Lanarkshire Fed

[hotrod]

Are stranraer members not far enuff west to be in the west section or are they too far south??

Yes Steven IMHO too far south ,the way it is section F is prob the biggest in Britain ,from Stranraer to Oban . If this was the national flying club in England there would be at least two sections in that vast area .

[dal2]

Section f is made up of Ayrshire, Renfrewshire and Glasgow. That is the rules and yes I think they are south. See the rules about being 500 miles from rennet as per hotrods post. The bottom line is what I said above could happen.

They would be in sect f not the south. Why then would they nit be entitled to win the west section?

 

Very very difficult place to race pigeons with velocity consistently poor compared to the solway from the same lib.

 

Ye as Stuart says the rules need looked at. Outdated distances from a race point that hand been used for years.

[clockman]

They would be in sect f not the south. Why then would they nit be entitled to win the west section?

 

Very very difficult place to race pigeons with velocity consistently poor compared to the solway from the same lib.

 

Ye as Stuart says the rules need looked at. Outdated distances from a race point that hand been used for years.

 

ANYONE HAS till 1st November to put motions in.

[dal2]

You have till 1st November to put motions in.

 

You dinny want to know about my motions lol

[bullcock]

They would be in sect f not the south. Why then would they nit be entitled to win the west section?

 

Very very difficult place to race pigeons with velocity consistently poor compared to the solway from the same lib.

 

Ye as Stuart says the rules need looked at. Outdated distances from a race point that hand been used for years.

Either way something needs to change but I won't hold my breath

[DJWa]

Yes Steven IMHO too far south ,the way it is section F is prob the biggest in Britain ,from Stranraer to Oban . If this was the national flying club in England there would be at least two sections in that vast area .

 

look at section g from stonehaven upto Orkney,shetland etc

137 miles stonehaven to orkney south to north then right across the country east to west

 

all the other sections could fit into section g

[dal2]

Quite a distance from Newcastleton in the east of the solway to stranraer in the weat

[geordie1234]

Back on topic

 

I don't really like the kelso not because of the race point but the distance 67 to me I think is too short I'd have preferred to start at Appleby 107miles if Otterburn wasn't to be used

[bullcock]

Back on topic

 

I don't really like the kelso not because of the race point but the distance 67 to me I think is too short I'd have preferred to start at Appleby 107miles if Otterburn wasn't to be used

Penrith was always a good race point a bit shorter than Appleby I'm sure?

[Novice]

Back on topic

 

I don't really like the kelso not because of the race point but the distance 67 to me I think is too short I'd have preferred to start at Appleby 107miles if Otterburn wasn't to be used

Ayrshire federation experience is that they have normally had good racing from Appleby. My thinking is that it is just far enough to let the birds find a decent line before they meet the wall of Falcons. I believe the race point is close to the golf course and is well located. This would be an ideal first race for Lanarkshire.

[THE FIFER]

[hotrod]

Penrith was always a good race point a bit shorter than Appleby I'm sure?

Penrith was 114 miles to me and Appleby was 128 miles. Both were great race points , it was only once you got over the shap it went downhill returns wise .

[dal2]

Why kelso then Appleby? Are they not diffo lines?

[Novice]

Why kelso then Appleby? Are they not diffo lines?

Reading between the lines they are trying to avoid the Otterburn area. Then again you probably surmised that

[geordie1234]

I never had a prob at otterburn...actually thought it was our most consistent point

[VMS]

Arras and Peterborough appeal more. :emoticon-0167-beer:

[tyson]

I appreciate what Lanarkshire fed is trying to to do is get away from the Bermuda triangle you got a bad race racefrom Sedgefield we got the same that day from the same race point once we got past it we got good raceing the only problem I have with lanarkshires race program is kelso as when you are there you hold up all east flying feds as you will be crossing everybodys line of flight why not start at otterburn it causes less of a problem to other feds yous had good raceing out of otterburn why change it hope Lanarkshire remember they are not the only fed flying on a saturday

