VAGIN Posted January 6, 2018 Report Share Posted January 6, 2018 We all know how Y/B sickness affects most racing lofts .My question is does the same Y/B sickness affect show racers or fancy pigeons . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnc Posted January 6, 2018 Report Share Posted January 6, 2018 ive got 11 pouter lofts in my area one 5 feet from my loft these guys never get ybs even in the summer when new birds are brought in every few weeks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiley Posted January 6, 2018 Report Share Posted January 6, 2018 I keep figuritas with my ybs they never get affected Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reno1983 Posted January 6, 2018 Report Share Posted January 6, 2018 Had fantails for 16 year, never saw it once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyleakin Lofts Posted January 6, 2018 Report Share Posted January 6, 2018 Pouters, figuritas and fantails, what is the common link? None of them normally spend overnights with others from strange lofts while waiting to be released. None of them normally goes through the stress of avoiding the BOP whilst racing home. I presume none of them are normally vaccinated against PMV or Paratyphoid / Salmonella. None of them are normally medicated to within an inch of their lives. Where are they similar to racers? I presume they all do mix with other pigeons and all are bothered by BOP around their home lofts. It has been mentioned that some keep them with their racers and are still not affected. Does this come down to a natural immunity? If so, why do racers not have that natural immunity? Is it because they are routinely vaccinated and medicated? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STB Posted January 6, 2018 Report Share Posted January 6, 2018 I keep figuritas with my ybs they never get affectedmy grandson has about 40 rollers west England tumblers and german owls and now that you mention it they have never had yb sickness either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paddymac Posted January 6, 2018 Report Share Posted January 6, 2018 I've had Fantails, West of England tumblers and German Blassens and never had any problems with any of them even though they mixed freely with my racers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mambo Posted January 6, 2018 Report Share Posted January 6, 2018 I think young bird sickness it to do with mice explosion in the months of may . june and young birds are on a restricted diet, also I would say the vaccines has a baring on it immunity would last 3 month's then sickness kicks in after that, I believed 2 doses are needed now to repel salmonella in those month's when mice do the damage, its the first time young birds meet a problem like that and then have to build up its immunity for the first time, dealing with mice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lanarkshire lad Posted January 6, 2018 Report Share Posted January 6, 2018 We all know how Y/B sickness affects most racing lofts .My question is does the same Y/B sickness affect show racers or fancy pigeons .It disnae just affect youngsters it can also affect yearlings ( Fact ) I was told by a good source that it was rife a few weeks ago amoungst the showmen . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiley Posted January 6, 2018 Report Share Posted January 6, 2018 Mambo I cannot agree with yb sickness being down to a restricted diet my young birds get fed as much as they want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philg50 Posted January 6, 2018 Report Share Posted January 6, 2018 We have vaccinated and treated with what ever Antibiotics we get our hands for a myriad of disease that we are not sure they have ,we have blown their natural immunity to bits and decimated their ability to self heal and we are asking the question of why they get all this ailements ,there are some that treat with drugs on a weekly basis IMO ,look in the mirror for answer ,fight to stop this yearly vaccination that would be a start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mambo Posted January 6, 2018 Report Share Posted January 6, 2018 Mambo I cannot agree with yb sickness being down to a restricted diet my young birds get fed as much as they want.[/quote you would have to get them under control at some stage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE FIFER Posted January 6, 2018 Report Share Posted January 6, 2018 would be interesting to know if those fancy birds are vaccinated ??????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnc Posted January 6, 2018 Report Share Posted January 6, 2018 dont know any pouter men who vaccinate or treat for anything and i know a lot of them, a big difference is they only get a drink from a cup at feeding time once a day or twice if hot so no standing water in hut and birds are in single pens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommy bhoys Posted January 6, 2018 Report Share Posted January 6, 2018 dont know any pouter men who vaccinate or treat for anything and i know a lot of them, a big difference is they only get a drink from a cup at feeding time once a day or twice if hot so no standing water in hut and birds are in single pensi know at least 40 pouter men fae all parts and they get the same problems as us they blame all the foreign imports Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VAGIN Posted January 6, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2018 would be interesting to know if those fancy birds are vaccinated ??????? Does it not state when birds are entered for the big shows Blackpool ect , all birds must be vaccinated I take that means all birds/ racers/ show racers /and all fancy type birds would be interesting to know if those fancy birds are vaccinated ??????? Does it not state when birds are entered for the big shows Blackpool ect , all birds must be vaccinated I take that means all birds/ racers/ show racers /and all fancy type birds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnc Posted January 6, 2018 Report Share Posted January 6, 2018 i know at least 40 pouter men fae all parts and they get the same problems as us they blame all the foreign imports well you no more than me tommy ive never known a pouter man importing birds or having ybs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE FIFER Posted January 6, 2018 Report Share Posted January 6, 2018 Does it not state when birds are entered for the big shows Blackpool ect , all birds must be vaccinated I take that means all birds/ racers/ show racers /and all fancy type birds Does it not state when birds are entered for the big shows Blackpool ect , all birds must be vaccinated I take that means all birds/ racers/ show racers /and all fancy type birds yes would think so but lots dont show and those that do only a few Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cemetary Posted January 6, 2018 Report Share Posted January 6, 2018 All birds flown or shown have to be vaccinated under DEFRA Rules. Nothing else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommy bhoys Posted January 6, 2018 Report Share Posted January 6, 2018 well you no more than me tommy ive never known a pouter man importing birds or having ybswell they bring them over if you want any can put you in touch way the men that are doing it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dooheed 5 Posted January 6, 2018 Report Share Posted January 6, 2018 We have vaccinated and treated with what ever Antibiotics we get our hands for a myriad of disease that we are not sure they have ,we have blown their natural immunity to bits and decimated their ability to self heal and we are asking the question of why they get all this ailements ,there are some that treat with drugs on a weekly basis IMO ,look in the mirror for answer ,fight to stop this yearly vaccination that would be a start.Speak for yourself Phylis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philg50 Posted January 6, 2018 Report Share Posted January 6, 2018 Speak for yourself PhylisYou know even comin fae the Blue Toon am right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dooheed 5 Posted January 6, 2018 Report Share Posted January 6, 2018 You know even comin fae the Blue Toon am rightNo Phylis in fact your completely wrong !! Myself and loads more Fanciers I know (to my knowledge) do not “Treat with any Antibiotics we can get our hands on†as you put it !! Also personally I do not agree with the stopping of vaccinating birds annually as Iv seen birds with PMV years ago and it wasn’t pretty so if vaccinations prevents it I’m all for it and I will always practice it whether it a Rule to or not !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philg50 Posted January 6, 2018 Report Share Posted January 6, 2018 Ok blue Toon ,tell me this if you are saying over medication isnt a major factor in whats happening ,who is buying horse wormer ,baytril ,Quest for horses ,umteen mycins of some form or another ,is a this companies starting up new products running at a loss ,the books are full of them ,but naw its nae happening Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dal2 Posted January 6, 2018 Report Share Posted January 6, 2018 Ok blue Toon ,tell me this if you are saying over medication isnt a major factor in whats happening ,who is buying horse wormer ,baytril ,Quest for horses ,umteen mycins of some form or another ,is a this companies starting up new products running at a loss ,the books are full of them ,but naw its nae happeningAve never had any of them bad boys and get the regular Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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