IS SCOTTISH PIGEON RACING IN DECLINE

[gulkie]

why dont we stop all the charity,then it may be asked why and spend it on our selfs

maybe someone will ask why or tell the[press]

[Guest lenwadebob]

There's alot of factors why the sport and fancy side is dwindling .,...as far as abuse and underhand tatics go ..that will never stop as there to many bad apples around ...jealous bad apples i may add ,

Promotion for the sport of pigeon racing and the hobby of fancy pigeons and the showing scene needs to be stepped up ..i know theres some measures that have been put in place but a more direct approach is needed.

We all talk about no youngsters coming into the pigeon hobby , due to various reasons ...playstations , pcs , ect ect the list is endless..i know ive tryed to get my 17 year old son envolved but theres just no interest there at all.

Then you have the price of pigeon products , lofts and the accesories not to mention feeding , the list goes on. Your average teenager couldnt begin to afford such things.

Also , in this day an age alot of people look apon pigeons as some sort of vermin ...so they very rarely get any good press.

 

There needs to be some sort of campaign put in place that every uk pigeon fancier can be envolved in....promoting the hobby in their own areas.

Maybe a good promotional video or something that can be used via the internet ...anythings worth a try at this late stage.

 

Probably a whole lot of truth in this.... Computers, XBoxes, Playstaions etc are the ruination of youngsters today. Teachers even have a hell of a job getting little Johnny to kick a football in the playground these days, so what chance have we got :-/

[Chris Little]

To answer the question of the thread..... YES !!!!

 

Dont know what it is about us Jocks but we seem to do our sport more damage than the rest of the UK.

 

Politics politics, bickering, backstabbing, jealousy etc is the cancer of our sport. Far too many so called fanciers who cant fly a kite but yet seem to enjoy falling out with others. These are the people that need a reality check, these are the ones who are dragging our sport down and sadly there is a few on this site.

 

[robbiedoo.]

very well put chris not a truer word said.

[walterbmasson]

YOUNG  ZIMMY  THERES A LOT THAT CAN BE DONE TO GET PEOPLE  INTRESTED TO GET YOUNG FANCIERS INTRESTED HOW MANY BIRDS DO YOU HAVE TO CLOCK IN AT INLAND RACES I KNOW MY FIRST BIRD INTO THE CLOCK UP TO 300MILES IS ALL I WOULD WANT ND GIVE THE NOVICES A CHANCE AFTER ALL THATS ALL YOU NEED FOR AVRAGES WINNING THE RACE POINTS ETC  LEVELALWE DO THAT NOW IN SCOTTISH RACES IN CLUB AND FED 3BIRDS TO BE CLOCKED SAME CAN BE DONE AT SNFC  INLAND RACES JUST PUT A LIMIT ON HOW MANY THE SHORTEST FLYERS CAN TIME IN SO NEW STARTERS CAN GET A OPEN DIPLOMA TO GIVE THEM INTREST I MYSELF WONT BE SENDING AGAIN TO THS DEBACKLE YOUNG ZIMMY HOW MANY HAS BEEN FORCED OUT OF OUR SPORT BY BEING BANNED FOR JUST BEING A GOOD FANCIER WINNING OUT OF TURN BUT I WOULD LIKE TO PUT A WE BIT GOOD NEWS THE NORTH OF SCOTLAND FED IS GETTING BETTER EVER YEAR WITH UP TO 3;000 BIRDS IN SCOTTISH AND SILL MANAGED 721BIRD FROM OUR LONGEST OLD BIRD RACE AND AM TOLD NEW MEMBERS GOING TO APPLY FOR 2010  8) 8) 8)

[hotrod]

well in our club we have had a few young members coming in ,this last few years , but as they come in sadly we lose some as well , the sport in scotland is split as we all know ,the first thing that would need to happen would be the snfc would have to change their rule about (having to be a member of the SHU) to be a member of any recognised union  ,this would bring us all together in 2 possibly 3 years . jmo

[Guest youngzimmy]

THIS IS A HIGHLY COMPETITIVE SPORT AND I DONT THINK IT IS A MATTER OF LET THE NEW GUY WIN IT IS A MATTER OF POINTING THE NEW GUY IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION AND SOME WORTHWHILE ADVICE ON HOW TO GO ABOUT IT I PERSONALY WOULD NOT LIKE TO BE ALOUD TO WIN AS A LITTLE ADVICE AND A BIT OF MY OWN EFFORT IS FAR MORE PREFERABLE I GOT SOME ADVICE ON FEEDING FROM ANDY MILLER KNOWING HIM TO BE A REALY GOOD FANCIER I TOOK HIS ADVICE AND WON THE RACE THAT WEEK THERE WAS HARDLY ENOUGH ROOM IN EAST CALDER THAT DAY FOR MY HEID I FELT GREAT

[tiger]

To answer the question of the thread..... YES !!!!

