How To Reduce Yb Losses

[Delboy]

These are my reasons for yb losses and how I would remedy them.

 

1. YB Sickness, this can be helped ( but not entirely cured )by going back to basics and getting everyone to bring ALL their ybs down to their club to get vaccinated for pmv all at the same time. It has been proven that PMV is connected with YBS and I think if we went back to what we used to do before the sickness happened, it would reduce the outbreaks by a large margin. Also, every member should have their own baskets at the club for training and racing in yb racing, this reduces cross infection dramatically, especially in the first 3 or 4 races.

 

2. BOP, they scare the living crap out our poor ybs and cause devastation when they strike. I differ from most and do not believe we have to learn to live with this massive problem. Remedy-I think every single racing pigeon marked in Britain on one specific weekend should have a repellent on their back / neck going to the race. BOP problem sorted in ONLY ONE DAY !!!!!! .

 

3. Clashing, undoubtedly we have a great deal of clashing especially on the east coast. Remedy is- Every Governing body ( SHU, RPRA,NEHU,NWHU, WHU etc etc ) should be controlling the yb races. They should communicate with each other and decide what races we fly from and on what day of the weekend.There would be minimum clashing if it was executed properly through the Governing bodies.

 

4. Origin, I definitely believe we are losing the plot when bringing in all these sprint/middle distance pigeons from Europe.If you think back to the 70s, every single fancier had distance/all round pigeons and everyone had similar goals ( to score from the distance races ).Losses were minimum because the pigeons had stronger constitutions then. NO MEDICATIONS , only the spade was used to eradicate weaklings regardless of parentage and pigeon racing was definitely easier. Food for thought.

[Guest bernie_don]

del if we were all like you we would have a chance

[sob555]

I'll take 18 of them repellent thingys please.

[Delboy]

del if we were all like you we would have a chance

 

To stand a chance we must stand together m8.

[harky]

simple answer, don't race young birds .lol

[Guest bernie_don]

i think that the pigeon man of today have good ideas but the old timers are stuck in there ways, letting you know i am 61 come september, but change is needed or the sport is dead in its tracks.

[Kyleakin Lofts]

Like your post Del.

[Mossgiel]

Sort item 2 and racing will improve dramatically for all fanciers, and far more enjoyable The other items we could sort in due course, but for me item 2 needs priority.

[gordi.b]

Sort item 2 and racing will improve dramatically for all fanciers, and far more enjoyable The other items we could sort in due course, but for me item 2 needs priority.

Item 2 75% of the problem , will it ever be sorted ? i doubt it we just don,t have the firepower and the ability to lie to the public as certain organisations do

[bibendium]

cannae argue with any of your post Del.

[andy]

Del if you could get me the repellent I could train all winter on the east side and it would be nice and clean for next season

[andy Burgess]

These are my reasons for yb losses and how I would remedy them.

 

1. YB Sickness, this can be helped ( but not entirely cured )by going back to basics and getting everyone to bring ALL their ybs down to their club to get vaccinated for pmv all at the same time. It has been proven that PMV is connected with YBS and I think if we went back to what we used to do before the sickness happened, it would reduce the outbreaks by a large margin. Also, every member should have their own baskets at the club for training and racing in yb racing, this reduces cross infection dramatically, especially in the first 3 or 4 races.

 

2. BOP, they scare the living crap out our poor ybs and cause devastation when they strike. I differ from most and do not believe we have to learn to live with this massive problem. Remedy-I think every single racing pigeon marked in Britain on one specific weekend should have a repellent on their back / neck going to the race. BOP problem sorted in ONLY ONE DAY !!!!!! .

 

3. Clashing, undoubtedly we have a great deal of clashing especially on the east coast. Remedy is- Every Governing body ( SHU, RPRA,NEHU,NWHU, WHU etc etc ) should be controlling the yb races. They should communicate with each other and decide what races we fly from and on what day of the weekend.There would be minimum clashing if it was executed properly through the Governing bodies.

 

4. Origin, I definitely believe we are losing the plot when bringing in all these sprint/middle distance pigeons from Europe.If you think back to the 70s, every single fancier had distance/all round pigeons and everyone had similar goals ( to score from the distance races ).Losses were minimum because the pigeons had stronger constitutions then. NO MEDICATIONS , only the spade was used to eradicate weaklings regardless of parentage and pigeon racing was definitely easier. Food for thought.

i agree with all your points Del , and especially in the order you have listed them. just need to convince the unions first , fanciers should fall into line then

[Whats it called Cumbernauld]

As usual interesting stuff Del

 

Well said

[frank-123]

Del if you could get me the repellent I could train all winter on the east side and it would be nice and clean for next season

 

You could get it yourself for a few pennies.

