Young Bird Racing

[greenlands]

Yesterday,West Cumbria Federation were at Garstang,liberated at I believe 07:15 roughly a 50 mile journey home,some 90% of the fed.missing ? Some lads 80 or so missing.

I feel sorry for these lads a real stinker,but what happens ? what's the problem ? Was it the heat/sultry weather ? BOP ?

Birds that look good externally but there's an inner problem ?

I wish some one could put their finger on what's going on.

I have a small team and don't fancy racing them if this is the outcome,all have had one race,nine have had two,all very well trained,has anyone had good old birds from youngens that have had little race experience ?

[THE FIFER]

good question m8,

[KMCK]

We go a thumping from Gretna yesterday we have 3 from 31

[dal2]

Bad sh** lindsay. Solway had a great first race but ayrshire get s a stinker om the same area at roughly the same time! !!!

[greenlands]

There's something sadly amiss here because there are good fanciers who know their birds loosing big numbers and others also good lads getting good returns,is there an internal problem that's not showing an external sign,ie.still good droppings,still exercising well,put them in a basket away from the loft and they don't come home ?? :emoticon-0138-thinking: :emoticon-0138-thinking:

[KEVIN ELLIOTT]

WELL IT MUST HAVE BEEN THE SAME FOR MOST FEDS THEN AS ABERDEEN FED WERE AT THORNTON AND LOTS OF BIRDS MISSING

SOME NEVER SAW A BIRD SOME 3 FROM 23 AND SO ON MYSELF 21 FROM 28

NOTHING AS YET THIS MORNING :unsure:

[walterboswell59]

i agree with lindsay birds are not right something is going through the baskets but prob a combination of all three but if birds are not right they cannot handle the other two nothing to do with east or west lanarkshire had a great race yesterday but only a matter of time before it hits our baskets to watch your club baskets or training baskets as soon as you see birds throwing up thats the start of it and within a week or so you have it to i dont profess to know what it is i just know its there

[Delboy]

Yesterday,West Cumbria Federation were at Garstang,liberated at I believe 07:15 roughly a 50 mile journey home,some 90% of the fed.missing ? Some lads 80 or so missing.

I feel sorry for these lads a real stinker,but what happens ? what's the problem ? Was it the heat/sultry weather ? BOP ?

Birds that look good externally but there's an inner problem ?

I wish some one could put their finger on what's going on.

I have a small team and don't fancy racing them if this is the outcome,all have had one race,nine have had two,all very well trained,has anyone had good old birds from youngens that have had little race experience ?

 

 

Simple as that.

[Dmurray]

Very strange indeed that 3 big Feds from different parts of the country all had bad racing on what seemed a great day for racing , personally our fed south lanarkshire had a good race with myself having 41/43

[nagid]

i agree with lindsay birds are not right something is going through the baskets but prob a combination of all three but if birds are not right they cannot handle the other two nothing to do with east or west lanarkshire had a great race yesterday but only a matter of time before it hits our baskets to watch your club baskets or training baskets as soon as you see birds throwing up thats the start of it and within a week or so you have it to i dont profess to know what it is i just know its there

I believe the fanciers brought this problem on thereselfs walter.proped up birds from week to week seems to be the norm these days.nature dosnt work that way.only the strong and healthy should survive and all the rest fall by the wayside.JMO

[sammy]

Simple as that.

:emoticon-0137-clapping:

[greenlands]

Simple as that.

If it was that simple ,why are some fanciers getting good returns,at least over the past three week.Their birds are not immune to BOP

[Delboy]

If it was that simple ,why are some fanciers getting good returns,at least over the past three week.Their birds are not immune to BOP

 

Deal with the BOP and watch how your returns improve. Years ago we only bred 18 ybs because there were no BOP, mobile phones etc etc .Fanciers seem to be unaware that BOP is making this sport so much more expensive. The costs of feed, vaccinations, medication, training and birdage is all increased because of BOP. Every fancier is breeding an extra 15-20 ybs to feed BOP, that's a fact. Its pathetic that we haven't sorted this before now.

[Guest stb-]

If it was that simple ,why are some fanciers getting good returns,at least over the past three week.Their birds are not immune to BOP

lindsay i have seen bop strikes on birds at training on my own and with other the birds split and head in different directions sometimes you go home and mosy of your birds are home but your m8 has none as his went in the oposite direction

sometimes you have half together and never see the other half and on otherr occasions your m8s get theres and you get a hammering .

It all depepnds on what direction they head . ive had percie strike 20 mls south of glasgow and had birds in brampton south yourshire lincoln and norfolk 7 hours latter .

That particular day i got 7 from 80 home on the day and had 5 in the loft when i got home swo thats what percy does add to that the heat last 2 weeks and birds flying of maby 100s miles wrong direction or being to frightened to pass the strike point again they soon dehydrate and drop like flies . old birds can handle it better and wortk in youn g birds go down in body quickly.

The diffo in some feds getting good races and some dissasters from same area is some get hit some dont nothing less nothing more . You can gauranttee lanarkshire got a scelp at otterburn last week and got a clean run this week thsats all it is.

