Nwhu Rings

[b.massey]

RPRA

[bigjamie]

rpra are robbing *expletive removed*

[andy Burgess]

thats shocking

[b.massey]

Don’t be shocked if SHU go same lines

[paddymac]

Taking advantage of fanciers and hoping it will deter fanciers in the future from purchasing from other cheaper organisations.

[DBA421]

Don’t be shocked if SHU go same lines

The Welsh Homing Union has been charging 50p per to register NWHU rings for sometime now. They also now charge the same for SHU and other Union rings.

[andy Burgess]

Don’t be shocked if SHU go same lines

 

i will be if it go,s through without a membership vote ?

[b.massey]

i will be if it go,s through without a membership vote ?

 

 

Who knows Andy, I personally don’t use NWHU rings, but think it’s a money grab from RPRA as it’s well known a load of fanciers use them as far cheaper rings

 

RPRA are want a slice of the money pie it seems

[b.massey]

The Welsh Homing Union has been charging 50p per to register NWHU rings for sometime now. They also now charge the same for SHU and other Union rings.

 

 

It’s strange that you need to register them with anyone other than NWHU

 

I know SHU ask to update them with any outside rings (ie) Belg but didn’t think a law would come out about a registration and a date of (before April 1st)

[bluey]

The RPRA charge to register Belgian rings. The problem is they accept no responsibility thereafter.

 

If a Belgian rung pigeon is reported to the RPRA, even if it is registered to an RPRA member, the finder is referred to RFCB for owners details.

 

Surely if a ring is registered with the RPRA they should treat it as an RPRA ring. The owner has paid their union fee plus the surcharge to have it registered.

[Kyleakin Lofts]

I wouldn't be surprised if the Scottish follow and also do this, however, I think it would have been better if they had all followed the WHU when it tried to ban them from use in the year of their issue. The NWHU issue their rings very early and therefore 2018 born pigeons could be racing with 2019 rings on.

The other unions started to issue rings earlier and the WHU failed in its attempt. Now this action will only be seen as a money grab, since it doesn't tackle the actual problem.

[bibendium]

I wouldn't be surprised if the Scottish follow and also do this, however, I think it would have been better if they had all followed the WHU when it tried to ban them from use in the year of their issue. The NWHU issue their rings very early and therefore 2018 born pigeons could be racing with 2019 rings on.

The other unions started to issue rings earlier and the WHU failed in its attempt. Now this action will only be seen as a money grab, since it doesn't tackle the actual problem.

 

 

SHU rings were issued in December for 2019 Rings so the same will undoubtably be the case 2018 bred birds with 2019 rings.

I dont have NWHU rings but common decency from unions to register these rings should have been done before issue either 2018 or late 2019.not after purchase now

[Novice]

Maybe it’s time we joined the NWHU and raced under their rules. They certainly lead the way as far as minimising costs are concerned and don’t raise charges to meet their overheads.

[Kyleakin Lofts]

I wouldn't be surprised if the Scottish follow and also do this, however, I think it would have been better if they had all followed the WHU when it tried to ban them from use in the year of their issue. The NWHU issue their rings very early and therefore 2018 born pigeons could be racing with 2019 rings on.

The other unions started to issue rings earlier and the WHU failed in its attempt. Now this action will only be seen as a money grab, since it doesn't tackle the actual problem.

 

 

SHU rings were issued in December for 2019 Rings so the same will undoubtably be the case 2018 bred birds with 2019 rings.

I dont have NWHU rings but common decency from unions to register these rings should have been done before issue either 2018 or late 2019.not after purchase now

 

That is what I stated in my post Charlie. Instead of following and doing the same, they should have backed the Welsh up and banned NWHU YB's from racing in the year of their birth. They didn't do that. Now it looks like they are on a money grab and could be seen to be victimising NWHU just because they are not members of the Confederation, nor are they "toeing the party line".

[greenlands]

Taken from another site.

To me it looks like something the bull has left behind.

