alec guinness Posted February 10, 2015 Report Posted February 10, 2015 Sorry John,no problems here. :animatedpigeons: Maybe not Vincent but i do think the snrpc go about there business in a proper manner and the SNFC could maybe learn some lessons!!
VMS Posted February 10, 2015 Report Posted February 10, 2015 have tried it not for me m8 theres only one snfc for me problems or no problems but everyone has there own opinion mines is they should both be together but looks like its a can of worms better left unopenedwhat were your results out ov interest in the years you were competing Walter from 500 miles
VMS Posted February 10, 2015 Report Posted February 10, 2015 Maybe not Vincent but i do think the snrpc go about there business in a proper manner and the SNFC could maybe learn some lessons!! dont have a souloution John but for the good of us all the fancy has to put there differences aside to progress .
walterboswell59 Posted February 10, 2015 Report Posted February 10, 2015 what were your results out ov interest in the years you were competing Walter from 500 milesonly went to the yb national vince and had to rubber my birds cause they did not allow ets at the time and like i said only 12 birds in race time and i had five from six in the clock but only two birds on result never went back
VMS Posted February 10, 2015 Report Posted February 10, 2015 only went to the yb national vince and had to rubber my birds cause they did not allow ets at the time and like i said only 12 birds in race time and i had five from six in the clock but only two birds on result never went backSo what were your results in the SNFC that year Walter in the distance races
walterboswell59 Posted February 10, 2015 Report Posted February 10, 2015 So what were your results in the SNFC that year Walter in the distance races dont think i sent to snfc for a few years vince had just brought in the aardens a few years before and was just building my team won the fed west section ave that year so must have been 2007 i think
Valiant Fifer Posted February 11, 2015 Report Posted February 11, 2015 Well guys its been an interesting read on this thread. Missed some of it tonight cause my daughter does a lot of studying for college so I can only get on at certain times. Gotta do what am told sometimes! I would deffo take on board all comments made on this thread as they all seem honest statements in one way or another. Getting back to the Prize list Scenario its fairly simple. For example 430 birds at say Reims means 43 Open prizes. 439 entries means 44 prizes. If ur not in the first 44 in this case then ur pigeon doesn't qualify for an Open Diploma. However u can still win a Section Prize Diploma in ur Section again working on the 1 in 10 Prizes allocation. Say there were 185 birds in ur sect that's 19 Section prizes even although there might have only been say 8 in ur Section in the first 44 in the Open. So that would leave 11 prizes still to won in ur sect. These other pigeons might finish say 48th, 58th 67th ,69th, and so on in the Open Result but will still qualify for a Section Diploma by virtue of the 1 in 10 allocation of prizes in ur Sect. I know most fanciers already know all the above but I typed all this out for anyone that doesn't, maybe Novices or Young Fanciers thinking of joining for these Nationals. Further as regards the SNRPC no disrespect to anyone incl New Starters or Novices. They might be entering these big National races for the first time and when they time in from these far off race points its a thrill they wont forget. Again no disrespect meant but more often than not they wont make the result their still learning. If they do finish on the result although not winning a Diploma, they are bound to be encouraged when they see their name on the result even if its only their first bird. It shows their not far away and keeps them interested for the next year and so on. A lot of times the Veteran fancier doesn't win a Diploma but if he sees his first bird home on the result at least that's a little bit consolation, and that's all it is. In this day and age more fanciers should think of it from the Novice or young fanciers point of view. The old saying - "A Little Bit Of Something Is Better Than A Big Bit Of Nothing" Sounds good to me. Think about it you know it makes sense. By the way other big Nationals in Britain have been doing this for many many years. Not every bird on their results wins a Certificate/Diploma and it doesn't do them any harm. Best regards Gentlemen :animatedpigeons: :animatedpigeons:
Valiant Fifer Posted February 11, 2015 Report Posted February 11, 2015 Forgot to say that Open and Section Prizes won in the SNRPC are won on the exact same Ratio as the SNFC. That's 1 in 10 in both Open and Section in both clubs. The SNRPC have a shorter Open Prize Winning list because of less birds entered. However being that as it is I hope Fanciers don't think its easy because make no mistake these birds have to work hard to get home to their lofts. Come to think of it the SNFC don't have big Convoys either these days {in channel races} compared to other Nationals, but that doesn't mean I don't rate the Fanciers and the top performances their birds put up every year. I know of other areas in the uk with lots more birds entered even at the distance but theres not many of them that I would go to if I wanted to buy birds of them because a lot of them just fly into one area. In Scotland their spread all over and I know the terrain. Its Quality not Quantity entered in Nationals the same as it is in each individual loft, you've all heard that said before. Am not interested in big numbers, most just following like sheep. They get lost a few hours up the road cause they havn't got it. Only a small percentage have what it takes! Followers eventually fall by the wayside, its Leaders we need. On that note I'll sign off this post with something for you to think about. That's one of the things sadly lacking in this sport PROPER LEADERSHIP!!! Lets sort it!
