dwh Posted January 31, 2014 Report Posted January 31, 2014 Only people that spout the rubbish and try to put down any advantages are those in the East, and or great Location. Most with a few brain cells just ignore them and their' stupidity because it insults ones intelligence. :emoticon-0136-giggle:
greenlands Posted January 31, 2014 Report Posted January 31, 2014 we give 800-950 in a 2mile club radius 59 yards either way we feked and ybs we don't stand an earthlyDavey my birds fly over lofts four mile West and I'm on the same measurement give or take a few yards.Our club Sec. gets 7 mile off me on a breaking up point off great circle he gets 3 mile.Enjoy the birds mate,some people win but you know otherwise.My mate will phone me and say your birds are on the way and I give him well over a mile. :emoticon-0138-thinking: :emoticon-0138-thinking:
blackdog Posted January 31, 2014 Report Posted January 31, 2014 Davey my birds fly over lofts four mile West and I'm on the same measurement give or take a few yards.Our club Sec. gets 7 mile off me on a breaking up point off great circle he gets 3 mile.Enjoy the birds mate,some people win but you know otherwise.My mate will phone me and say your birds are on the way and I give him well over a mile. :emoticon-0138-thinking: :emoticon-0138-thinking: :emoticon-0138-thinking:
dwh Posted January 31, 2014 Report Posted January 31, 2014 THATS IT M8 OUR YOUNG BIRDS GO UP IN GROUPS 1ST 4 RACES SO THEY GO WITH THE DRAG ALL BEING FAIR AND THEY COME STRAIGHT OUT THEN ALL LOFTS GET JUSTICE AND ITS STRANGE RACING THESE DAY BIRDS COME OFF THE LOW SIDE NEARLY EVERY WEEK DESPITE THE DIRECTION OF THE WIND WHICH BENEFITS THE BACK LOFTS SO IF YOUR BIRDS GET PAST YOUR GIVING IT 3 TIMESOFF TOPIC A BIT I KNOW BUT TOUCHING ON OUR LIBBING YB'S IN GROUPS YOU GET YOUR BIRDS OVER THE TOP THEY MEET THE FURTHER FLYING BATCH'S COMING BACK !!!!!!!!AND WE WONDER WHY YB'S ARE REPORTED SO FAR NORTH HOPE THIS MAKES SENSE :emoticon-0138-thinking: :emoticon-0138-thinking:
JohnQuinn Posted January 31, 2014 Report Posted January 31, 2014 Personally I think races are won in the loft, especially sprint races. When birds are motivated they don't hang about when the strings are cut, they get off their mark sharpish and imo by the time they have covered the first 20 mls or so they have the race won. In long distance races with velocities under 1200ypm the best doos win when racing into their respective area's, Iin National racing the wind and racepoint have a far greater influence on the Open result.
dwh Posted January 31, 2014 Report Posted January 31, 2014 Personally I think races are won in the loft, especially sprint races. When birds are motivated they don't hang about when the strings are cut, they get off their mark sharpish and imo by the time they have covered the first 20 mls or so they have the race won. In long distance races with velocities under 1200ypm the best doos win when racing into their respective area's, Iin National racing the wind and racepoint have a far greater influence on the Open result.THINK YOU RIGHT IN OLD BIRDS JOHN
Dooheed 5 Posted January 31, 2014 Report Posted January 31, 2014 I imo! say doos dont fly in a straight line ,they are subject to prevailing winds so there fore when winds blow from the west towards the east in North Fed the birds fly in a ark from race point ,first drop Peterhead area .Now if that being the case Peterhead to Banff,and Peterhead to Turriff are virtualy same distance so therefore overfly given for nothing ,you do have to remember this is my opinion .Your nae related to BIGDA by ony chance are ye ? lol
philg50 Posted January 31, 2014 Author Report Posted January 31, 2014 For all i know could be we are a Jock Thamsons bairns,but read 12 posts back and you will see what am on about or do you give anyone else's opinions a chance to be debated.
BLACK W F Posted January 31, 2014 Report Posted January 31, 2014 many years ago when I was a lad I was at a club presentation the great Ayton Marshall was chief guest in his speech he stated any one flying this far off the east coast has very little chance and no way would he race pigeons this far off the coast and it was Newcastle he was talking about food for thought
Dooheed 5 Posted January 31, 2014 Report Posted January 31, 2014 For all i know could be we are a Jock Thamsons bairns,but read 12 posts back and you will see what am on about or do you give anyone else's opinions a chance to be debated.FACT is i know exactly what yer on aboot ! Ye hina even put a doo in a race basket yet ye say and already your Bleeting excuses for being Beat !! that's quite sad ! Yer location and the wind direction on the race day is sometimes going ti be against ye and sometimes in favour of ye ! the sooner you get used ti that the better and if yer still nae happy ye can always MOVE !! PS; Awe the best fin ye do start racing Who the F is Jock thamson ?
