Guest Gareth Rankin Posted October 14, 2013 Report Posted October 14, 2013 For the first time ever i have had to suffer the anger/shock of having to go into my pigeon loft and see the damage that can be done by some of the British wildlife, have lost so far today 6 stock pigeons to Mink/stoat, a sickening feeling that no one should have to suffer. Is it now time to lift the ban on Hunting, as since it came into force in 2004, all you seem to hear is fanciers loosing many racing pigeons to the mink/Stoat, its become more and more common since the bans implementation. Would lifting the ban help control the Mink/stoat population, not an expert when it comes to how nature/wildlife works within the British isles, so would be interested to hear opinions of others who are more knowledgeable..
OLDYELLOW Posted October 14, 2013 Report Posted October 14, 2013 Getting very common these day's hope you nail it , sorry to see you've lost birds like this
hotrod Posted October 14, 2013 Report Posted October 14, 2013 Just the other day Eddie Harrison. Had bother with a mink , think at last count it was 22/0 to the mink , and yes the ban should be lifted , years ago you hardly ever seen a fox , now I see more of them than dogs in the street .
Delboy Posted October 14, 2013 Report Posted October 14, 2013 Devastation to both Eddie Harrison and Gareth Rankin in the last 24 hours through these mink bassas. Also had phone call from wee Jamie McGowan who was done a few weeks ago with one. There everywhere nowadays and what a mess they are making to teams of pigeons. Gutted for ye both.
BLACK W F Posted October 14, 2013 Report Posted October 14, 2013 Just the other day Eddie Harrison. Had bother with a mink , think at last count it was 22/0 to the mink , and yes the ban should be lifted , years ago you hardly ever seen a fox , now I see more of them than dogs in the street .when it got into me years ago it killed 32 out of 36 and was still in the loft I caught it and fk I had revenge
billt Posted October 14, 2013 Report Posted October 14, 2013 The mink is not a British mammal, many were released by the "do gooders" when there were mink farms in the UK, they have no protection from hunting and are classed as vermin, some areas they are trapping them as they also hunt in water and are responsible for the demise of the water vole, hope you manage to trap it
Delboy Posted October 14, 2013 Report Posted October 14, 2013 Just read it is legal to cull minks in UK.
greenlands Posted October 14, 2013 Report Posted October 14, 2013 http://www.diy-pest-control.co.uk/mink-pestid-61.php&filter=control Sorry about that Gareth,they are frightened of nothing.
R.A.M.C.63 Posted October 14, 2013 Report Posted October 14, 2013 Sorry to hear about losses and defo hearing it happening more often, dont know much about these killer,s Is their any info you can give fanciers how to avoid them getting in, do they chew their way in ?? are they good climbers ??? how big gap do they need to get in ?? know they big danger for country side lofts are they moving into towns ?? Alan i hope it was,nt in ur present location ?
peter pandy Posted October 14, 2013 Report Posted October 14, 2013 Stoat & Weasel are not protected species. Trap the lot of them especially if you know where they are entering the loft.
R.A.M.C.63 Posted October 14, 2013 Report Posted October 14, 2013 The mink is not a British mammal, many were released by the "do gooders" when there were mink farms in the UK, they have no protection from hunting and are classed as vermin, some areas they are trapping them as they also hunt in water and are responsible for the demise of the water vole, hope you manage to trap it have only only ever seen them near the river when used to fish at nite, thout they nested in river bank,
billt Posted October 14, 2013 Report Posted October 14, 2013 I don't think the return of fox hunting would be an advantage, maybe the opposite, less foxes more food available
bullcock Posted October 14, 2013 Report Posted October 14, 2013 Sorry to read this Gareth, no fancier should have to see this, a cat jumped four feet up and squeezed its paw through a 1" gap and grabbed one of my stock hens and pulled it part through and eat half its rear end, we found it's anal duct stuck to blooded feathers on the ground, we had to put her away.
geordie1234 Posted October 14, 2013 Report Posted October 14, 2013 Sorry to see this Gareth only last week a fox got in a fanciers lofts too
eastcoaster Posted October 14, 2013 Report Posted October 14, 2013 For the first time ever i have had to suffer the anger/shock of having to go into my pigeon loft and see the damage that can be done by some of the British wildlife, have lost so far today 6 stock pigeons to Mink/stoat, a sickening feeling that no one should have to suffer. Is it now time to lift the ban on Hunting, as since it came into force in 2004, all you seem to hear is fanciers loosing many racing pigeons to the mink/Stoat, its become more and more common since the bans implementation. Would lifting the ban help control the Mink/stoat population, not an expert when it comes to how nature/wildlife works within the British isles, so would be interested to hear opinions of others who are more knowledgeable..If its a stoat it will be back and surprised it never killed the rest unless that is all there were in the shed ,it take a decent gap for the mink ti get in but a stoat and a weasel will get through 1inch wire mesh , shitting myself as my avery is done with it . Hope you get the bassa. Gamekeepers used to kill stoats and hang them on the fence until do gooders put there oar in .
