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  1. Excerpt: When Mr. Gust De Baere, the fourth famous Belgian breeder to tell of his breeding methods, and his brother decided to start with pigeons in the middle 1950s, they have also heard of the almost legendary feats of the great "Klaren". This famous pigeon, bred in 1946, brought fame to the Belgian town of Nokere and directly contributed in large measure to the prosperity which his owner, the now deceased Mr. Matthys, was able to enjoy in his old age. "De Klaren" flew from 1947 to 1952 and earned R 8100.00 in price money from races for the combination Desmet-Matthys. He was also a superb breeder because his progeny flew equally well and in turn produced still more champions. It would be unpardonable to omit the name of Mr. Theo Guilbert of Zulte who bred a family of pigeons which formed the basis of many other Belgium lofts. "De Klaren"s mother came from this family. When the brothers De Baere started pigeons in 1955 they were aware of the fame of "De Klaren" and therefore hastened to acquire pigeons from the lofts of Mr. Theo Guilbert. These pigeons were mated with descendants of "De Klaren" and they have built a family around this basis. Their pigeons excel in both the middle and long distances, although they believe in specialisation. For this reason the De Baeres would not easily basket a pigeon for a long distance race which had given proof of its ability to fly well over a middle distance race. Mr. Gust Debaere became the breeder of the partnership whilst brother Jef attended to the racing. The partnership has become famous over the last 18 years and the combined results of the lofts of Desmet-Matthys and Bros De Baere have placed Nokere on a par with Moere (where can be found the lofts of Cattrysse and Oscar Devriendt) for pigeons fanciers the world over. The De Baere brothers have already won the title for long and middle distance champions and pigeons from their lofts are producing winners in various countries. Mr. Gust De Baere also selects and classes pigeons and his selection is based upon the following points. The initial impressions gained when handling a pigeon are important. The pigeon must have a soft silk-like feathering, be well balanced and should have a well muscled body. The wing must be supple, with thin and well formed flights. Mr. De Baere likes to see a wing with the first primary flight at least 1 cm longer than the last secondary flight. This "décalage" as it is called in French improves the wing and is an essential characteristic of the fast pigeon. The openings between the last three flights could be anything from 2 to 3 cm and these flights should be of equal length if at all possible. The head must be strong with the eye placed as high as possible, preferable above the extension of the beak line. The eye colour does not concern him except with regard to mating. He prefers to mate a dark eye to a clear brilliant eye. Dark brown or orange coloured eyes are mated to pearl eyes. His own experience is that the pearl eyes bred from such matings became excellent racers. Furthermore he believes in matings where the one pigeon's qualities compensate for its mate's shortcomings or faults. found on www.pipa.be
  2. £242
  3. Quote: pigeons breed twenty piglets and pigeons breed 10 to 12 youngsters He would have been better getting it proof read Unless it's a modified gene I got bored after that and didn't read to the end
  4. or - 25kg - I've had to sit and work that out 'cos I've been 'metricised' Can't get bags of potatoes that big where I live!
  5. The last late breds I had were in 2007 - 2 late bred hens, they were trained with the old birds in March 2008 - and had 4 training races with the young birds in August 2008 Their 1st proper races wasn't until April 2009, one scored in a very bad race (was our only bird back on the day) one had minor positions (both are in the stock loft now one having bred a 1st and a 2nd fed and the other a 2nd fed to date) Any other latebreds we have had that have been raced the year following their birth have all been lost
  6. Also in the pipeline: Getting fined £50 if you make a mistake on a benefit claim form Making you pay fees to appeal against a decision Banning you from claiming JSA for up to 3 years if you keep losing your job.....!!! (And the powers that be want to take away all employees rights and make it easier to sack people without any reason) That's just for starters
  7. Citric acid instead of cider vinegar You only need about a one eigth to a quarter of a teaspoon to 2 litres of water - to acidify the gut Available from Ethnic supermarkets, home brew shops and eBay (I know Morrison's in Huddersfield sell it - but not Morrison's where I live - under the'East End' brand) 200g is about £1.50 and would last a year or two (the equivalent price of a bottle of organic cider vinegar, which would not last a season!)
  8. Sunny in Redcar strong W TO NW wind
  9. The last race day of the season NEHU Open Lillers Birds to be liberated at 8.00am in a light Westerly wind Up North Combine Bubwith All I know is there are 3 cuts 8.00am, 8.20am & 8.40am (Group 6)
  10. 65p for federation races Combine races inland vary from £1.00 to £1.75 Channel (combine) races from £1.00 to £3.50 to send The combine races include prize money (but its not a fixed rate it depends on number of birds sent) These prices will increase for next year as the 65p does not cover costs !
  11. 2 races tomorrow for young birds Lillers (317 miles) Bubwith 55 miles THEN season finished Birds are let out as and when - once or twice a week I can clean round them - but for some reason my other half cannot !!
  12. whoops!
  13. It's not a prolapse is it?(insides falling out through egg laying) We've had that happen to a couple of hens in the past ( banding is not a good idea if that is the case)
  14. Housing Associations are usually stricter than councils, many of them will not even allow pets in the house - anything that could potentially annoy neighbours is a no-no
  15. That's the one!
  16. Feather mites
  17. REDCHEQHEN

    Eyes

    It's caught in the basket Owen Nothing to do with loft conditions
  18. Redcar :emoticon-0156-rain: and very windy all day rubbish weather init?
  19. I'd guess it is someones stock bird But it is a report to the RPRA job www.rpra.org
  20. REDCHEQHEN

    Gb12 S48889

    www.rpra.org Go on reporting a stray section Fill in the details - make sure you put in your e-mail address - and within a short period of time you should receive an e-mail with the owners details (I think it is an automated system)
  21. How many 2012 youngsters did you breed for your race team? 37, 2 lost off loft After training, how many did you have left for the 1st race of 2012 season? 34 (1 disposed of because of injury)none lost in training After the final race of 2012 season, how many do you have for yearlings next year? After yesterdays race (240 miles) and sending 25 - I have one missing - so currently 28 yearling for next year (6 missing from 8 races out to 240 miles How many do you have injured/hawked? 1 + 1 too injured to save How many have you had reported? 0
  22. The Up North Combine Maidstone young bird race Birds liberated at 8.00am in a North West wind (convoy of approx 14,000 birds) West Durham Amalgamation Maidstone young bird race Birds liberated at 8.30am Good Luck to all who sent
  23. I wouldn't have thought that the UNC would be liberating at the same time as the WDA And I bet they'll both be up before 9.00am! What you see in the homing world is a guestimate. The UNC are expected to go at 8.00am (another guestimate !!)
  24. Is it with a non-fancier? It's 4 miles from Coxhoe (Quarry Lofts) and 2 miles from Sherburn Sherburn secretary: 07879 081646
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