andy Burgess Posted April 4, 2015 Report Share Posted April 4, 2015 what number of birds do you think are needed for a loft to compete from first to last race ,old & young ?? and why ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dal2 Posted April 4, 2015 Report Share Posted April 4, 2015 20 old 40 young Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyleakin Lofts Posted April 4, 2015 Report Share Posted April 4, 2015 That would depend on individual situations. BOP intensity, race route, race programme, etc.For me racing North, I would say 20 OB's and 40 YB's, but for racing South you could easily Just about treble these numbers. Haven't done the full programme south yet, but would guess 60 OB's and 80 - 100 YB's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billt Posted April 4, 2015 Report Share Posted April 4, 2015 My view on y/bird racing is, the more we breed the more they feed and I'm not talking about the pigeons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paddymac Posted April 4, 2015 Report Share Posted April 4, 2015 20 old 40 youngHave to agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted April 4, 2015 Report Share Posted April 4, 2015 Personally i think you would need more than 20 old birds to compete from the 1st to last race just going on how the racing has been the last few years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TAMMY_1 Posted April 4, 2015 Report Share Posted April 4, 2015 we have 40 old birds this year but 24 are yearlings and we will have 40 young birds,we have quite a long old bird season and we want to get to every race weather permitting,starting from 90 miles to 530 miles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dal2 Posted April 4, 2015 Report Share Posted April 4, 2015 we have 40 old birds this year but 24 are yearlings and we will have 40 young birds,we have quite a long old bird season and we want to get to every race weather permitting,starting from 90 miles to 530 miles40 old birds should complete the prog nae bother lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kennybhoy Posted April 4, 2015 Report Share Posted April 4, 2015 I've got 44 old birds and breeding 40 ybs this is my second season racing old birds so hope I can complete the programme,never timed a bird over 300 miles last year but don't know if the birds weren't good enough or am just not up to it yet..btw I've got ten late breads so don't think I can count them as if I can get them coz if I can get them to about 150 miles I'll be putting them back for next year..fingers crossed..good luck guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullcock Posted April 4, 2015 Report Share Posted April 4, 2015 At the end of the season, you will find that all your best performances will amount to a few birds, you need the numbers to find these birds.If we had a crystal ball we would only need a few to race every year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHigg Posted April 4, 2015 Report Share Posted April 4, 2015 ive got 35 old birds to race [not had a toss yet] so that number can and probably will go down anyway ive got 40 rings and will no doubt go to the shu for another 10 hopefully that will see me through the coming season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommy2 Posted April 4, 2015 Report Share Posted April 4, 2015 what number of birds do you think are needed for a loft to compete from first to last race ,old & young ?? and why ? i think down here ,to be competetive you need at least 100 plus youngbirds min,then 50+cocks and 50+hensmin for oldbird season,plus 35pairs of stock to bred your youngbird teams/but more important than that...time factor is everything,everything,if you want to compete right through....family and friends must come poor 2nd to the birds..i know its not very nice reading ,but its the way to go... if you boys need to work your on the backfoot before you start/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dal2 Posted April 4, 2015 Report Share Posted April 4, 2015 i think down here ,to be competetive you need at least 100 plus youngbirds min,then 50+cocks and 50+hensmin for oldbird season,plus 35pairs of stock to bred your youngbird teams/but more important than that...time factor is everything,everything,if you want to compete right through....family and friends must come poor 2nd to the birds..i know its not very nice reading ,but its the way to go... if you boys need to work your on the backfoot before you start/I agree about the work but your numbers are mental Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHigg Posted April 4, 2015 Report Share Posted April 4, 2015 i think down here ,to be competetive you need at least 100 plus youngbirds min,then 50+cocks and 50+hensmin for oldbird season,plus 35pairs of stock to bred your youngbird teams/but more important than that...time factor is everything,everything,if you want to compete right through....family and friends must come poor 2nd to the birds..i know its not very nice reading ,but its the way to go... if you boys need to work your on the backfoot before you start/270 birds i think the guys that work would struggle to feed them [i know i would] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted April 4, 2015 Report Share Posted April 4, 2015 We have 51 yearlings and 3 old doos for racing (We lost some trying to break them) I would like to think we can compete in all the fed races but watch this space :emoticon-0138-thinking: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slim45 Posted April 4, 2015 Report Share Posted April 4, 2015 Hope yous all have a great season all the best to you all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommy2 Posted April 4, 2015 Report Share Posted April 4, 2015 I agree about the work but your numbers are mental i totally agree with you,crazy numbers,but thats how it is now,its only going to get worst year by year,working fanciers are leaving the sport by the bucketful...just look at the top flyers down here ..never work..huge and i mean huge lofts... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommy2 Posted April 4, 2015 Report Share Posted April 4, 2015 We have 51 yearlings and 3 old doos for racing (We lost some trying to break them) I would like to think we can compete in all the fed races but watch this space :emoticon-0138-thinking: so 54 oldbirds and your only club /fed racing....what about the classic,nfc,bbc,bicc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted April 4, 2015 Report Share Posted April 4, 2015 so 54 oldbirds and your only club /fed racing....what about the classic,nfc,bbc,biccWe should be at all the fed races and we hope to compete in all but 1 SNFC race but i wouldnae rule that 1 out yet as if something is in form at the time it will go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b.massey Posted April 4, 2015 Report Share Posted April 4, 2015 12 old birds for me this year Hopefully breed 30 young I think the way the bop is going I'll struggle to see season out but can only try Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryngwynt Lofts Posted April 4, 2015 Report Share Posted April 4, 2015 Ive got 18 cocks to race this season,plan is to take them down to the coast.Then finish them,and keep for next year.I hope to have 40 ish youngsters to get me to 200 miles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shasha Posted April 4, 2015 Report Share Posted April 4, 2015 I will have 35 obs most of the them have raced last years programme and hoping to have 55 ybs. In my eyes what comes back comes back.all the best to all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seaforth Posted April 4, 2015 Report Share Posted April 4, 2015 16 old birds for me and roughly 70 ybs. all old birds to the coast and youngsters to 200miles all goin well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TAMMY_1 Posted April 5, 2015 Report Share Posted April 5, 2015 I agree about the work but your numbers are mentalwell most folk work and make the birds fit round it,have never found it a problem,plenty hours of daylight now and it will get better every day so there is plenty time for everything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott mca Posted April 5, 2015 Report Share Posted April 5, 2015 Having just restarted last year ive 16 old birds ( Yearlings )will breed 40 young birds if i can get my yearlings to 200 - 250 miles that will do me this year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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