dwh Posted November 22, 2009 Report Posted November 22, 2009 is pigeon racing in decline or the silly prices that one demands are too high ? pigeon racing is pedominately an old mans hobby , most that take it up are pensioners , they have 1 the avialbe free income and means to take part , along with free time thats the difference with a younger person who has family , as for prices of birds it comes down to basic market demands if there is demand there will always be supply , most auctions are there to get the maximum for a brd shop wisely and can get same for a fraction of the cost , auctioneers only get high prices when inflated by over zelous bidders all after the same birds its a buyers market its up to the individual how much any bird is worth yer right old yellow its us that pay the silly prices ! :-/ ask yourself how many sons do we see taking over from their dads now or even joining the ptrship
clyde Posted November 22, 2009 Report Posted November 22, 2009 just been told thats the end of west lothian fed
dwh Posted November 22, 2009 Report Posted November 22, 2009 in the not to distant future we 'll all probably find that clubs feds and the bigger combines amals etc will have to join up just to exist or sadly is it already happening?
Guest IB Posted November 22, 2009 Report Posted November 22, 2009 just been told thats the end of west lothian fed But not a loss of its former membership I hope. No offence, but look at the number of Feds that cover virtually the same area, too many organisations, not enough members?
clyde Posted November 22, 2009 Report Posted November 22, 2009 But not a loss of its former membership I hope. No offence, but look at the number of Feds that cover virtually the same area, too many organisations, not enough members? very true ian
clyde Posted November 22, 2009 Report Posted November 22, 2009 But not a loss of its former membership I hope. No offence, but look at the number of Feds that cover virtually the same area, too many organisations, not enough members? ian i think av fed cent fed nw fed wl fed should be 1 ?
Guest Craig A Posted November 22, 2009 Report Posted November 22, 2009 ian i think av fed cent fed nw fed wl fed should be 1 ? in your last post you said the west lothian post has packed in i think you've got to remeber that the av fed left the central fed, so do you think they should amalgamate and become one? I personally don't think so, this i a big problem in scotland, too many breakaways.
clyde Posted November 22, 2009 Report Posted November 22, 2009 in your last post you said the west lothian post has packed in i think you've got to remeber that the av fed left the central fed, so do you think they should amalgamate and become one? I personally don't think so, this i a big problem in scotland, too many breakaways. thats ur call mate
BLACK W F Posted November 22, 2009 Report Posted November 22, 2009 problem is the pigeon racing scene came more or less from the heavy industrial areas pits/shipyards/steelworks these types unfotunatly our past goverments shut most of them down with them went a lot of cultures and escapes its not only pigeon sport look at football hardly any quality players now or coming through why its down to no poverty what there was too many distractions now where i come from near every young lad had doos or whippets played football its all computers kids get everthing spoilt for choice in 10 years the doos sport will all be near gone look at the likes of the Aberdeen fed only half the size it was 10 years ago the dundee fed just examples look at the in fighting back stabbing that goes on just need to reed half the threads on here if we dont unite it will be gone we need to raise the profile like the KOLR is trying to do promote and publiscise the good points JMO but the problem with opinions is like ar$eholes every ones got one
Guest youngzimmy Posted November 22, 2009 Report Posted November 22, 2009 IT IS A VERY BLACK PICTURE THAT IS BEING PAINTED
Guest IB Posted November 22, 2009 Report Posted November 22, 2009 ian i think av fed cent fed nw fed wl fed should be 1 ? NW and Central have been partners for a long time, they were one fed until 1920's I think, there's been a few splits in Scotland since then. ;D Yes I agree there's scope for one fed buffering Midland / Lanarkshire in west and Pentland / Midlothian in the east.
Guest youngzimmy Posted November 22, 2009 Report Posted November 22, 2009 WELL LETS NOT JUST TALK ABOOT IT DAE SUMTHIN EVERYBOADY
blaz Posted November 22, 2009 Report Posted November 22, 2009 try and get young kids intrested in pigeon racing. i have a young kid very intrested in them he comes round a lot to see the birds with on or two of his mates in tow wee jack s his name. he started at breeding season i thought it would have worn off but no he is still coming round.so at my clubs AGM asked if he was to join would the club be prepared to subsidise his membership. i was told NO he would get all the same privileges as the other members so why subsidise him .he is only 8 years old so his 1st year in club would cost him £70 plus £3.20 a week tote. for me to tell his mum who is a single parent that is the cost and on top of that his feed bill his vaccination bill his medicine bill for IE canker cocci wormier ect . then their is the loft clock and birds. well their is not much chance of her saying yes is their. so that my friends is what it would cost 1st attempt. the 2nd attempt to get jack started in racing is still in the planing process . I WILL DO IT ONE WAY OR ANOTHER then maybe one of his mates might take an interest .it does not solve the decline but evry little helps :)plan B jacks nana has said she would pay his £3.20 a week club tote. i will get him set up with a small loft basket drinker and feeder and some yb,s. that would leave his £70 members fee and a clock . no that is sorted THANKS TO TIGER .he has pm me saying he will send jack a clock .he is also going to pay jacks 1st years membership £70 . out standing generosity TIGER YOU ARE A CREDIT TO THIS SPORT . so all is looking well for wee jack for next years yb season .
