Linseed Soup Or Tea

[Wiley]

A year ago i read about how a fancier boils linseed and it goes like a gluey texture but cant remember much more does this ring any bells with anyone, or know how to use it without feeding it to the birds?

[billt]

A year ago i read about how a fancier boils linseed and it goes like a gluey texture but cant remember much more does this ring any bells with anyone, or know how to use it without feeding it to the birds?

Never fed it to pigeons but have fed horses on it and you have to boil it or it's poisonous to them

[andy Burgess]

seem,s a little strange this Wiley ? surely rather than go through this process would,nt it be easier to buy "pure linseed oil" , although in all honesty i would be un-likely to give a natural furniture application to my pigeon,s ??

[Wiley]

Andy, anyone who knows me well knows I like to experiment "don't tell the misses" lol but I like to knock up concoctions and potions especially with natural products I am a big believer in oils and my birds for years and linseed oil is one of the ingredients I regular give to my birds just looking for another way might be strange but sometimes finding a different way works 100 times better then the old way easy is the hard way!

[andy Burgess]

Andy, anyone who knows me well knows I like to experiment "don't tell the misses" lol but I like to knock up concoctions and potions especially with natural products I am a big believer in oils and my birds for years and linseed oil is one of the ingredients I regular give to my birds just looking for another way might be strange but sometimes finding a different way works 100 times better then the old way

yes have noticed Ryan . so you give "linseed oil" which is a furniture finish product to the birds ? and how ? on the feed i assume ? what if any benefits to the flying ability , can understand (if edible) could or would produce glossy feathering .are there any other benfits or ??

[Wiley]

yes have noticed Ryan . so you give "linseed oil" which is a furniture finish product to the birds ? and how ? on the feed i assume ? what if any benefits to the flying ability , can understand (if edible) could or would produce glossy feathering .are there any other benfits or ??

The edible version Is known as flaxseed oil and has great benefits not only producing soft and silky feathering, but also offers the birds healthy fats mainly omega 3 and a lot has been writing about it's benefits for us and our animals, it has the ability to control blood sugar levels and also helps with digestion, but anyone who sees my widowers usually comments on there aggressiveness and I feel the omega 3 has some contribution to it as it has a good effect on hormone levels and with any fats they are the best source of energy much much better then any carbs

[andy Burgess]

The edible version Is known as flaxseed oil and has great benefits not only producing soft and silky feathering, but also offers the birds healthy fats mainly omega 3 and a lot has been writing about it's benefits for us and our animals, it has the ability to control blood sugar levels and also helps with digestion, but anyone who sees my widowers usually comments on there aggressiveness and I feel the omega 3 has some contribution to it as it has a good effect on hormone levels and with any fats they are the best source of energy much much better then any carbs

well the aggresiveness seems to dissapear over time (the stock blue cock is quite calm) look forward to the PM telling me how much ,when , and importantly where from .

[Tony C]

The edible version Is known as flaxseed oil and has great benefits not only producing soft and silky feathering, but also offers the birds healthy fats mainly omega 3 and a lot has been writing about it's benefits for us and our animals, it has the ability to control blood sugar levels and also helps with digestion, but anyone who sees my widowers usually comments on there aggressiveness and I feel the omega 3 has some contribution to it as it has a good effect on hormone levels and with any fats they are the best source of energy much much better then any carbs

 

http://hos.oztorah.org/fjs/pdf/linseed.pdf

 

Reading this it looks like heating linseed will destroy the omega's.

[Guest IB]

Was looking at this just last week with another of our members. Flax- and Linseed oil, what's the difference? Seems its in the production; flaxseed is cold-pressed, and the oil is for animal consumption; Linseed oil is heated during extraction, and its for industrial use, e.g. a lubricant.

[greenlands]

http://www.hollandandbarrett.com/pages/product_detail.asp?pid=448&prodid=353&cid=20&sid=0

 

[Roland]

Why not just feed them Linseed / Flax?

[just ask me]

anyone try this be interested to know there thoughts

[Tony C]

[andy Burgess]

 

have you something to tell us Tony ? or raising the subject for discussion again

[Tony C]

have you something to tell us Tony ? or raising the subject for discussion again

Just raising it again Andy........... as the actress said to the bishop

[andy Burgess]

Just raising it again Andy........... as the actress said to the bishop

 

[tommy bhoys]

dont boil in house the mrs will kill you

[Novice]

The edible version Is known as flaxseed oil and has great benefits not only producing soft and silky feathering, but also offers the birds healthy fats mainly omega 3 and a lot has been writing about it's benefits for us and our animals, it has the ability to control blood sugar levels and also helps with digestion, but anyone who sees my widowers usually comments on there aggressiveness and I feel the omega 3 has some contribution to it as it has a good effect on hormone levels and with any fats they are the best source of energy much much better then any carbs

I visited a local store today which sells horse supplements. One interesting product on the shelf was a mix of rapeseed oil, hemp oil and flaxseed oil.

[Kyleakin Lofts]

I visited a local store today which sells horse supplements. One interesting product on the shelf was a mix of rapeseed oil, hemp oil and flaxseed oil.

 

Hi Robert, was this Gibb's and what is the product being marketed as?

[Novice]

Hi Robert, was this Gibb's and what is the product being marketed as?

I don't know what the exact name is . It's something like Omega 3 and 6 oil.

