peter pandy Posted April 21, 2014 Report Posted April 21, 2014 Its funny when I read posts regarding returns of all home 1 to come etc, I sent 19 late breds and dropped 7 but I must have a pile of s""te.
Guest stb- Posted April 21, 2014 Report Posted April 21, 2014 Its funny when I read posts regarding returns of all home 1 to come etc, I sent 19 late breds and dropped 7 but I must have a pile of s""te.looks like you must have Peter !!!! if you read most of the posts most that have one or 2 missing are latebreeds what do you exspect with latebreeds , unless there trained very hard i wouldnt send any latebreeds to first races, jmo especially in east winds
paddymac Posted April 21, 2014 Report Posted April 21, 2014 The first few races usually takes care of the s**te peter, I lost 8 in the 1st race @120mls last week but had 100% returns this week from 140mls looks like you must have Peter !!!! if you read most of the posts most that have one or 2 missing are latebreeds what do you exspect with latebreeds , unless there trained very hard i wouldnt send any latebreeds to first races, jmoHave to agree Rab, especially with the east winds
peter pandy Posted April 21, 2014 Report Posted April 21, 2014 looks like you must have Peter !!!! if you read most of the posts most that have one or 2 missing are latebreeds what do you exspect with latebreeds , unless there trained very hard i wouldnt send any latebreeds to first races, jmo especially in east windsThat sounds like an intersting topic "Dont send late breds to the first couple of races or East winds" SO I would be starting them at 150 miles ? NOT. By the the way they were started at 25 miles and had 5 tosses out to 40 miles then Gretna with the mighty Midland at 75 miles.LOL. :emoticon-0126-nerd:
Guest stb- Posted April 21, 2014 Report Posted April 21, 2014 That sounds like an intersting topic "Dont send late breds to the first couple of races or East winds" SO I would be starting them at 150 miles ? NOT. By the the way they were started at 25 miles and had 5 tosses out to 40 miles then Gretna with the mighty Midland at 75 miles.LOL. :emoticon-0126-nerd:Each to there own Peter you seem to have it right anyway you have only lost a 1/3 of them at 1st race . I wouldnt send my latebreeds till weatherby 190 miles so theres plenty time and will have em trained to 60 odd miles well before then . I seem to remember your returns at the young bird racing with the midland fed were the same last year when others were suposedly getting all home lol
dal2 Posted April 21, 2014 Report Posted April 21, 2014 Latebreds are fickle. Ye get them or ye dinny but the percentages are not great in my loft. I have a two yr old mealy that will hopefully get over the pond but some weeks last year, especially atbthe start, he made mistakes.
Guest stb- Posted April 21, 2014 Report Posted April 21, 2014 Latebreds are fickle. Ye get them or ye dinny but the percentages are not great in my loft. I have a two yr old mealy that will hopefully get over the pond but some weeks last year, especially atbthe start, he made mistakes.Someone said last year ma first roond of young uns were aw latebreeds lol Latebreds are fickle. Ye get them or ye dinny but the percentages are not great in my loft. I have a two yr old mealy that will hopefully get over the pond but some weeks last year, especially atbthe start, he made mistakes.Someone said last year ma first roond of young uns were aw latebreeds lol
Guest GAV Posted April 21, 2014 Report Posted April 21, 2014 Just interested does anyone who lost birds ever hear about them ?
philg50 Posted April 21, 2014 Report Posted April 21, 2014 That sounds like an intersting topic "Dont send late breds to the first couple of races or East winds" SO I would be starting them at 150 miles ? NOT. By the the way they were started at 25 miles and had 5 tosses out to 40 miles then Gretna with the mighty Midland at 75 miles.LOL. :emoticon-0126-nerd:Nothing changes i am inclined to agree about losses hardly any birds are lost if you ask fanciers about returns but they still buy and fill 40--70 rings per year ,strange goings on eh??????
