there 20 mins he cant clock it .now your talking
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