alex young Posted January 21, 2014 Report Posted January 21, 2014 Any one use it is it any goodI use it all year round and have done for years,bought a few bottles recently and imo its a good product.atb.
Guest TAMMY_1 Posted January 21, 2014 Report Posted January 21, 2014 tried it for one season and never found it made a bit of difference but that is JMO.
eastcoaster Posted January 21, 2014 Report Posted January 21, 2014 Any one use it is it any goodI asked 4world known fanciers at Blackpool about this product and sedachol and others ,2 used both named 1used 1 but all agreed they not sure if they work or not but if it does no harm it maybe does good lol.
seabreeze Posted January 21, 2014 Report Posted January 21, 2014 the base of this product is cider vinegar,yes i use it but also see no difference in birds condition.
Guest TAMMY_1 Posted January 21, 2014 Report Posted January 21, 2014 I asked 4world known fanciers at Blackpool about this product and sedachol and others ,2 used both named 1used 1 but all agreed they not sure if they work or not but if it does no harm it maybe does good lol.except to your pocket maybe
REDCHEQHEN Posted January 21, 2014 Report Posted January 21, 2014 From the Natural Granen site: contains Echinacea extractsincreases the pigeon's resistancewholesome effect on respiratory, digestive and urinary tractsPH-value is kept in balance in a natural wayincreases resistance against diseasesimproves performancesAvailable in:1 L Concentrated Greens and Plant ExtractNaturaline is a concentrated extract concocted from some fifteen varieties of selected plants and greens. Naturaline also contains Echinazea extracts that enhance the general resistance of the pigeon. In addition to its active ingredients, this extract contains many other substances that appear to contribute to the specific action of the treatments since they can accelerate or slow up their assimilation by the digestive system. Naturaline keeps pH-values naturally at the proper level. The component plants and greens of Naturaline have been carefully selected for their beneficial effects on the respiratory, digestive and urinary tracts. That is why pigeons that regularly receive Naturaline in their drinking water present a rosy skin, indicating that their blood is pure and free from toxins. Their plumage becomes glossy and displays a unique rich, creamy smoothness. Moreover, the pigmentation and lustre of the eye are heightened. These external signs reflect an optimal health, which enables the pigeons to better resist disease and improve their performance.
andy Burgess Posted January 21, 2014 Report Posted January 21, 2014 I have used this for a good few years now ,had an old friend used it for the stock birds .I found some of my stock "asking" ,and thought this might be it ? it has a lot of natural products they cant reach being prisoners .just give it occasionally and its cheap enough , even a Scotsman shouldn't turn his nose up at it
philg50 Posted January 22, 2014 Report Posted January 22, 2014 From the Natural Granen site: contains Echinacea extractsincreases the pigeon's resistancewholesome effect on respiratory, digestive and urinary tractsPH-value is kept in balance in a natural wayincreases resistance against diseasesimproves performancesAvailable in:1 L Concentrated Greens and Plant ExtractNaturaline is a concentrated extract concocted from some fifteen varieties of selected plants and greens. Naturaline also contains Echinazea extracts that enhance the general resistance of the pigeon. In addition to its active ingredients, this extract contains many other substances that appear to contribute to the specific action of the treatments since they can accelerate or slow up their assimilation by the digestive system. Naturaline keeps pH-values naturally at the proper level. The component plants and greens of Naturaline have been carefully selected for their beneficial effects on the respiratory, digestive and urinary tracts. That is why pigeons that regularly receive Naturaline in their drinking water present a rosy skin, indicating that their blood is pure and free from toxins. Their plumage becomes glossy and displays a unique rich, creamy smoothness. Moreover, the pigmentation and lustre of the eye are heightened. These external signs reflect an optimal health, which enables the pigeons to better resist disease and improve their performance.Echinacea you get this in capsule form from health stores.
showman Posted January 22, 2014 Report Posted January 22, 2014 Echinacea you get this in capsule form from health health stores. Also available in liquid form.
TheHigg Posted January 22, 2014 Report Posted January 22, 2014 I have used this for a good few years now ,had an old friend used it for the stock birds .I found some of my stock "asking" ,and thought this might be it ? it has a lot of natural products they cant reach being prisoners .just give it occasionally and its cheap enough , even a Scotsman shouldn't turn his nose up at it youd better sleep with one eye open mr burgess :crying:
harry h Posted January 22, 2014 Report Posted January 22, 2014 I always thought that echinacea was used to prevent you from catching the cold or flue I think that it can also cause liver damage.
Guest ljb107 Posted January 22, 2014 Report Posted January 22, 2014 I use it once a week and did notice a difference in the birds and their droppings when i did first use it.
greenlands Posted January 22, 2014 Report Posted January 22, 2014 I always thought that echinacea was used to prevent you from catching the cold or flue I think that it can also cause liver damage. Echinacea is an herb. Several species of the echinacea plant are used to make medicine from its leaves, flower, and root. Echinacea is widely used to fight infections, especially the common cold and other upper respiratory infections. Some people take echinacea at the first sign of a cold, hoping they will be able to keep the cold from developing. Other people take echinacea after cold symptoms have started, hoping they can make symptoms less severe. The people who use echinacea to treat symptoms have the right idea. Research to date shows that echinacea probably modestly reduces cold symptoms, but it’s not clear whether it helps prevent colds from developing. Echinacea is also used against many other infections including the flu, urinary tract infections, vaginal yeast infections, genital herpes, bloodstream infections (septicemia), gum disease, tonsillitis, streptococcus infections, syphilis, typhoid, malaria, and diphtheria. Other uses not related to infection include chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS), rheumatism, migraines, acid indigestion, pain, dizziness, rattlesnake bites, and attention deficit-hyperactivity disorder (ADHD). Sometimes people apply echinacea to their skin to treat boils, abscesses, skin wounds, ulcers, burns, eczema, psoriasis, UV radiation skin damage, herpes simplex, bee stings, and hemorrhoids. Echinacea species are native to North America and were used as traditional herbal remedies by the Great Plains Indian tribes. Later, settlers followed the Indians’ example and began using echinacea for medicinal purposes as well. For a time, echinacea enjoyed official status as a result of being listed in the US National Formulary from 1916-1950. However, use of echinacea fell out of favor in the United States with the discovery of antibiotics and due to the lack of scientific evidence supporting its use. But now, people are becoming interested in echinacea again because some antibiotics don’t work as well as they used to against certain bacteria. Commercially available echinacea products come in many forms including tablets, juice, and tea. There are concerns about the quality of some echinacea products on the market. Echinacea products are frequently mislabeled, and some may not even contain echinacea, despite label claims. Don’t be fooled by the term “standardized.†It doesn’t necessarily indicate accurate labeling. Also, some echinacea products have been contaminated with selenium, arsenic, and lead. How does it work?Echinacea seems to activate chemicals in the body that decrease inflammation, which might reduce cold and flu symptoms. Laboratory research suggests that echinacea can stimulate the body’s immune system, but there is no evidence that this occurs in people. Echinacea also seems to contain some chemicals that can attack yeast and other kinds of fungi directly.
andy Burgess Posted January 22, 2014 Report Posted January 22, 2014 youd better sleep with one eye open mr burgess :crying: I do Wull
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