 

 

An update on the NWHU ring registration:

https://www.rpra.org/registration-of-nw ... hWzFcmNST8

The background to this decision is as follows: the sport in general is coming under ever-increasing pressure from animal rights groups and those interested in Animal Welfare. The RPRA receives weekly emails from groups and individuals who would like to see an end to pigeon racing. In 2018 a well known animal rights group approached the cross channel ferry companies requesting they stop transporting racing pigeons to France.

 

Therefore, I am sure you agree that we should do everything possible to ensure that pigeons raced under RPRA rules continue to benefit from the best possible animal welfare conditions – this includes the repatriation of strays. The vast majority of unions in the UK deal with the stray issue in an acceptable manner.

 

The RPRA has a designated team during office hours and an online ‘stray wizard’ for use at other times. Unfortunately, due to a high number of complaints received at the RPRA HQ in 2018 there are concerns in relation to the ability of the NWHU to repatriate strays in a way that I am sure 99% of fanciers would consider appropriate.

 

To ensure that pigeons raced under RPRA rules continue to benefit from the high standards of animal welfare the RPRA council has reluctantly taken the decision to impose the requirement to register all NWHU rings raced under RPRA rules prior to the 2019 season.

 

Ian Evans

Chief Executive

[jim]

NWHU ARE THE ETTER THAN THE RPRA AS CAN BE SEEN BY THE SALES AND THE HELP FROM T DAWBER ON GETTING STRAYS BACK HE INFORMS YOU PERSONLEY

AND ADVISES YOU BESY T WAY TO GET IT RETURNED GREAT SERVICE.

 

DONT KNOW WHAT THE CUMBRIA LADS WILL MAKE OF THIS OUTRAGE

[bigjamie]

the sport is bad enough and these greedy runts are at it looking for more money i have a lot of nwhu rings on my birds the sport is costing us enough without these runts wanting more money out of people the nwhu is run very well and there ring sales are great all they are doing is trying to put the nwhu out the game if so a lot of fanciers will follow

[tommy bhoys]

the sport is bad enough and these greedy runts are at it looking for more money i have a lot of nwhu rings on my birds the sport is costing us enough without these runts wanting more money out of people the nwhu is run very well and there ring sales are great all they are doing is trying to put the nwhu out the game if so a lot of fanciers will follow

 

jamie your ok you dont need tae spend anymare money

[Froog]

Does this apply to SHU members also? or only RPRA member feds?

[paddymac]

Does this apply to SHU members also? or only RPRA member feds?

This is issued by the RPRA for RPRA members only, the SHU may follow similar lines before racing season gets underway.

[Dave barrie]

All the carry on over a few pence, I'm proud to ring my birds NE, why should I want NWHU rings on Jock doo's, c'mon get a grip.

[Froog]

ALL THE CARRY ON OVER A FEW PENCE , IME PROUD TO RING MY BIRDS NE, WHY SHOULD I WANT NWHU RINGS ON JOCK DOO,S CMON, GET A GRIP. just noticed on caps lock oops.

I buy both SU and north west rings, SU are double the price, and NWHU are also free transfers, and much better to deal with tbh

[bluey]

In the NWHU catchment area there is widespread disgust at the RPRA decision, and not only from dual members of both organisations.

 

This ring tax could be the final straw for many fanciers who have chosen to use NWHU rings, the justification for which is shallow ie: to aid repatriation of strays. The extra costs and aggravation to continue racing could make them decide enough is enough and finish with the sport.

 

Somewhere in the RPRA hierarchy there is a bias or even a grudge against the NWHU and with this action they may reap more consequences than they have sown.

 

The NWHU may not be completely blameless by selling rings to people from outside of their boundaries, there is however no law against this. It seems petty that the RPRA over react in the way they have to de-recognise a legitimate organisation which provides it`s members with the most economical rings and transfer system.

[Dave barrie]

when convoyer all nwhu rings wre either put off at aitcheson of eymouth or if not down that far , put out at racepoint, are yous now sayin these strays could have been frae the north o the firth or what, ive been doin this for years? unless told to look out for certain rings, it beggars beleif that people wont put their proper rings on for the sake o a couple o pence,ive took them down tae newcastle and libbed, stick tae yer union rings then there is no confusion.

[tommy bhoys]

Don’t be shocked if SHU go same lines

shu are not going down the same lines at this present time