[kingbilly 1]

I appreciate what Lanarkshire fed is trying to to do is get away from the Bermuda triangle you got a bad race racefrom Sedgefield we got the same that day from the same race point once we got past it we got good raceing the only problem I have with lanarkshires race program is kelso as when you are there you hold up all east flying feds as you will be crossing everybodys line of flight why not start at otterburn it causes less of a problem to other feds yous had good raceing out of otterburn why change it hope Lanarkshire remember they are not the only fed flying on a saturday

Kelso should never. Be a race point for Lanarkshire its to short and I think wee have the first 2 old bird races there total wast of time for pigeons to have an over night out for 1hrs fly the next day total disgrace

[frank-123]

Can't believe you guys dropped Ypres the most successful race point for Lanarkshire members. If the amalgamation doesn't come off your going to struggle for birdage from Arras as a lot of lanarkshire doos will be at Ypres with the SNFC.

[eastcoaster]

Can't believe you guys dropped Ypres the most successful race point for Lanarkshire members. If the amalgamation doesn't come off your going to struggle for birdage from Arras as a lot of lanarkshire doos will be at Ypres with the SNFC.

[bullcock]

Penrith was 114 miles to me and Appleby was 128 miles. Both were great race points , it was only once you got over the shap it went downhill returns wise .

Your right Stuart, Lancashire area was always bad for returns, but once we got down to Stafford and the birds got a run at the Shap then the racing was good again, I wouldn't mind trying training to Abington then racing from Penrith, Appleby, Stafford, Stafford, Cheltham, Portsmouth, I know their is big jumps in here but we all know that the Solway area and Lancashire areas are grave yards.

[Novice]

Your right Stuart, Lancashire area was always bad for returns, but once we got down to Stafford and the birds got a run at the Shap then the racing was good again, I wouldn't mind trying training to Abington then racing from Penrith, Appleby, Stafford, Stafford, Cheltham, Portsmouth, I know their is big jumps in here but we all know that the Solway area and Lancashire areas are grave yards.

Quality pigeons such as you have will do the jumps no problem when fit. The problem lies with fanciers who are lesser pigeon men than you are who will have high losses and use their vote to return to a less ambitious programme.

We do, however , need some luck with early season temperatures.

[geordie1234]

Quality pigeons such as you have will do the jumps no problem when fit. The problem lies with fanciers who are lesser pigeon men than you are who will have high losses and use their vote to return to a less ambitious programme.

We do, however , need some luck with early season temperatures.

:emoticon-0137-clapping:

[bullcock]

Quality pigeons such as you have will do the jumps no problem when fit. The problem lies with fanciers who are lesser pigeon men than you are who will have high losses and use their vote to return to a less ambitious programme.

We do, however , need some luck with early season temperatures.

I'm sure a program like this will also have it's losses, but it will sort them out and the ones that are left will be the best ones (and all birds do need lady luck more so these days).

The main aim here is to get our birds up this side of the Pennines, we have had several birds reported from Nationals in Liverpool and North Wales, these birds have came home in the right direction but hit the Shap and unknown territory and try and find a way through but end up stuck there exhausted, IMO

[Novice]

I'm sure a program like this will also have it's losses, but it will sort them out and the ones that are left will be the best ones (and all birds do need lady luck more so these days).

The main aim here is to get our birds up this side of the Pennines, we have had several birds reported from Nationals in Liverpool and North Wales, these birds have came home in the right direction but hit the Shap and unknown territory and try and find a way through but end up stuck there exhausted, IMO

I agree. To have any chance of competing (being on the Open result) at Nationals the birds from the west need to come up the west side of the Pennines.

Unfortunately many fanciers are not interested in distance raving. They seem to think that it's acceptable to have very few pigeons left by the time they reach 200 miles. They are incapable of raising their game and are happy to wallow in self pity.