frank-123 Posted April 21, 2014 Report Posted April 21, 2014 Its funny when I read posts regarding returns of all home 1 to come etc, I sent 19 late breds and dropped 7 but I must have a pile of s""te. Not heard of too many losses. Sorry you've took a hit. You always get someone get a bad race. Maybe your bad one is out the way.
anto b Posted April 21, 2014 Report Posted April 21, 2014 6/6 all yearlings from pilmore beach , cork 117 miles
eastcoaster Posted April 21, 2014 Report Posted April 21, 2014 Can say that some very good flyers in Airdrie were 10/8/6/5 birds missing on the night from Otterburn but maybe it was just Airdrie . Lol
Guest stb- Posted April 21, 2014 Report Posted April 21, 2014 Can say that some very good flyers in Airdrie were 10/8/6/5 birds missing on the night from Otterburn but maybe it was just Airdrie . Lolcould be the change in direction for you guys Colin im sure most would have turned in next day once heads sorted out , lanarkshire always race from otterburn
peter pandy Posted April 21, 2014 Report Posted April 21, 2014 I find that Late Breds are only Young Birds and the losses are quite compatible with early bred, Personally I breed Late Breds because weather wise they are reared when the weather is kinder and the days longer encouraging a better start in life but will still lose 2 thirds of them like any other young whether raced or not. Another reason is all my best pigeons in later life have went on to be superior racers at all distances.
eastcoaster Posted April 21, 2014 Report Posted April 21, 2014 could be the change in direction for you guys Colin im sure most would have turned in next day once heads sorted out , lanarkshire always race from otterburnVery possible , I never sent as I'm having bother getting them from 10 mls never mind 80 lol
Henrik Posted April 21, 2014 Report Posted April 21, 2014 I sent 27 to Ridsdale, all had been to 5 tosses before racing, was 9 short on sat night, one home Sunday morning with a banged wing and another home Sun evening. Still 7 short all of which were not raced as yb,s
Guest stb- Posted April 21, 2014 Report Posted April 21, 2014 I sent 27 to Ridsdale, all had been to 5 tosses before racing, was 9 short on sat night, one home Sunday morning with a banged wing and another home Sun evening. Still 7 short all of which were not raced as yb,sthey must be hagin aboot way peters 7 bobby does that not tell a story really
Guest bigda Posted April 22, 2014 Report Posted April 22, 2014 a think the lanarkshire are about 400 birds missing this first race.. most will have been knockd out the sky
REDCHEQHEN Posted April 22, 2014 Report Posted April 22, 2014 100% returns with the Up North Combine - 2 weeks running No latebreds raced (or bred for that matter!!)
walterboswell59 Posted April 22, 2014 Report Posted April 22, 2014 guys imo you are not giving any justice sending latebreds that have only had five or six tosses ive been doing well with them for the last 4 years winning out to inland national level as 2year olds i would not send a young bird team that had only five tosses so why do it with latebreds mine have 6 to 8 tosses the year they are born any half decent day right up to december i dont go far 12 to 20 miles then out every day in winter i start them again in early feb and they get at the very least 20 12 to 20 mile tosses then into the training van to learn to break from other birds for the 7 to 10 days before the first race i had 42 birds at the race 22 were late breds all 42 home in 35 40 mins the secret with latebreds i think is repation lots of short tosses treat them like youngbirds after all they are only babies 4or5 races and stop them and let them mature and they will do you a turn if they are bred from good birds of course
Guest TAMMY_1 Posted April 22, 2014 Report Posted April 22, 2014 a think the lanarkshire are about 400 birds missing this first race.. most will have been knockd out the sky how do you come by that figure Danny ?
Guest TAMMY_1 Posted April 22, 2014 Report Posted April 22, 2014 100% returns with the Up North Combine - 2 weeks running No latebreds raced (or bred for that matter!!) same as you we have had perfect returns both weeks of racing and again like you there were no latebreds raced but we did breed 3 off that hen that was so good for us at Saintes .
walterboswell59 Posted April 22, 2014 Report Posted April 22, 2014 how do you come by that figure Danny ?was wondering the same thing tam
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