andy Burgess Posted August 1, 2021 Report Share Posted August 1, 2021 please put your organisation , lib time and where from on here . and good luck one and all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allmac Posted August 1, 2021 Report Share Posted August 1, 2021 North West fed coldstream lib 8.45 light North wind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCN Posted August 1, 2021 Report Share Posted August 1, 2021 Ayrshire at lauder 8.40 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Novice Posted August 1, 2021 Report Share Posted August 1, 2021 These 2 are pretty close together. Let’s hope they avoided each other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy Burgess Posted August 1, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2021 These 2 are pretty close together. Let’s hope they avoided each other. not that close , good 1/2 an hour apart . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dal2 Posted August 1, 2021 Report Share Posted August 1, 2021 not that close , good 1/2 an hour apart .5 mins? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJL Posted August 1, 2021 Report Share Posted August 1, 2021 Angus Federation liberated at Lauder at 9.45 a.m. North East wind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fid Posted August 1, 2021 Report Share Posted August 1, 2021 Bang on Andy 1/2 hour!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy Burgess Posted August 1, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2021 Bang on Andy 1/2 hour!! and thats avoiding any "speed cameras" 5 mins? not so Stevie . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecky Posted August 1, 2021 Report Share Posted August 1, 2021 These 2 are pretty close together. Let’s hope they avoided each other.They will be okProbably 20 miles between Lauder and Coldstream Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1967 Posted August 1, 2021 Report Share Posted August 1, 2021 Pentland fed & E. O. S. 10.15 Scottish Borders 10.30 Otterburn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCN Posted August 1, 2021 Report Share Posted August 1, 2021 They will be okProbably 20 miles between Lauder and ColdstreamThere piling in fantastic race just about all home inside 30 mins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Novice Posted August 1, 2021 Report Share Posted August 1, 2021 They will be okProbably 20 miles between Lauder and Coldstream That, of course makes the assumption that the Ayrshire birds cleared immediately in the right direction.It only takes one peregrine to upset that assumption. not that close , good 1/2 an hour apart . Not at the school I attended. I suppose you were simply looking for an argument Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy Burgess Posted August 1, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2021 That, of course makes the assumption that the Ayrshire birds cleared immediately in the right direction.It only takes one peregrine to upset that assumption. Not at the school I attended. I suppose you were simply looking for an argument not at all Robert , please look at it again . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJWa Posted August 1, 2021 Report Share Posted August 1, 2021 They will be okProbably 20 miles between Lauder and Coldstream32 miles apart 35 by road Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greigthedoodrysdale Posted August 1, 2021 Report Share Posted August 1, 2021 Almondvally up 10.55 stobs camp light North East wind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyleakin Lofts Posted August 1, 2021 Report Share Posted August 1, 2021 Good luck all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trueblue Posted August 1, 2021 Report Share Posted August 1, 2021 Fife fed up at 10 45 good luck all Fife fed up at 10 45 good luck all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecky Posted August 1, 2021 Report Share Posted August 1, 2021 32 miles apart 35 by road22.7 via the a697 That’s what I found for distance wise by road Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bibendium Posted August 2, 2021 Report Share Posted August 2, 2021 There piling in fantastic race just about all home inside 30 minsBig losses again in Ayrshire , dont let one individual loft performance cloud judgement on this, I too have 100% but fellow clubmates have average 50% others have up to 20 birds missing from 28Other Ayrshire clubs have similar returns .to my club Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyleakin Lofts Posted August 2, 2021 Report Share Posted August 2, 2021 Big losses again in Ayrshire , dont let one individual loft performance cloud judgement on this, I too have 100% but fellow clubmates have average 50% others have up to 20 birds missing from 28Other Ayrshire clubs have similar returns .to my club The only reason for these losses are pigeons not fit for purpose, pigeons not trained properly, fanciers not fit for purpose or airborne hazards. There have always been pigeons not fit for purpose, pigeons not trained properly and fanciers not fit for purpose. We didn't have these same losses. There has always been airborne hazards, so what is the difference? There were not always wind turbines and 4 / 5G masts. There were not always the concentration of BOP. Wind turbines and 4 / 5G masts are outwith our control. The concentration of BOP is also legally out of our control. What are we able to control? Nature rules within the natural world, so how are we able to defeat nature in this respect? Wildlife owes its success to the proliferation of food when its young require it. We cannot stop human interference placing these killers within our towns, albeit we may have a slight effect if we are able to lobby enough. We have to look at nature's food chain. We race our YB's when the BOP are training their YB's to hunt, kill and learn to survive. We are party to their success. We have control over this. The majority don't want a blanket stop to YB racing, so let us alter our breeding programmes to suit a different YB race programme. Global warming is having an effect on weather and it is now possible to train and race during the winter. Let us look at YB race programmes during October / November. Short races to give experience due to the shortened daylight. Let us stop breeding loads of pigeons to feed the BOP and aid their success, but let us change when we breed, to ensure that their food supply will not be enhanced by our young pigeons. There may very well be other reasons for these losses, but the few I've listed are the first to come to mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCN Posted August 2, 2021 Report Share Posted August 2, 2021 Big losses again in Ayrshire , dont let one individual loft performance cloud judgement on this, I too have 100% but fellow clubmates have average 50% others have up to 20 birds missing from 28Other Ayrshire clubs have similar returns .to my clubThink the guys with good returns massively out number the ones with bad returns Charlie.Lauder must be the best starting race point Ayrshire has had for years... Always helps when we've a cracking pair of guys controlling and covoying/driving right enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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