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I have been in this sport for one year after helping my dad finish his last season so I know nothing of the past or what this is all about really apart from what I have read on this site but imo I won't race with the snfc because it seems none of you could agree on the colour of sh#t Regardless of how this pans out you should all be aware by that I mean parties for and against of the image you are all painting for new fanciers and that is childish scrapping and name calling more suited to a school playground and nothing that I feel any new fancier would want to get involved in

You all think you want to do the best for this amazing sport but all you are doing is destroying it with petty differences GROW UP . SORT IT

 

Well said Frank. :)

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Where did the bird go?

Into some other basket, bird is rubbered, put in a basket and number called out, guy who is writing records wrong basket number against the bird, its easy to do with the noise generated in a marking station by all the great members who refuse to help but are quite willing to stand around blethering

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Yeah, lets all throw the rule books away and not bother about proper procedures. We could just get all the experts on here to say what's right or what's wrong!!

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If the officials and management committee of the SNFC were so expert and confident that they applying the constitution and rules of the club correctly then can you tell us why they had to seek legal advice from a solicitor to help them with this ?? or is it just you that knows all the rules ??

 

Just so you don't get the wrong idea, I also think the SNFC is the best club in the land and it is the driving force in why I keep and race doos, however that does not mean it's the best managed or run club in the land .

 

 

Firstly I personaly wouldn't try to say the officials and management committee were experts, nor would I think they believe so themselsves so these are your words. What they are though are unpaid SNFC members that are voted into the positions by the members at the AGM to run the club to the best of their abilities. If you think they're not up to the job then you have the opportunity to say so when they are getting elected!

 

Do I know all the rules?? Never claimed that I do but I do have the ability to read!!

 

 

Some of the guys on here these days make bigda look like he knew what he was talking about :animatedpigeons:

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Into some other basket, bird is rubbered, put in a basket and number called out, guy who is writing records wrong basket number against the bird, its easy to do with the noise generated in a marking station by all the great members who refuse to help but are quite willing to stand around blethering

Thats fine and could well be the case.

 

Why, if a simple clerical error was to blame, did Mr McCord make the statement on the social media decrying a marking station??

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What a stupid statement!!!

 

Don't know who you are naedoos, but it appears you should have called yourself naebrains!!!

 

Why would the particular rule that is being used by Committee be put in place other than to safeguard the Club from un-necessary expense?

 

The Club holds an AGM and by nature they take place annually, usually around the same time of year, thus the name AGM which stands for Annual (yearly) General Meeting. The rules normally state when this meeting should take place and the form of business to be discussed at such meeting. If members call for a Special General Meeting, this by its nature incurs an expense which would be an un-necessary expense if the matter in hand could be dealt with at the AGM, which was due to take place in a short time.

 

In this particular case, the AGM had already taken place. The matter under dispute was ruled on by the President to be out of order and therefore was not discussed. It appears the members did not agree with the President and enough of them signed the relevant petition to call the Special General Meeting to discuss the matter.

 

If the above scenario is correct, then the Committee are again attempting to deny the membership their rights by incorrectly using a rule.

 

If this is the case, then the Committee are attempting to "throw the rule book away" and as such they are ruling themselves out of order and showing a complete ineptitude with regards to the proper running of an organisation.

 

Some advice Mr Naedoos, disengage your typing finger and engage your brain. read what is being typed by others and at least make an attempt to understand it. If you are incapable of this, ask for further explanation. Most things are able to be simplified for those who require it. :)

 

 

 

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Convoyer finds a basket without a seal on the rear door, counts the birds in it and it is one short of what it should be and no label stating that this is the case. Birds in the basket re-rubbered and recorded, matter reported back to secretary. Investigation held by committee who decided it was a clerical error, ie wrong basket number recorded against the missing bird and no further action required. Why this requires an EGM is beyond me apart from the clash of two personalities.

What you have said is there is no label, so how does the convoyer there is one missing without contacting the secretary?!

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there is three sides to a story one sides interpitation of it , the other sides interpitation of it and the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth ,uunfortunatly we are not going to get the whole truth ,no direspect to either of the sides in it.but they will allways sway it in there favour .that said the commitee should have an egm to clear the air and stop it festering out of control to the deprement of the sport

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Thats fine and could well be the case.

 

Why, if a simple clerical error was to blame, did Mr McCord make the statement on the social media decrying a marking station??

100% correct it still looks to me that certain parties are out to destroy Mr Rankins good name a total disgrace But that's what happens and you tell the truth the guys that are against the chance of the truth coming out must have a big ??? Against them .one thing that always stuck in ma mind when I was a lot younger than I am now is when your onto someone and they know it they will do there best to fk you IMO

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What you have said is there is no label, so how does the convoyer there is one missing without contacting the secretary?!

Should be 20 birds in a basket, if not a label should be attached with the number of birds and also the the sex of the birds in the basket, ie Hens 17.

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Thats fine and could well be the case.

 

Why, if a simple clerical error was to blame, did Mr McCord make the statement on the social media decrying a marking station??

 

It's hard not to take sides, but what has happened since the original thread was put up has blown the thing out of all proportion. What was put down to human error at the time has now been turned into conspiracy theory - a vendetta against Gareth. In truth, he's the one with the vendetta, it is he who has issues with the Drivers, and was stupid enough to open his mouth to one of them about it – this was the reason for the McCord post about marking stations and Ypres. He said look at the marking stations rather than the Drivers.