Walter swanston Posted October 14, 2013 Report Posted October 14, 2013 Try Solway Feeders Mk.4spring trap
Guest Gareth Rankin Posted October 14, 2013 Report Posted October 14, 2013 If its a stoat it will be back and surprised it never killed the rest unless that is all there were in the shed ,it take a decent gap for the mink ti get in but a stoat and a weasel will get through 1inch wire mesh , shitting myself as my avery is done with it . Hope you get the bassa. Gamekeepers used to kill stoats and hang them on the fence until do gooders put there oar in .Had approx 30 in that loft, 15 cocks and 15 hens, it killed 2 cocks and 4 hens, it took the heads of the 2 cocks, just nicked the necks of 2 hens and had a right good chew at the other 2 hens heads. Can only imagine that something must have disturbed it. Although it doesn't feel like it, i know in a way that im lucky as other friends have just about every doo in there dookit killed by these buggars. Killed the n01 stock cock "22299" who was coming into his 19th year + other top class bred pigeons that i had purchased from Germany, Wales and England. Why are these strikes happening more often ? Where in the food chain are the Minks/Stoats and weasels ? http://www.diy-pest-control.co.uk/mink-pestid-61.php&filter=control Sorry about that Gareth,they are frightened of nothing.Thanks Lindsay, a very good piece of info.
nagid Posted October 14, 2013 Report Posted October 14, 2013 For the first time ever i have had to suffer the anger/shock of having to go into my pigeon loft and see the damage that can be done by some of the British wildlife, have lost so far today 6 stock pigeons to Mink/stoat, a sickening feeling that no one should have to suffer. Is it now time to lift the ban on Hunting, as since it came into force in 2004, all you seem to hear is fanciers loosing many racing pigeons to the mink/Stoat, its become more and more common since the bans implementation. Would lifting the ban help control the Mink/stoat population, not an expert when it comes to how nature/wildlife works within the British isles, so would be interested to hear opinions of others who are more knowledgeable.gutted for you big man your lucks got to change soon expletive remove
billt Posted October 14, 2013 Report Posted October 14, 2013 Hi Gareth, They are all members of the mustelid family as are the Polecat, Pine marten and the Otter, also the ferret, They are a major pest to poultry and pheasant keepers but will kill a lot of wildlife including most small mammals and clear birds nests, the only good thing I can think about them is they are great rat catchers
Guest Gareth Rankin Posted October 14, 2013 Report Posted October 14, 2013 Hi Gareth, They are all members of the mustelid family as are the Polecat, Pine marten and the Otter, also the ferret, They are a major pest to poultry and pheasant keepers but will kill a lot of wildlife including most small mammals and clear birds nests, the only good thing I can think about them is they are great rat catchersThanks for the info, but what preys on them that in turn keeps there numbers down ?
sammy Posted October 14, 2013 Report Posted October 14, 2013 Thanks for the info, but what preys on them that in turn keeps there numbers down ? the wee terrier that yir getting from jim cullen provided its kept out side and yi wont get anything better and thats a FACT
billt Posted October 14, 2013 Report Posted October 14, 2013 Thanks for the info, but what preys on them that in turn keeps there numbers down ? Only us and dogs I'm afraid mate so they have got pretty much a free hand I think game-keepers were keeping their numbers down but that seems to be a dying trade these days
Guest Gareth Rankin Posted October 14, 2013 Report Posted October 14, 2013 Only us and dogs I'm afraid mate so they have got pretty much a free hand I think game-keepers were keeping their numbers down but that seems to be a dying trade these daysThanks for your reply the wee terrier that yir getting from jim cullen provided its kept out side and yi wont get anything better and thats a FACT Yes, should be here by the end of the week and it will be getting kept outside, though with foxes / minks around, then it will need a little bit of protection for the first few months.
sammy Posted October 14, 2013 Report Posted October 14, 2013 Thanks for your reply Yes, should be here by the end of the week and it will be getting kept outside, though with foxes / minks around, then it will need a little bit of protection for the first few months. ONLY PROTECTION IT WILL NEED IS VACCINATION ,WOULD CHECK ABOUT GARDEN FOR SIGNS OF RATS ALSO BIGMAN YI NEVER KNOW
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