 

Dont know what it is about us Jocks but we seem to do our sport more damage than the rest of the UK.

 

Politics politics, bickering, backstabbing, jealousy etc is the cancer of our sport. Far too many so called fanciers who cant fly a kite but yet seem to enjoy falling out with others. These are the people that need a reality check, these are the ones who are dragging our sport down and sadly there is a few on this site.

this the best post yet and hits the nail right on the head

 

[blaz]

try and get young kids intrested in pigeon racing. i have a young kid very intrested in them he comes round a lot to see the birds with on or two of his mates in tow wee jack s his name. he started at breeding season i thought it would have worn off but no he is still coming round.so at my clubs AGM asked if he was to join would the club be prepared to subsidise his membership. i was told NO he would get all the same privileges as the other members so why subsidise him .he is only 8 years old so his 1st year in club would cost him £70 plus £3.20 a week tote. for me to tell his mum who is a single parent that is the cost and on top of that his feed bill his vaccination bill  his medicine bill for IE canker cocci wormier ect . then their is the loft clock and birds. well their is not much chance of her saying yes is their. so that my friends is what it would cost 1st attempt.  the 2nd attempt to get jack started in racing is still in the planing process .

      I WILL DO IT ONE WAY OR ANOTHER

then maybe one of his mates might take an interest .it does not solve the decline but evry little helps

[Guest]

 

Probably a whole lot of truth in this.... Computers, XBoxes, Playstaions etc are the ruination of youngsters today. Teachers even have a hell of a job getting little Johnny to kick a football in the playground these days, so what chance have we got :-/

although not currently in Scotland ,and not dis-agreeing with your post Bob. its not the pcs or x-boxes that are to blame . i can well remember friday night at the clubhouse ,great saturdays with my father waiting for the birds ,good saturdays when handshaking was going on . i am a pigeon fancier now ,yes ,but back then it was time with my father that was far more preciuos than the birds themselves.                              andy.

 

[Delboy]

My oldest boy is a class fancier and he has drifted away from the pigeons because he sees all the politics involved , me not getting in a club etc and he says it takes the appeal of the sport away.How true is this. For me , he had great potential in this sport and Im not just saying this because hes mine, anyone on here that knows him will verify how good he is.

[WulDon]

as we all know clubs and feds are declining in numbers, but more fanciers now race more pigeons which is keeping the birdages quite healthy so i wouldn't say the racing side is in an immediate decline.

 

the biggest problems seems to be that some members are becoming 'control freaks' within these smaller societies, and are actually trying to control the way fanciers are wanting to race there birds and literally telling them what they can and cannot do!

 

this is what is ruining the sport, causing divides, bitterness, proposing silly rules, edging fanciers to move clubs/feds... the list goes on!

 

unfortunately nearly every club & fed has them along with there little followers sticking together to push votes through at meetings etc., these are the fanciers who are unfortunately killing the sport and probably dont even realise it!!

 

will it ever change back? the only hope lies within newly formed clubs who apply new ground rules and reinstate harmony within the sport, pick n choose there members and move forward from there.

 

 

[Guest lenwadebob]

although not currently in Scotland ,and not dis-agreeing with your post Bob. its not the pcs or x-boxes that are to blame . i can well remember friday night at the clubhouse ,great saturdays with my father waiting for the birds ,good saturdays when handshaking was going on . i am a pigeon fancier now ,yes ,but back then it was time with my father that was far more preciuos than the birds themselves.                              andy.

