Shu

[Novice]

Think ill go NWHU rings this year also

I think they are allocated on a first come first served basis.

[Roland]

Personally I think the 1st of January is / was quite adequate. Where does one want how early it is to stop?

B. Earlier the better and ALL want to steal a march eh! Simple fact is in that scenario NO march on any competitor can or will be gained. I know, instead of breeding good 'Late Breds' let us put next year's rings on them eh!

Just what and how can December be the time to send OUT next years rung youngster!

 

Gosh one can already have youngster racing to big youngsters! Just what more does ones want? Besides being detrimental to the birds well being.

[Williedoo]

55p a ring from the shu

 

Is it 55p for plain rings from SHU as they were 34p for Fed rings this year.

[philg50]

All it does extend the breeding time for youngsters that can be raced by July some fowk if they dont get 2/3 rounds off their doos they wont have enough to loose during young bird season its really IMO bluddy ridiculous ,i would have number of rings restricted to 30/40 max per person then fowk might look after them better instead of the attitude thats on the go today breeding birds to make up for losses .

[philg50]

Is it 55p for plain rings from SHU as they were 34p for Fed rings this year.

I was thinking the same ,thats a fair jump

[grdkeith]

All it does extend the breeding time for youngsters that can be raced by July some fowk if they dont get 2/3 rounds off their doos they wont have enough to loose during young bird season its really IMO bluddy ridiculous ,i would have number of rings restricted to 30/40 max per person then fowk might look after them better instead of the attitude thats on the go today breeding birds to make up for losses .

 

 

We can always rely on you to look on the bright side

[Kyleakin Lofts]

I'm quite happy to wait till January, but point I'm making is......SHU stuck in the dark ages, the Belgies pair up in November

 

I don't understand why you think that the SHU is stuck in the dark ages and what the reference to the Belgians has to do with the SHU.

 

If fanciers wish to follow suit regarding the Belgians, then let them. If you pair your pigeons on the 30th November they should lay by the 10th December. If so, the eggs will hatch on the 19th December and the young will be ready to ring around the 26th December at a push. This means they are 2017 bred and should be rung as 2017 pigeons. What has this to do with the SHU not issuing 2018 rings until 2018?

[kingziemckay]

a 2018 pigeon should be born in 2018 and rung in 2018

[Delboy]

I don't understand why you think that the SHU is stuck in the dark ages and what the reference to the Belgians has to do with the SHU.

 

If fanciers wish to follow suit regarding the Belgians, then let them. If you pair your pigeons on the 30th November they should lay by the 10th December. If so, the eggs will hatch on the 19th December and the young will be ready to ring around the 26th December at a push. This means they are 2017 bred and should be rung as 2017 pigeons. What has this to do with the SHU not issuing 2018 rings until 2018?

 

yer dates are all wrong pal lol

[BLACK W F]

yer dates are all wrong pal lol

Andys counting must be the same as dizzy Di of labour party or his doos only sit and hatch in 9 days pmfsl

[philg50]

We can always rely on you to look on the bright side

Thanks !!! its nice to see you still look in

[BLACK W F]

I don't understand why you think that the SHU is stuck in the dark ages and what the reference to the Belgians has to do with the SHU.

 

If fanciers wish to follow suit regarding the Belgians, then let them. If you pair your pigeons on the 30th November they should lay by the 10th December. If so, the eggs will hatch on the 19th December and the young will be ready to ring around the 26th December at a push. This means they are 2017 bred and should be rung as 2017 pigeons. What has this to do with the SHU not issuing 2018 rings until 2018?

Andy SHU have less members than NWHU yet they have a full time sec and a part time admin compared with nwhu only run by 1 person part time SHU don't have any better benefits than NWHU so y are we payiny £13-50 membership for SHU NWHU £3-50 ring prices already shown free transf with NWHU ect its no brainer they need to change quickly they are in the dark ages compared to NWHU

[Williedoo]

Andy SHU have less members than NWHU yet they have a full time sec and a part time admin compared with nwhu only run by 1 person part time SHU don't have any better benefits than NWHU so y are we payiny £13-50 membership for SHU NWHU £3-50 ring prices already shown free transf with NWHU ect its no brainer they need to change quickly they are in the dark ages compared to NWHU

 

Try £17.50 Allan.

[Kyleakin Lofts]

yer dates are all wrong pal lol

 

Trying to push it out as close to 2018 as I could and missed the sitting time.

 

Start around 25th November.