PEREGRINE FALCON

[blue pied]

BOP is a poblem yes, but not as much as you all think

[philg50]

Last week i had a young ane didnt come in with the rest when called it sat on the roof most of the day and it was very hot and dry atmosphere any way,when i did get it in and into its section it didnt no its *expletive removed* frae its elbow it did nt know where drinker was it didnt pick up feed,it was obviously dazed with dehydration ,it wasnt right until i stuck its head in drinker,IMO we shouldnt be racing in these wild tempratures ,start young bird racing in August later if need be ,the first race as i heard was a bit of a disaster and yesterday nae a lot better ,I havent put yet because of weather so will see what next weeks like.

[greenlands]

Just looking for answers lads,keep them coming,we were on a trainer last week,probably ten members or so liberated and were hit by percy right away.

[yeboah]

Lindsay

There was a batch of approx estimate 400ish birds being chased around the hills here by falcons at approx 11am

Had birds dropping onto the roofs all around me

There were other groups going all ways

Solway seemingly had good race yet the three of us in the north section here got between a quarter and half our teams

I seen 3 of my birds return in the afternoon all from the north suggesting they got taken by the large batches hence the reason we got a touching

Birds were maybe clear of the racepoint but not clear of our area prior to our birds arriving

Once lanarkshire move into this area including ourselves there will be 5 Feds trying to get young birds clear of a confined area in to short a space of time

Feel not enough leeway given to youngsters IMO

[Guest stb-]

BOP is a poblem yes, but not as much as you all think

and how do you work that out andrew i had 3 from dunbar yest returned hawked 26 old birds returned ripped to bits 9 of them from leicester race alone , fuk kniows how many missing or killed around lofty area , you dont half post some Pishe at times

[Guest stb-]

BOP is a poblem yes, but not as much as you all think

did you not have a wee meeting with the b o p at your first toss 3 home fae 30 you posted on the day and only 7 in tootal birds in st andrews and all over !!!!!!!!!! Pierres been filling your heed way a load of sheit. b o. . p only not bad when you dont get hit .

[Novice]

Lindsay

There was a batch of approx estimate 400ish birds being chased around the hills here by falcons at approx 11am

Had birds dropping onto the roofs all around me

There were other groups going all ways

Solway seemingly had good race yet the three of us in the north section here got between a quarter and half our teams

I seen 3 of my birds return in the afternoon all from the north suggesting they got taken by the large batches hence the reason we got a touching

Birds were maybe clear of the racepoint but not clear of our area prior to our birds arriving

Once lanarkshire move into this area including ourselves there will be 5 Feds trying to get young birds clear of a confined area in to short a space of time

Feel not enough leeway given to youngsters IMO

 

Interesting post Mike. I wonder if they were wearing Ayrshire rings?

There will always be multiple reasons for poor racing but there is no doubt that, especially at this time of year, the peregrine falcon is a major contributor.

There are fanciers also racing birds which are ill and birds which are poorly trained and have no idea how to find water in the basket.

Unfortunately the virus which causes YBS seems to have no affect on the peregrine falcon.

 

A few years ago the word peregrine never featured much in my posts. Indeed, I struggled to spell it correctly. Now I have no problem with the spelling. I suppose practice makes perfect.

 

As far as the Solway race is concerned I heard that returns to the Dumfries area were poor and there were not many second day pigeons.

What a joke even talking about second day birds from 60 mile races.

[blue pied]

did you not have a wee meeting with the b o p at your first toss 3 home fae 30 you posted on the day and only 7 in tootal birds in st andrews and all over !!!!!!!!!! Pierres been filling your heed way a load of sheit. b o. . p only not bad when you dont get hit .

yes rab i got 12/22. i know something went through my pigeons as i had 4 injured. many people come on here and spout about how BOP is killing our game. Health of pigeons (mostly with Yb) is making yb racing so hard.

[grdkeith]

Last week i had a young ane didnt come in with the rest when called it sat on the roof most of the day and it was very hot and dry atmosphere any way,when i did get it in and into its section it didnt no its *expletive removed* frae its elbow it did nt know where drinker was it didnt pick up feed,it was obviously dazed with dehydration ,it wasnt right until i stuck its head in drinker,IMO we shouldnt be racing in these wild tempratures ,start young bird racing in August later if need be ,the first race as i heard was a bit of a disaster and yesterday nae a lot better ,I havent put yet because of weather so will see what next weeks like.

 

start yb racing in August or later you mean september????

[Guest stb-]

funnily enough i have a friend who started training just over a week ago from 5 different places he has been unfortunate enough to have his birds hit just after lib each time and is almost cleaned out and not past 15 miles but goes to show theres still some clowns who think b o p is not much of a problem dhhhhhh That to me is wrong place at wrong time but theres no right place or right time now

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[blue pied]

yes rab i got 12/22. i know something went through my pigeons as i had 4 injured. many people come on here and spout about how BOP is killing our game. Health of pigeons is making yb racing so hard. thats just my opinion