Bird Flu

[greenlands]

http://www.rpra.org/avian-influenza-bird-flu-prevention-zone/

[Roland]

AND still ones want to interpret it as something different! (Selfish and needless)

We leave ourselves wide open in any way but which to be scorned at.

So when we raise a relevant and sensible uttering regards any thing, like say B/O/P/ or Housing problems / councils tyhey laugh and say 'You lol, you can't even keep your own house in order'! etc. etc.

Time to get over it and abide the rules and keep our house clean I say!

[andy]

Well done the SHU on getting it right!

[Roland]

General Manager   

 

Update at 17.00 12th December 2016

Since the update below I have been in regular contact with DEFRA/Animal and Plant Health Agency (APHA). During this period members and organisations have been given conflicting advice in relation to pigeons. However, the advice I have been given is that the compulsory confinement of pigeons remains and that anyone releasing pigeons outside of the loft may be liable to prosecution. Please be assured that I am doing everything possible to get this restriction lifted.  

Ian Evans

General Manager RPRA

 

However in wisdom the shu say to can let the birds out AS LONG as they don't mix / OR GET contaminated, or contaminate wild birds lol with wild birds etc. lol

Maybe we should in future teach ALL wild birds not to mix with our pigeons lol

 

Think they should rename themselves 'The Comedy Pigeon society'.

Trying to appease the SHU is making themselves a laughing stock.

All for the sake of a couple of weeks.

[REDCHEQHEN]

The SHU are following the latest guidelines. Sadly Roland, you are behind with the latest updates

 

13 December 2016

at 09.15

 

Following a number of telephone calls with APHA/DEFRA officers yesterday I can confirm that the restriction relating to pigeons has been lifted. Fanciers are reminded that every step should be taken to avoid pigeons coming into contact with wild birds including drinking from the same water.

 

Ian Evans

General Manager

[frank-123]

Just to remind you Scotland has a devolved government and are in charge of "Defra" north of the border so rules up here might be different from down south.

[Kyleakin Lofts]

The SHU are following the latest guidelines. Sadly Roland, you are behind with the latest updates

 

13 December 2016

at 09.15

 

Following a number of telephone calls with APHA/DEFRA officers yesterday I can confirm that the restriction relating to pigeons has been lifted. Fanciers are reminded that every step should be taken to avoid pigeons coming into contact with wild birds including drinking from the same water.

 

Ian Evans

General Manager

 

In what manner do we achieve this?

 

The APHA / DEFRA officers who agreed to lift the restrictions have placed a proviso on lifting the restriction. How do we meet the proviso?

 

We cannot meet the proviso and, in effect, they have done as Pontious Pilate done so many years ago, having washed their hands of the matter and placed the final decision with the rabble who have been pressurising them. The proviso covers the Agency, but the onus has now been shifted onto, in this case, the individual fanciers.

 

Sadly very weak governance by an organisation who have shown in this instance that they are not fit for purpose, unless they have scientific knowledge that this disease cannot enter our island or that pigeons cannot contract it. I have seen no evidence that this is the case.

[Roland]

The SHU are following the latest guidelines. Sadly Roland, you are behind with the latest updates

 

13 December 2016

at 09.15

 

Following a number of telephone calls with APHA/DEFRA officers yesterday I can confirm that the restriction relating to pigeons has been lifted. Fanciers are reminded that every step should be taken to avoid pigeons coming into contact with wild birds including drinking from the same water.

 

Ian Evans

General Manager

 

Like Kyleakin say How? it's stupid! So Red chequer if you know, and are so well ahead of the times, please tell.

Personally I know not, or know of any other that can ensure the proviso... Indeed as I say 'Laughable, and sadly SILLY.

 

Just to remind you Scotland has a devolved government and are in charge of "Defra" north of the border so rules up here might be different from down south.

 

Very True. Mind they usually work for the betterment together.

 

Mind tonight and in the morning I am letting ALL wild birds that they can no longer share any vicinity as my pigeons :emoticon-0136-giggle:

[Guest johnhunter]

Like Kyleakin say How? it's stupid! So Red chequer if you know, and are so well ahead of the times, please tell.

Personally I know not, or know of any other that can ensure the proviso... Indeed as I say 'Laughable, and sadly SILLY.

 

 

 

Very True. Mind they usually work for the betterment together.

 

Mind tonight and in the morning I am letting ALL wild birds that they can no longer share any vicinity as my pigeons :emoticon-0136-giggle:

roland you are on the ball

[Novice]

Honestly I don't have a clue what all the discussion on this thread is about.

The SHU have said there is no problem allowing your birds their freedom.

A little careful management and loft discipline will meet their proviso.

 

Frankly I am more concerned about the muppets who encourage feral into their area by feeding them.

