Its not my intention to create controversy however in Denny club which sent approx 150 birds only 12 were clocked on the day. At 11.00 to-day the following returns were noted. 0-4, 0-20, 1-15, 2-30, 4-24, 6-20, 5-15, 11-34, etc, If you believe the route has no bearing then you are entitled to your opinion as I have mine and I have no doubt in my mind with over 50 years experience that the West route is definately the problem especially now we dont have Lanarkshire to take the brunt of liberating before us.