Yb Losses

[Guest Scaramanga]

Has anybody on the forum looked at the possible relationship of YB losses on the early races being associated with a higher percentage of "TRAINERS" being mixed with race birds? I can understand that fanciers do not want to lose ETS rings on untried YB's but it seems that more trainers are being presented and it is possible that these birds may not be as well schooled as they should be.

[blaz]

better chance of alot but not all of yb,s getting lost are bred from birds that have done now,t.

[robbiedoo.]

Has anybody on the forum looked at the possible relationship of YB losses on the early races being associated with a higher percentage of "TRAINERS" being mixed with race birds? I can understand that fanciers do not want to lose ETS rings on untried YB's but it seems that more trainers are being presented and it is possible that these birds may not be as well schooled as they should be.

 

from what i hear some of the trainers are not in the best of health either . i for one would never put a pigeon in the transporter unless its 100% fit and healthy . IMO any fanceir that takes his youngsters down to the club and some have something wrong with them none of his birds should be put through it just causes problems for other fanceirs

[billt]

Why would anyone breed youngsters that they are not willing to risk ETS rings on?

[bigjamie]

you are spot on robbie my ybs took yb sickness a week before the first yb race i got stuff from a mate and treated them right away the birds are fine now i would not dream of putting an unwell bird in for training never mind a race basket there some that do and it just gives other fanciers big problems its a selfish thing to do the problem with so much loses could be down to unwell and unfit birds in the transporters

[geordie1234]

you are spot on robbie my ybs took yb sickness a week before the first yb race i got stuff from a mate and treated them right away the birds are fine now i would not dream of putting an unwell bird in for training never mind a race basket there some that do and it just gives other fanciers big problems its a selfish thing to do the problem with so much loses could be down to unwell and unfit birds in the transporters

Wish everyone thought the same way as yersel Jamie

[bibendium]

Why would anyone breed youngsters that they are not willing to risk ETS rings on?

 

 

With the amount of losses m8 it could work out very expensive , personaly all mine were ets rung the week before 1st race, however on the illness theme. mine took ill between 1st race and second race, they havent been racing again this season as a consideration firstly to the birds themselves and other club members birds, I wouldnt think it right if I sent birds which I knew were ill, perhaps causing others to suffer the same.

[JohnQuinn]

Funny you choose to single out fanciers, like myself, who use rubbers on their Yb's, as stray officer for Lanarkshire i assure you the VAST MAJORITY of the strays have ETS rings on their legs, so not all birds with rubber rings are trainers, sick/unfit or otherwise a risk to the birds around them in the basket.

Never in all my years have i sent a bird to a race, or toss that did not have the ability to get home with the rest of the convoy.

[Guest geordiejen]

seems foolish to send birds that arent 100% you would be as well as putting the bird into the bin.its unfair on the bird and other fanciers birds.wont get you a good name either.

[daviedoo22]

If fanciers wish to send their birds as TRAINERS they should be crated and liberated seperatley to the birds competing in the race IMO.

[JohnQuinn]

If fanciers wish to send their birds as TRAINERS they should be crated and liberated seperatley to the birds competing in the race IMO.

 

Then they'll no learn anything Davie, kinda defeats the "training" to get them out the batch aspect

 

BTW, my clock is set every week and every week i time in and get ma clock run off, so my lot aren't trainers though they might as well be some weeks

[Guest stb-]

whats the difference sending as trainers than sending them but not getting a clock set , dont think many would just throw a team of ybs away at a race to train them if they hadnt been well schooled unless there nutts . Theres very succesfull members on here only send to fed races as trainers as there not in a club etc , if your looking for this as an exscuse for losses yer barking up the wrong tree

Edited August 27, 2012 by stb-

[robbiedoo.]

If fanciers wish to send their birds as TRAINERS they should be crated and liberated seperatley to the birds competing in the race IMO.

 

only if the lorry is not full and the trainers in question are fit and HEALTHY more importantly imo

[daviedoo22]

from what i hear some of the trainers are not in the best of health either . i for one would never put a pigeon in the transporter unless its 100% fit and healthy .

IMO any fanceir that takes his youngsters down to the club and some have something wrong with them none of his birds should be put through it just causes problems for other fanceirs

[BLACK W F]

theres still plenty racing to the clock like me its upto me if i ets or not and plenty more feel the same way with these rip off prices for rings so would not judge all rubbered birds as trainers

if theres room on the lorry take them why not but all should be RUBBERED or ETS not going into racing crates with out them on

[Tony C]

Sending trainers is alien to us down here, can someone please explain 'trainers' and the benefits of. Thanks.

[Wiley]

Sending trainers is alien to us down here, can someone please explain 'trainers' and the benefits of. Thanks.

 

Ditto

[andy Burgess]

Sending trainers is alien to us down here, can someone please explain 'trainers' and the benefits of. Thanks.

 

 

Ditto

was new to me too when i came up , although have only experienced it with old birds ,we had a non club member who used to send 20 or 30 old birds with us for training in the lead up to distance / national races.

[Guest Scaramanga]

whats the difference sending as trainers than sending them but not getting a clock set , dont think many would just throw a team of ybs away at a race to train them if they hadnt been well schooled unless there nutts . Theres very succesfull members on here only send to fed races as trainers as there not in a club etc , if your looking for this as an exscuse for losses yer barking up the wrong tree

 

Fortunately I have not had any losses and am holding my own with a small team of YB's (11)against pretty strong competition that fly much larger teams. I will be at the prize table. Having come back into the pigeon racing game (and I was not unsuccessful previously) I see that "Trainers" have increased considerably from 10 years ago and I also see that there are significant YB loses by other fanciers (Thread last week from England). I am bright enough to understand that there are other factors that have changed - Raptors, Weather patterns, Aircraft traffic increase, Mobile phones etc etc. My question was merely trying to understand if the increase in training numbers on what in my opinion should be a racing day was also a factor in YB loses.

[naedoos]

If yer y/b's are no worth £1 for a ring then maybe ye shouldnae be breeding them

[Tony C]

was new to me too when i came up , although have only experienced it with old birds ,we had a non club member who used to send 20 or 30 old birds with us for training in the lead up to distance / national races.

 

Perhaps I'm reading the posts wrong Andy but it comes across to me that members are sending y/birds as 'trainers'............. why is this:wacko:

[andy Burgess]

Perhaps I'm reading the posts wrong Andy but it comes across to me that members are sending y/birds as 'trainers'............. why is this:wacko:

reading it correctly Tony ,its not happening in our fed ,except for the very odd exception ,occasionaly an ETS ring doesnt work ,and a race rubber is then placed on that bird and it can go as a trainer . i know a site member who only trains his youngsters and often sends them with feds other than his own ,they get a good education for old bird racing.

[ALF]

I don't set a clock anymore for yb races/training haven't done since 2010 I get just as much pleasure seeing them coming on a Saturday whether they race or not