It was in Jet Set Saddelry next to Fraser's garden centre in Dundonald. They must think I'm a bit nuts in these places as I wander round reading labels to see it there is anything I can use. Actually I was looking for Red Cell.

[Kyleakin Lofts]

How does this compare?

 

NATURAL=SAFE=HEALTHY

 

AVI-CELL B12+ is a powerful, complete vitamin and mineral supplement and iron tonic blended with high level Vitamin B12 and Bee Propolis in a pure liquid High Energy Sucrose carrier developed specifically for racing pigeons. Aviary birds can also benefit from using the product, when fed at 25% to 50% of the pigeon usage rates.

 

AVI-CELL B12+ has been researched and developed specifically for avians. In the past, pigeon fliers and bird fanciers have used Equine products to supplement the diets of their birds. The essential requirement levels for animals are often the wrong levels for avians, which may also require many more specific inputs to achieve their optimum health and performance. Propolis is added to the product for its properties as an Anti-microbial, Immunity builder and its ability to improve gut condition and overall body metabolism.

 

AVI-CELL B12+ contains all the vitamins, minerals, trace elements and amino acids, along with all the micro and macro nutrients essential for good avian health and vitality. All are combined together in a palatable, readily absorbed high energy sucrose carrier. A high level of Vitamin B12 is added to the product to enhance performance and reduce muscle fatigue.

 

AVI-CELL B12+ can be mixed into feeds or diluted in clean drinking water and can be of great benefit in a number of ways:

1) As a before and after flying/racing, stamina strengthening tonic.

2) As part of a training programme to build up performance levels.

3) Prior to and during the breeding and laying season.

4) At times of stress, racing, travel, pairing etc.

5) For better/faster recovery rates after sickness and stress.

6) Quicker return to health following anti-biotic treatments.

7) Supports squab health, gives better growth and stronger immunity.

8) Propolis increases Immunity strength.

9) Better feed utilization and good gut condition.

!0) An effective aid to good health a vitality.

 

DIRECTIONS FOR USE: SHAKE WELL. RECAP BOTTLE FIRMLY AFTER USE.

Store safely, keep cool and out of direct sunlight, avoid frost.

 

AVI-CELL B12+ can be added to drinking water at 5 ml per litre daily for 5 days, then skip 2 days and repeat the programme like this through the season.

AVI-CELL B12+ can also be added to corn or other feeds at the rate of 10 to 20 mls per kilogramme of feed and feed on a normal daily basis throughout the year.

 

AVI-CELL B12+ is available in 1 Ltr bottles £13-50 and 5 Ltr Plastic Kegs. Shelf life is 18 months.

[bibendium]

Sometimes I think we over think these things.

[Tony C]

Sometimes I think we over think these things.

With my ar$e hanging out my trousers I'm always looking for cheaper options

[Novice]

How does this compare?

 

NATURAL=SAFE=HEALTHY

 

AVI-CELL B12+ is a powerful, complete vitamin and mineral supplement and iron tonic blended with high level Vitamin B12 and Bee Propolis in a pure liquid High Energy Sucrose carrier developed specifically for racing pigeons. Aviary birds can also benefit from using the product, when fed at 25% to 50% of the pigeon usage rates.

 

AVI-CELL B12+ has been researched and developed specifically for avians. In the past, pigeon fliers and bird fanciers have used Equine products to supplement the diets of their birds. The essential requirement levels for animals are often the wrong levels for avians, which may also require many more specific inputs to achieve their optimum health and performance. Propolis is added to the product for its properties as an Anti-microbial, Immunity builder and its ability to improve gut condition and overall body metabolism.

 

AVI-CELL B12+ contains all the vitamins, minerals, trace elements and amino acids, along with all the micro and macro nutrients essential for good avian health and vitality. All are combined together in a palatable, readily absorbed high energy sucrose carrier. A high level of Vitamin B12 is added to the product to enhance performance and reduce muscle fatigue.

 

AVI-CELL B12+ can be mixed into feeds or diluted in clean drinking water and can be of great benefit in a number of ways:

1) As a before and after flying/racing, stamina strengthening tonic.

2) As part of a training programme to build up performance levels.

3) Prior to and during the breeding and laying season.

4) At times of stress, racing, travel, pairing etc.

5) For better/faster recovery rates after sickness and stress.

6) Quicker return to health following anti-biotic treatments.

7) Supports squab health, gives better growth and stronger immunity.

8) Propolis increases Immunity strength.

9) Better feed utilization and good gut condition.

!0) An effective aid to good health a vitality.

 

DIRECTIONS FOR USE: SHAKE WELL. RECAP BOTTLE FIRMLY AFTER USE.

Store safely, keep cool and out of direct sunlight, avoid frost.

 

AVI-CELL B12+ can be added to drinking water at 5 ml per litre daily for 5 days, then skip 2 days and repeat the programme like this through the season.

AVI-CELL B12+ can also be added to corn or other feeds at the rate of 10 to 20 mls per kilogramme of feed and feed on a normal daily basis throughout the year.

 

AVI-CELL B12+ is available in 1 Ltr bottles £13-50 and 5 Ltr Plastic Kegs. Shelf life is 18 months.

[Novice]

Off hand I am not sure Andy. I assume this is from Aviform. I only said I was looking for Red Cell not going to buy it.

They sell outdoor type clothes there and the wife was looking at these so I browsed horse supplements.

I try to avoid products with a pigeon on the bottle as these are mainly overpriced sold by crooks.