Edited November 16, 2017 by Kyleakin Lofts

[BLACK W F]

Try £17.50 Allan.

a0

that's even worse just a p*ss take time our feds joined NWHU its 1 L in Alan Willie lol

[Kyleakin Lofts]

Andy SHU have less members than NWHU yet they have a full time sec and a part time admin compared with nwhu only run by 1 person part time SHU don't have any better benefits than NWHU so y are we payiny £13-50 membership for SHU NWHU £3-50 ring prices already shown free transf with NWHU ect its no brainer they need to change quickly they are in the dark ages compared to NWHU

 

£17-50 membership is a direct result of full time staff costs and lower membership income.

Ring prices are a direct result of full time staff costs and lower sales volume.

Transfer costs are a direct result of full time staff costs.

 

Change may be required, but it will never happen when the Membership do not attend the AGM. This apathy is taken to signify that everyone is happy, so continue as before. Grumbling on an internet platform will never bring change to any organisation where there is no attendance at the AGM.

I have raised the ring issue at Delegates meetings, both cost and quality.

[paddymac]

I don't understand why you think that the SHU is stuck in the dark ages and what the reference to the Belgians has to do with the SHU.

 

If fanciers wish to follow suit regarding the Belgians, then let them. If you pair your pigeons on the 30th November they should lay by the 10th December. If so, the eggs will hatch on the 19th December and the young will be ready to ring around the 26th December at a push. This means they are 2017 bred and should be rung as 2017 pigeons. What has this to do with the SHU not issuing 2018 rings until 2018?

That is the quickest egg I've ever heard of hatching 9 days :emoticon-0136-giggle:

[THE FIFER]

That is the quickest egg I've ever heard of hatching 9 days :emoticon-0136-giggle:

 

not as bad as breeding 2018 birds in 2017

 

 

[BLACK W F]

£17-50 membership is a direct result of full time staff costs and lower membership income.

Ring prices are a direct result of full time staff costs and lower sales volume.

Transfer costs are a direct result of full time staff costs.

 

Change may be required, but it will never happen when the Membership do not attend the AGM. This apathy is taken to signify that everyone is happy, so continue as before. Grumbling on an internet platform will never bring change to any organisation where there is no attendance at the AGM.

I have raised the ring issue at Delegates meetings, both cost and quality.

then maybe its time for postal votes as not all live around the corner like u Andy

 

not as bad as breeding 2018 birds in 2017

this is not a new thing 40 year ago guys birds hatched in December and got their rings on 3rd Jan just in time to ring them

[Kyleakin Lofts]

That is the quickest egg I've ever heard of hatching 9 days :emoticon-0136-giggle:

 

I was counting 19 days from the 10th December and due to a senior moment typed in 19th.

[Kyleakin Lofts]

then maybe its time for postal votes as not all live around the corner like u Andy

 

 

this is not a new thing 40 year ago guys birds hatched in December and got their rings on 3rd Jan just in time to ring them

 

Postal votes has been a debate on here before, I'm sure. Again it will not happen, especially given non-attendance at AGM.

 

I accept that many members live closer to the area where the AGM is held than some others, but that is exactly the reason why the AGM is held in that area. I have not managed to attend an AGM since becoming a Delegate due to childminding activities and Federation duties, but hope to sort that failing this year. Reports at Delegates meetings intimate that only one or two members attend the AGM apart from the Delegates. Not all Federations have their Delegates in attendance, so it would appear that only the Federations within close proximity to the AGM have representation. Members should either attend the AGM or instruct their Delegates at a previous Federation meeting. Notices of Motion require to be in the Secretary's hands prior to 31st October to gain entry to the AGM agenda.

 

You will never alter a closed shop unless you open its doors.

[DJWa]

then maybe its time for postal votes as not all live around the corner like u Andy

 

rotate AGM round the country Alan

likewise the shu show

priced a train to it the 1st year it started was £74

plus the 3 hours travelling to then 3 hours back

 

why not have then in perth area at the least

far fairer and more central

 

this is not a new thing 40 year ago guys birds hatched in December and got their rings on 3rd Jan just in time to ring them

[paddymac]

I was counting 19 days from the 10th December and due to a senior moment typed in 19th.

We all have them Andy

[blue lad]

We can always rely on you to look on the bright side

Well said Phil is forty nae enough to race ?

[Froog]

Well after reading some of the replies on here, ive changed my mind....I said SHU were living in Victorian era, I now think its the STONE AGE