Guest youngzimmy Posted November 22, 2009 Report Posted November 22, 2009 GREAT GESTURE BY TIGER MORE LIKE HIM WE NEED TO HELP THE NEW STARTERS TO GET GOIN GOOD ON YOU TIGER
big blue bar Posted November 22, 2009 Report Posted November 22, 2009 theres not enough young people in the sport there will soon be no pigeon racing and pigeon men dont have to be on here to abuse eachother it happens in clubs all over the country during the racing season maybe if people stopped treating pigeon racing as a business and kept it to a hobby we would get on alot better your right our club has 6 members one is 79 other 2 are near 70 no young lads coming into it i find myself being the youngest at 40
WulDon Posted November 22, 2009 Report Posted November 22, 2009 bang on mate,a lot of doomen on pigeon basics speak with forked tongue,i must admit i am sometimes embarrassed by an element in the scottish fancy,i myself have taken a few kickings lately but will carry on with our great sport and let the doos do the talking. :) ;) agree there mate, in that very boat this year also!!!
Guest lenwadebob Posted November 22, 2009 Report Posted November 22, 2009 WELL LETS NOT JUST TALK ABOOT IT DAE SUMTHIN EVERYBOADY Like what :-/ Everyone talks but there seems to be no action. This is not only Scottish racing it's the same all over. ITS TIME WE ALL BIT THE BULLET AND TOOK STOCK OF THE SITUATION BEFORE IT PASSES US BY.
kirky cowboy Posted November 23, 2009 Report Posted November 23, 2009 hey dek its aboot time ye gid it up you where keek anyway ;D ;D ;D ;D only kiddin mate
BLACK W F Posted November 23, 2009 Report Posted November 23, 2009 many of the once strong clubs have either split or folded clubs that 10-20years ago boosted 40 plus flying lofts are down 6 loft clubs some clubs down to 3-4 members no young lads want to come into a sport that takes up so much time and effort plus there aint the land now ellotments ect for pigeon lofts for once instead of giving to charity we need to use the money to save the sport be fore its to late if not already
Guest KING BILLY Posted November 23, 2009 Report Posted November 23, 2009 if the club could sponcer 1 new srarts loft with doos feding and traning this would help a new start for 1 sesone a year but sadley this would not happen basicley there is a lot of members srtugling the know with the prise of keeping them there self but it is time i think to help the members who are still in the game before whe can help the new start if say the fed had a young bird sale to reduse the fed fee the club had a young bird sale to reduse club fees and if whe could get sponcerd of the feed merjents for bags of feed it all helps the fancers the now so lets try and look after the members whe have the now ;)
Delboy Posted November 23, 2009 Report Posted November 23, 2009 hey dek its aboot time ye gid it up you where keek anyway ;D ;D ;D ;D only kiddin mate ;D ;D ;D keek ;D ;D thats the most polite youve ever been Bobby ;D All the best in 2010 m8
dwh Posted November 23, 2009 Report Posted November 23, 2009 if the club could sponcer 1 new srarts loft with doos feding and traning this would help a new start for 1 sesone a year but sadley this would not happen basicley there is a lot of members srtugling the know with the prise of keeping them there self but it is time i think to help the members who are still in the game before whe can help the new start if say the fed had a young bird sale to reduse the fed fee the club had a young bird sale to reduse club fees and if whe could get sponcerd of the feed merjents for bags of feed it all helps the fancers the now so lets try and look after the members whe have the now ;) totally agree its not just finance its b/w hit nail on head its getting the young blood interested ond giving up the time to fly pigeons and like you say there's many very experienced andgood fanciers struggling to stay in the sport one of our aims should be to help keep these lads in the sport i know i'm not scottsh but tis thread really reflects on the sport in GB
Guest youngzimmy Posted November 23, 2009 Report Posted November 23, 2009 I SUPPOSE IT DOES REFLECT ON THE SPORT IN THE WHOLE OF GB AND WE DO NEED YOUNG BLOOD BUT I THINK SMALL FEDERATIONS OR FEDERATIONS THAT ARE SMALLER THAN THEY USED TO BE WE REALY WANT TO COME TOGETHER AND WORK TOGETHER AS ONE STRONG UNIT INSTEAD OF SMALL FRAGMENTED UNITS IT MAKES FINANCIAL SENCE I THINK IT WOULD MAKE THINGS A LOT MORE FINANCIALY VIABLE FOR ALL IF WE CAN LEAVE OUR DIFFERENCES AT HOME AND WORK FOR THE COMMON GOOD OF ALL
alex wight Posted November 23, 2009 Report Posted November 23, 2009 Until the people involved within our great sport, start to pull in the same direction, our sport will implode. With some of the goings on in our sport, is it any wonder why its failing? Jealousy is a huge part of it. Respect has gone out the window in some areas, which is very sad. The system that Ian Mckay is adopting is a step in the right direction, and he has to be commended for his efforts, which i will be supporting again for 2010. It would be fantastic if were all to be respected for our own opinions and not taken the wrong way. Is the future bright for our great sport, mmmm its up to us to make sure it is, come on lets get it sorted. NOW! not when its too late
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