 

 

 

[Roland]

Del is right. Of course he is!

Bilco has been advocating similar for decades now. If he had been listened to and took note and practiced what he said, then the RSPB would be clamouring, begging for the fancy to sit around a table with the governing bodies.

Spoke in depth with a Irish man that kept a fancy pigeon. He quite simply stated hardly any trouble with B.O.P. as THEY ARE sorted as soon as they appear. Sound logic. Beside the protection was only for two year in the mid 50's and in reality aren't protected by that law.

[b.massey]

Del if you could get me the repellent I could train all winter on the east side and it would be nice and clean for next season

 

 

Snap.... On the case tho

[dwh]

was YBS prevalent before the widespread use of the darkness system ?

just wondering

could the lack of sunshine be causing Vit. B deficiency

and could this be exacerbating the effects of YBS

?????

[john cumming]

i agree with all your points Del , and especially in the order you have listed them. just need to convince the unions first , fanciers should fall into line then

 

 

I agree totally with what you are saying, the biggest problem//stumbling block I see is getting everyone to buy into this

 

 

 

 

 

john

[flying fifer]

These are my reasons for yb losses and how I would remedy them.

 

1. YB Sickness, this can be helped ( but not entirely cured )by going back to basics and getting everyone to bring ALL their ybs down to their club to get vaccinated for pmv all at the same time. It has been proven that PMV is connected with YBS and I think if we went back to what we used to do before the sickness happened, it would reduce the outbreaks by a large margin. Also, every member should have their own baskets at the club for training and racing in yb racing, this reduces cross infection dramatically, especially in the first 3 or 4 races.

 

2. BOP, they scare the living crap out our poor ybs and cause devastation when they strike. I differ from most and do not believe we have to learn to live with this massive problem. Remedy-I think every single racing pigeon marked in Britain on one specific weekend should have a repellent on their back / neck going to the race. BOP problem sorted in ONLY ONE DAY !!!!!! .

 

3. Clashing, undoubtedly we have a great deal of clashing especially on the east coast. Remedy is- Every Governing body ( SHU, RPRA,NEHU,NWHU, WHU etc etc ) should be controlling the yb races. They should communicate with each other and decide what races we fly from and on what day of the weekend.There would be minimum clashing if it was executed properly through the Governing bodies.

 

4. Origin, I definitely believe we are losing the plot when bringing in all these sprint/middle distance pigeons from Europe.If you think back to the 70s, every single fancier had distance/all round pigeons and everyone had similar goals ( to score from the distance races ).Losses were minimum because the pigeons had stronger constitutions then. NO MEDICATIONS , only the spade was used to eradicate weaklings regardless of parentage and pigeon racing was definitely easier. Food for thought.

 

Brilliant post Del, very true and honest with a bit of controversy thrown in as per usual. LOL

Might add just one point, we should keep our birds in between October and February, the BOP's are good but they cannae survive withoot eatin'AW THE BEST I realise your original thread was about YB losses but whenever I read a post about BOP's I like to get ma tuppence worth in

Edited August 23, 2014 by flying fifer

[tyson]

why cant all the govering bodies in the uk not organise a march on parliment just like the jarrow march suely we could get 2000/3000 pigeon men and emphisise what is happening to our birds as this being the centenary year of world war 1 and what the pigeons did dureing the war by saveing many lives but now these little heroes are know being persecuted in the sky with these bloody raptors.Close the sreets of london with pigeon men we will soon get the publicity if we dont do something the game is finnished

[Delboy]

Brilliant post Del, very true and honest with a bit of controversy thrown in as per usual. LOL

Might add just one point, we should keep our birds in between October and February, the BOP's are good but they cannae survive withoot eatin'AW THE BEST I realise your original thread was about YB losses but whenever I read a post about BOP's I like to get ma tuppence worth in

 

Good point m8.

[walterboswell59]

Good point m8.

disagree we should always have birds locked out all day that we want them to have give them only what we want to give them

[Delboy]

If we did point 2 then we wouldn't ever need to keep our birds in .

[walterboswell59]

If we did point 2 then we wouldn't ever need to keep our birds in .

your right derek

[paddymac]

disagree we should always have birds locked out all day that we want them to have give them only what we want to give them

Have to agree Walter, one definate way of allievating the problem