dal2 Posted February 11, 2015 Report Posted February 11, 2015 Was having a discussion with a mate about the snrpc and I asked him if he thought the current members of the club would be grateful for an influx of members from the south? Answer truthfully please as I will cast it up everywhere lol
hotrod Posted February 11, 2015 Report Posted February 11, 2015 Of course they would Steven 100% unless they have changed since I left the committee . Why would any club not want an influx of members ??
andy Burgess Posted February 11, 2015 Report Posted February 11, 2015 Well guys its been an interesting read on this thread. Missed some of it tonight cause my daughter does a lot of studying for college so I can only get on at certain times. Gotta do what am told sometimes! I would deffo take on board all comments made on this thread as they all seem honest statements in one way or another. Getting back to the Prize list Scenario its fairly simple. For example 430 birds at say Reims means 43 Open prizes. 439 entries means 44 prizes. If ur not in the first 44 in this case then ur pigeon doesn't qualify for an Open Diploma. However u can still win a Section Prize Diploma in ur Section again working on the 1 in 10 Prizes allocation. Say there were 185 birds in ur sect that's 19 Section prizes even although there might have only been say 8 in ur Section in the first 44 in the Open. So that would leave 11 prizes still to won in ur sect. These other pigeons might finish say 48th, 58th 67th ,69th, and so on in the Open Result but will still qualify for a Section Diploma by virtue of the 1 in 10 allocation of prizes in ur Sect. I know most fanciers already know all the above but I typed all this out for anyone that doesn't, maybe Novices or Young Fanciers thinking of joining for these Nationals. Further as regards the SNRPC no disrespect to anyone incl New Starters or Novices. They might be entering these big National races for the first time and when they time in from these far off race points its a thrill they wont forget. Again no disrespect meant but more often than not they wont make the result their still learning. If they do finish on the result although not winning a Diploma, they are bound to be encouraged when they see their name on the result even if its only their first bird. It shows their not far away and keeps them interested for the next year and so on. A lot of times the Veteran fancier doesn't win a Diploma but if he sees his first bird home on the result at least that's a little bit consolation, and that's all it is. In this day and age more fanciers should think of it from the Novice or young fanciers point of view. The old saying - "A Little Bit Of Something Is Better Than A Big Bit Of Nothing" Sounds good to me. Think about it you know it makes sense. By the way other big Nationals in Britain have been doing this for many many years. Not every bird on their results wins a Certificate/Diploma and it doesn't do them any harm. Best regards Gentlemen :animatedpigeons: :animatedpigeons: thats a great explanation for the novice
Dmurray Posted February 11, 2015 Report Posted February 11, 2015 Was having a discussion with a mate about the snrpc and I asked him if he thought the current members of the club would be grateful for an influx of members from the south? Answer truthfully please as I will cast it up everywhere lol Me personally would welcome it the more the merrier is my opinion
Andrew suckle Posted February 11, 2015 Report Posted February 11, 2015 Was having a discussion with a mate about the snrpc and I asked him if he thought the current members of the club would be grateful for an influx of members from the south? Answer truthfully please as I will cast it up everywhere lolwhy would they no be the more the merrier remember there were a few in it but left
blue pied Posted February 11, 2015 Report Posted February 11, 2015 Was having a discussion with a mate about the snrpc and I asked him if he thought the current members of the club would be grateful for an influx of members from the south? Answer truthfully please as I will cast it up everywhere lolSteven there was a marking station in the south (ran by Chris little?) and at the start some used to send but it dwindled away I believe and that's how the marking station isn't there anymore because no body sent, If there was enough members down there to have a marking station the SNRPC would gladly open one up.
dms5686 Posted February 11, 2015 Report Posted February 11, 2015 Steven there was a marking station in the south (ran by Chris little?) and at the start some used to send but it dwindled away I believe and that's how the marking station isn't there anymore because no body sent, If there was enough members down there to have a marking station the SNRPC would gladly open one up. Don't think the solway boys like midday liberations which has happened occasionally due to weather conditions in the SNRPC. If my memory serves me correctly Stuart Mullens national winner was a late liberation with a strong west wind and his was the most westerly loft a great case for midday liberations
VMS Posted February 11, 2015 Report Posted February 11, 2015 Chris Little had some fantastic results in the club,sure he won a couple of them.
hotrod Posted February 11, 2015 Report Posted February 11, 2015 Chris Little had some fantastic results in the club,sure he won a couple of them.I know he won at least one think it was chanoise (spelling) and won an RPRA award .And correct think it was a 12noon liberation in 2008 when my wee hen won .