 

I have personal knowledge of one the Driver’s cases. He had convoyed for 7 or 8 years for NW Fed and SNFC when he didn't even have pigeons. He joined a Fed 2/3 years ago for the first time, had some bother with his first year fees, and got debt suspended. One of the SNFC Committee members was also his Fed Official and took the matter up with them. It got sorted quick and the debt suspension was lifted which means any money he owed was paid.

 

When the man didn't have pigeons he was good enough to be Driver. He is one year in pigeons gets debt suspended, pays up and his suspension is lifted - does that justify him losing his driving job? Worse, he is not good enough to drive in Gareth's eyes. He set about destroying the man’s reputation for which he was given a final warning that if repeated he would be put out the Club. He repeated the same claims at the AGM and went on to further defame the Driver and Convoyer over the Ypres matter at the AGM, on here and in BHW.

 

What is happening now is that the SNFC reputation has been damaged (again) by those who purport to have it at heart.

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It's hard not to take sides, but what has happened since the original thread was put up has blown the thing out of all proportion. What was put down to human error at the time has now been turned into conspiracy theory - a vendetta against Gareth. In truth, he's the one with the vendetta, it is he who has issues with the Drivers, and was stupid enough to open his mouth to one of them about it – this was the reason for the McCord post about marking stations and Ypres. He said look at the marking stations rather than the Drivers.

 

I have personal knowledge of one the Driver’s cases. He had convoyed for 7 or 8 years for NW Fed and SNFC when he didn't even have pigeons. He joined a Fed 2/3 years ago for the first time, had some bother with his first year fees, and got debt suspended. One of the SNFC Committee members was also his Fed Official and took the matter up with them. It got sorted quick and the debt suspension was lifted which means any money he owed was paid.

 

When the man didn't have pigeons he was good enough to be Driver. He is one year in pigeons gets debt suspended, pays up and his suspension is lifted - does that justify him losing his driving job? Worse, he is not good enough to drive in Gareth's eyes. He set about destroying the man’s reputation for which he was given a final warning that if repeated he would be put out the Club. He repeated the same claims at the AGM and went on to further defame the Driver and Convoyer over the Ypres matter at the AGM, on here and in BHW.

 

What is happening now is that the SNFC reputation has been damaged (again) by those who purport to have it at heart.

well well the truth at last

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It's hard not to take sides, but what has happened since the original thread was put up has blown the thing out of all proportion. What was put down to human error at the time has now been turned into conspiracy theory - a vendetta against Gareth. In truth, he's the one with the vendetta, it is he who has issues with the Drivers, and was stupid enough to open his mouth to one of them about it – this was the reason for the McCord post about marking stations and Ypres. He said look at the marking stations rather than the Drivers.

 

I have personal knowledge of one the Driver’s cases. He had convoyed for 7 or 8 years for NW Fed and SNFC when he didn't even have pigeons. He joined a Fed 2/3 years ago for the first time, had some bother with his first year fees, and got debt suspended. One of the SNFC Committee members was also his Fed Official and took the matter up with them. It got sorted quick and the debt suspension was lifted which means any money he owed was paid.

 

When the man didn't have pigeons he was good enough to be Driver. He is one year in pigeons gets debt suspended, pays up and his suspension is lifted - does that justify him losing his driving job? Worse, he is not good enough to drive in Gareth's eyes. He set about destroying the man’s reputation for which he was given a final warning that if repeated he would be put out the Club. He repeated the same claims at the AGM and went on to further defame the Driver and Convoyer over the Ypres matter at the AGM, on here and in BHW.

 

What is happening now is that the SNFC reputation has been damaged (again) by those who purport to have it at heart.

Very good Ian. So we, the normal member outside the committee, have to watch a personal disagreement tarnish our club?

 

I think the president incumbent should stand down immediately. How can he be the steering influence that a president should be whilst carrying this baggage?

 

 

And to add

 

Why could an EGM not have aired this to a successful conclusion?

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The real reason this has blown out of proportion is the lack of information coming from the committee, a lot of members went to the AGM not knowing anything about the issues regarding the Ypres race, The committee investigation and outcome should have been on the agenda at the AGM and all members would be informed and could comment on this and at least we could all walk away with the facts.

But as it has all been kept under the radar as much as possible the members only have hearsay and gossip to play with, the committee are determined to avoid an EGM, why what would be the harm in having one? they even used the club funds to seek legal advise, it would have been easier to have an EGM and get this out in the open, but the committee are avoiding it like the plague, why????

This breeds supposition, hence the runaway train.

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ame='Big Davie' date='21 February 2015 - 23:08 PM' timestamp='1424560099' post='967725']

 

 

 

Firstly I personaly wouldn't try to say the officials and management committee were experts, nor would I think they believe so themselsves so these are your words. What they are though are unpaid SNFC members that are voted into the positions by the members at the AGM to run the club to the best of their abilities. If you think they're not up to the job then you have the opportunity to say so when they are getting elected!

 

Do I know all the rules?? Never claimed that I do but I do have the ability to read!!

 

 

Some of the guys on here these days make bigda look like he knew what he was talking about :animatedpigeons:

Just the type of response I would expect from you which says a lot about your character, shame on you for mocking Bigda when he has nothing to do with this, just remember the old saying " mockings catching " :emoticon-0123-party:

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