[Roland]

Novice, Pigeons don't get effected by the flu. The worry is that they can carry it on the legs - Mind apparently Dafra As such feel that our pigeons could spread it! As for the SHU Statement, with it's proviso, that was meant as a joke surely to appease a few lol. An impossible dream.

But to be on the safe side I put poster up for the birds last night ... totally ignored. Heard a few crows cawing as in laughter... Maybe I put a Caw instead of a Jarp etc. in the wrong place.

As many will recall I told about the cat walking the roof tops ... Now cats can and do get Avian Flu... and they eat the legs first often. So I knocked the doors asking them to keep them in for own safety ...

My Robin say he would stay away provided he didn't lose his Territory later ... Two ring neck doves crapped on a poster, cheeky gits. And the Feral said that they would stay away from my loft, but couldn't guarantee not going near another loft, Nor when with other pigeons picking the minerals in the fields that they wouldn't mix with other birds.

A bit awkward this, so I phoned the RPRA for a quide line... They got cut of twice.... Both when I phoned back and stated I was serious they listen... Think he had a bad cold as he was wheezing a fair bit and gasping for breathe. I think that they had the Xmas party last night and were all suffering from food poisoning. Because when I asked them to put it on the loud speaker for all to hear, in case they could help, he said that they were all rolling about on the floor... I could help the gulping too... sounded a bit like laughing actually, still they said they would phone back some time.

Had a little good news last night too. Two Scottish comedians phoned to say that they would pass the news around when touring as they though it was a good line. Praise them, such good hearted sould eh!

[Novice]

Roland, the SHU committee had a meeting on Sunday.

I assume someone asked the secretary to check for updates on Monday.

She did this and circulated the information giving the permissive for birds to be exercised.

There is no need to discuss this any further as the RPRA were found wanting yet again.

I wait with baited breath to see if the Christmas race will go ahead as the fanciers concerned would have missed some training but have the opportunity to catch up now.

[Delboy]

Roland, the SHU committee had a meeting on Sunday.

I assume someone asked the secretary to check for updates on Monday.

She did this and circulated the information giving the permissive for birds to be exercised.

There is no need to discuss this any further as the RPRA were found wanting yet again.

I wait with baited breath to see if the Christmas race will go ahead as the fanciers concerned would have missed some training but have the opportunity to catch up now.

 

The Xmas race will go ahead , im sure

[Novice]

The Xmas race will go ahead , im sure

 

Great to hear that!

[Ian McKay]

Roland, the SHU committee had a meeting on Sunday.

I assume someone asked the secretary to check for updates on Monday.

She did this and circulated the information giving the permissive for birds to be exercised.

There is no need to discuss this any further as the RPRA were found wanting yet again.

I wait with baited breath to see if the Christmas race will go ahead as the fanciers concerned would have missed some training but have the opportunity to catch up now.

 

 

Readthe letter in Breaking News Racing is not banned

[eric owenson]

Not in the Xmas race

But sure it's going ahead.

[DJWa]

The Xmas race will go ahead , im sure

 

have they got permission from the rpra as they will be using one of their race points

and if the rpra still don't let their members fly birds out

all participating lofts could be subject to a heavy fine or criminal proceedings

 

is it the morpeth area the race is from ?

[Novice]

Readthe letter in Breaking News Racing is not banned

 

I did read the letter yesterday but I am still looking for confirmation as the entrants have lost valuable training time.

[dal2]

have they got permission from the rpra as they will be using one of their race points

and if the rpra still don't let their members fly birds out

all participating lofts could be subject to a heavy fine or criminal proceedings

 

is it the morpeth area the race is from ?

Do the rpra have a say? I take it the shu ratified this race?

[DJWa]

Do the rpra have a say? I take it the shu ratified this race?

 

would liberations in England not be covered by rpra rules

and laws ,

 

if anyone in England lets their birds out they could be prosecuted

so It would be the same if anyone else lets birds up I would think

[Ian McKay]

I did read the letter yesterday but I am still looking for confirmation as the entrants have lost valuable training time.

 

 

How much confirmation do you want The letter is from our governing body what more do you want

[Ian McKay]

have they got permission from the rpra as they will be using one of their race points

and if the rpra still don't let their members fly birds out

all participating lofts could be subject to a heavy fine or criminal proceedings

 

is it the morpeth area the race is from ?

 

 

Bollocks read the letter You always quote the SHU rules

[dal2]

would liberations in England not be covered by rpra rules

and laws ,

 

if anyone in England lets their birds out they could be prosecuted

so It would be the same if anyone else lets birds up I would think

It's not the rpra that tell us to keep the birds in or not to race

[DJWa]

It's not the rpra that tell us to keep the birds in or not to race

 

have the rpra instructed their members to confine their birds in England

[DJWa]

Bollocks read the letter You always quote the SHU rules

 

I suggest you read it yourself

 

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SHU only applies in Scotland

England last I heard still had a ban in place