Jumbo Posted February 11, 2015 Report Posted February 11, 2015 Chris won the SNRPC Cholet with Jakes PtincessThey also won the SNFC twice. Newbury and Falaise
Ian McKay Posted February 11, 2015 Report Posted February 11, 2015 Chris won the SNRPC Cholet with Jakes PtincessThey also won the SNFC twice. Newbury and Falaise See Jumbos donation to sebs legs Sale 3 Lot 2 :emoticon-0136-giggle:
Eby Posted February 11, 2015 Report Posted February 11, 2015 Well guys its been an interesting read on this thread. Missed some of it tonight cause my daughter does a lot of studying for college so I can only get on at certain times. Gotta do what am told sometimes! I would deffo take on board all comments made on this thread as they all seem honest statements in one way or another. Getting back to the Prize list Scenario its fairly simple. For example 430 birds at say Reims means 43 Open prizes. 439 entries means 44 prizes. If ur not in the first 44 in this case then ur pigeon doesn't qualify for an Open Diploma. However u can still win a Section Prize Diploma in ur Section again working on the 1 in 10 Prizes allocation. Say there were 185 birds in ur sect that's 19 Section prizes even although there might have only been say 8 in ur Section in the first 44 in the Open. So that would leave 11 prizes still to won in ur sect. These other pigeons might finish say 48th, 58th 67th ,69th, and so on in the Open Result but will still qualify for a Section Diploma by virtue of the 1 in 10 allocation of prizes in ur Sect. I know most fanciers already know all the above but I typed all this out for anyone that doesn't, maybe Novices or Young Fanciers thinking of joining for these Nationals. Further as regards the SNRPC no disrespect to anyone incl New Starters or Novices. They might be entering these big National races for the first time and when they time in from these far off race points its a thrill they wont forget. Again no disrespect meant but more often than not they wont make the result their still learning. If they do finish on the result although not winning a Diploma, they are bound to be encouraged when they see their name on the result even if its only their first bird. It shows their not far away and keeps them interested for the next year and so on. A lot of times the Veteran fancier doesn't win a Diploma but if he sees his first bird home on the result at least that's a little bit consolation, and that's all it is. In this day and age more fanciers should think of it from the Novice or young fanciers point of view. The old saying - "A Little Bit Of Something Is Better Than A Big Bit Of Nothing" Sounds good to me. Think about it you know it makes sense. By the way other big Nationals in Britain have been doing this for many many years. Not every bird on their results wins a Certificate/Diploma and it doesn't do them any harm. Best regards Gentlemen :animatedpigeons: :animatedpigeons:Could not have put it better,spot on
dal2 Posted February 11, 2015 Report Posted February 11, 2015 Don't think the solway boys like midday liberations which has happened occasionally due to weather conditions in the SNRPC. If my memory serves me correctly Stuart Mullens national winner was a late liberation with a strong west wind and his was the most westerly loft a great case for midday liberations Nah us boys really dont give a fook about what time they gan up cos we just get on wae it and win when our turn comes. 500 mile races should really be timing in on the day in my opinion whats yours? Are you a current member of the SNRPC? just so I can judge this statement correctly The east is tooo east , the south is toooo south???? What shall we do? Bigda for Norway or a boat in the Antlantic?
peter2010 Posted February 11, 2015 Report Posted February 11, 2015 Nah us boys really dont give a fook about what time they gan up cos we just get on wae it and win when our turn comes. 500 mile races should really be timing in on the day in my opinion whats yours? Are you a current member of the SNRPC? just so I can judge this statement correctly The east is tooo east , the south is toooo south???? What shall we do? Bigda for Norway or a boat in the Antlantic?So is it true Bigda is on a boat out in the Atlantic with no internet that's how we've no heard of him for a while
dal2 Posted February 11, 2015 Report Posted February 11, 2015 So is it true Bigda is on a boat out in the Atlantic with no internet that's how we've no heard of him for a while He is trying tae get a long/lat reading for the best race point so the south canny win?????? Its proving fruitless, bit like trying to find transparency or a future for the pigeon game lol!!!!
dms5686 Posted February 11, 2015 Report Posted February 11, 2015 Nah us boys really dont give a fook about what time they gan up cos we just get on wae it and win when our turn comes. 500 mile races should really be timing in on the day in my opinion whats yours? ArIe you a current member of the SNRPC? just so I can judge this statement correctly The east is tooo east , the south is toooo south???? What shall we do? Bigda for Norway or a boat in the Antlantic? I'm in both snrpc and snfc but i dont see how that matters and i prefer seeing day birds from channel
dal2 Posted February 11, 2015 Report Posted February 11, 2015 I'm in both snrpc and snfc but i dont see how that matters and i prefer seeing day birds from channelIt matters because you might have been just bitter and twisted against the snfc but instead yer just bitter and twisted about loft location lol
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