Roland Posted January 31, 2014 Report Posted January 31, 2014 True Alan. One only need to look at the Nationals and the wind to see what area's dominate. Seems to me that ALL the best flyers have by some quirk of nature been born in these locations. :emoticon-0138- :rolleyes:
BLACK W F Posted January 31, 2014 Report Posted January 31, 2014 FACT is i know exactly what yer on aboot ! Ye hina even put a doo in a race basket yet ye say and already your Bleeting excuses for being Beat !! that's quite sad ! Yer location and the wind direction on the race day is sometimes going ti be against ye and sometimes in favour of ye ! the sooner you get used ti that the better and if yer still nae happy ye can always MOVE !! PS; Awe the best fin ye do start racing Who the F is Jock thamson ?chris your being very unfair to the lad u know and I know up to the borders in west winds the coast cleans up but every dog has his day and yes longer distance and east wind changes all that but we are dominated by west winds and its a fact of life but most people don't choose a position to race from its dependent on their work or family ties best of luck for this season
dal2 Posted January 31, 2014 Report Posted January 31, 2014 chris your being very unfair to the lad u know and I know up to the borders in west winds the coast cleans up but every dog has his day and yes longer distance and east wind changes all that but we are dominated by west winds and its a fact of life but most people don't choose a position to race from its dependent on their work or family ties best of luck for this season Thats all that needs said on the overfly question
philg50 Posted January 31, 2014 Author Report Posted January 31, 2014 So with that last comments Doohead i take it you dont agree ,and i have put a doo in a basket that being in 1980s through to 1995 - 1996 and as for an excuse for being beat ,no .As i said thats my thoughts on the subject of influence of the wind on results .I will be taking part in races to be there or there about and hopefully get a turn as we all do .All the best for the season.
Lennut Tar Posted February 1, 2014 Report Posted February 1, 2014 True Alan. One only need to look at the Nationals and the wind to see what area's dominate. Seems to me that ALL the best flyers have by some quirk of nature been born in these locations. :emoticon-0138- :rolleyes: Strange that Roland, but history tells us so "Unfortunately".Enjoy.
Dooheed 5 Posted February 1, 2014 Report Posted February 1, 2014 So with that last comments Doohead i take it you dont agree ,and i have put a doo in a basket that being in 1980s through to 1995 - 1996 and as for an excuse for being beat ,no .As i said thats my thoughts on the subject of influence of the wind on results .I will be taking part in races to be there or there about and hopefully get a turn as we all do .All the best for the season.Look mate I do agree wi ye that wind direction makes a difference on results ! that f-ing obvious but if yer tryin ti emply that lofts in the east only ever win because of yer so called prevailing west winds ! that's P-sh ! End of !!
paddymac Posted February 1, 2014 Report Posted February 1, 2014 Short to middle distance races then if your at the back of the fed then you will always be kindly measured, i say this as any cross wind at all and pigeons will get pushed of there natural flight path home, now when you add the drag of the doos to this then the pull will be to the center to back of a fed, thus meaning that the fanciers towards the front of the fed will not dominate the result compared to that of members of a fed towards the back. Pigeons even when conditions do not favour them can still win to any part of a federation, but they have to be exceptional to be able to do this. Have included a diagram, i hope i do not offend anyone as it is not my intention and if i am stating the obvious then please don't take offence. This diagram is just an example and not of any federation in particular. If only every race was a tail or head wind, then pigeon racing would be that little bit closer to perfection.Good post Gareth :emoticon-0137-clapping:
grdkeith Posted February 1, 2014 Report Posted February 1, 2014 we live where we live !! get over it and get on with it :cry-blow:
Guest chad3646 Posted February 1, 2014 Report Posted February 1, 2014 we live where we live !! get over it and get on with it :cry-blow: very true,just get on with this great sport of pigeon racing
robbiedoo. Posted February 1, 2014 Report Posted February 1, 2014 Look mate I do agree wi ye that wind direction makes a difference on results ! that f-ing obvious but if yer tryin ti emply that lofts in the east only ever win because of yer so called prevailing west winds ! that's P-sh ! End of !! Chris you got to admit Peterhead is the best fed posison to fly doos in to all you need to do is send and you will be on the fed result is you,se are even a half decent fancier lol
Dooheed 5 Posted February 1, 2014 Report Posted February 1, 2014 we live where we live !! get over it and get on with it :cry-blow:EXCACTLY !!
robbiedoo. Posted February 1, 2014 Report Posted February 1, 2014 EXCACTLY !! I was gan to wind you up but thought better nae incase you spit yer nashers oot. Look at the fed results you will see the mapper is in the golden mile but at the same time check the times the first doos are east side compared to the time they are in the west side very little in difference which shows they haven't came up the coast they are getting beat by overfly some o the times . Oh how I wid luv to race ma doos in Peterhead lol
BLACK W F Posted February 1, 2014 Report Posted February 1, 2014 I was gan to wind you up but thought better nae incase you spit yer nashers oot. Look at the fed results you will see the mapper is in the golden mile but at the same time check the times the first doos are east side compared to the time they are in the west side very little in difference which shows they haven't came up the coast they are getting beat by overfly some o the times . Oh how I wid luv to race ma doos in Peterhead lolwell robbie u certainly call it how it is some one got to be in the best position its life
Darnaway Posted February 1, 2014 Report Posted February 1, 2014 Looking at the results for the Glasgow Fed where we have an East & West section the West section times in more than their fair share despite the normal prevailing West wind when you would expect the East of the Federation to dominate so the question must be asked does the larger birdcage for the West section play a part do they have better pigeons ?
philg50 Posted February 1, 2014 Author Report Posted February 1, 2014 I am happy where i live, and happy to fly and keep pigeons at where i am at ,and yes i will get on with it under any exsisting rule,but this being a forum (A meeting of a group of people to debate &discuss a shared topic)i asked the members opinion,and gave my own ,about this subject implying nothing ,just shareing my thoughts.
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