 

And where was my Son "Gooner" when he was young lad. I won't answer that, will let him tell you when he comes on and reads it.   ;) He may be my Son but he is also my best mate

[REDROCKET]

try and get young kids intrested in pigeon racing. i have a young kid very intrested in them he comes round a lot to see the birds with on or two of his mates in tow wee jack s his name. he started at breeding season i thought it would have worn off but no he is still coming round.so at my clubs AGM asked if he was to join would the club be prepared to subsidise his membership. i was told NO he would get all the same privileges as the other members so why subsidise him .he is only 8 years old so his 1st year in club would cost him £70 plus £3.20 a week tote. for me to tell his mum who is a single parent that is the cost and on top of that his feed bill his vaccination bill  his medicine bill for IE canker cocci wormier ect . then their is the loft clock and birds. well their is not much chance of her saying yes is their. so that my friends is what it would cost 1st attempt.  the 2nd attempt to get jack started in racing is still in the planing process .

      I WILL DO IT ONE WAY OR ANOTHER

then maybe one of his mates might take an interest .it does not solve the decline but evry little helps

sound like its going to g cairns and partner for next season then gary lol

 

 

[Guest lenwadebob]

sound like its going to g cairns and partner for next season then gary lol

 

 

That was my thinking too  

[blaz]

hear is the future of our sport young jack and young people like him .holding one of my old trophy,s today .holding one of his own next year if i get my way. ON HIS OWN

 

[Thimbles]

Up to theage of 16 should be subsidised as long as there not racing the pigeons for someone else like there father trying to pull a fast 1

[Thimbles]

we give over 60s half price fees so why not give the young ones who are the future of the sport a HEALTHY  discount

[blaz]

Up to theage of 16 should be subsidised as long as there not racing the pigeons for someone else like there father trying to pull a fast 1

 

YOU ARE A 100% RIGHT  that is my view aswell .how are we to get youngsters in to racing when the price is so high for them to get started

[Guest bigda]

all club members should be made to get sponsors  from taxi firms, any one really  selling raffles the  lot  to make this affordable  for kids,   and the  big  boys made to pay into the four or five unions,  and Blackpool city council also pay   us  for going there,  and hoteliers who gain from us grain merchants, pigeon sellers, traders, loft builders  every thing pigeon related, should have  been nailed down a long time ago.   and its not to late  for  it to be  imposed  and if the dont give you dont buy from  simple  have a black list   that way  you become someone in sport as a unit

[Guest Gareth Rankin]

Lets not forget that we are no different to any other sport/hobby in the fact that they i.e. golf, bowling, snooker and fishing all lose members each year but they have always been in the position that they attract new members something which the pigeon fraternity has failed to do, the sport has to enhance its image and promote itself to all ages from kids to pensioners with a professional approach which has not been done in the past and look were the sport stands at present.

[just ask me]

great idea bring in kids  no doubt  but also belive we should be looking at promoting the sport to people that are retiring from work here we have a section of the population that are looking for a daily routine

 

things like retirement conventions etc

[fosseside]

My oldest boy is a class fancier and he has drifted away from the pigeons because he sees all the politics involved , me not getting in a club etc and he says it takes the appeal of the sport away.How true is this. For me , he had great potential in this sport and Im not just saying this because hes mine, anyone on here that knows him will verify how good he is.

 

Why not drop your name then and let the son fly them ,im sure he will get in a club   just a thought .

[PATTY BHOY]

IS SCOTTISH PIGEON RACING IN DECLINE AND IF IT IS WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO ABOUT IT WHEN YOU SEE CLUBS LIKE BLACKBURN IN WEST LOTHIAN GOING TO THE WALL IT IA CRYIN SHAME A WONCE GREAT CLUB GONE IT IS A RED LIGHT F0R US ALL CAST ASIDE THE DIFFERENCES OF OPINION PULL TOGETHER AND MAKE  THIS SPORT WORK BEFORE WE HAVE ANY MORE CASUALTIES WHAT DO ALL YOU FANCIERS THINK CONSTRUCTIVE IDEAS PLEASE

 

where will the remaining fanciers race.

[Thimbles]

IS SCOTTISH PIGEON RACING IN DECLINE AND IF IT IS WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO ABOUT IT WHEN YOU SEE CLUBS LIKE BLACKBURN IN WEST LOTHIAN GOING TO THE WALL IT IA CRYIN SHAME A WONCE GREAT CLUB GONE IT IS A RED LIGHT F0R US ALL CAST ASIDE THE DIFFERENCES OF OPINION PULL TOGETHER AND MAKE  THIS SPORT WORK BEFORE WE HAVE ANY MORE CASUALTIES WHAT DO ALL YOU FANCIERS THINK CONSTRUCTIVE IDEAS PLEASE

its in decline everywhere not just Scotland