Barcelona Into Scotland

[dal2]

How many other birds have flown over 1,000 mls into Scotland ?

 

 

 

Wilson Nobles Sir Lancelot 1,260 mls Rome

 

Violet Eyes 1st Palamos into Scotland 1,113 mls

Young Violet 1^stover 1,000 mls to Scotland Perpignan 1,058 mls

 

Perfection 1^st to Scotland 1,113mls

 

(The great John Ellis introduced this line to a granddaughter of

 

Wellbank Reliable to produce 2755 the sire of the great Wellbank Lass)

 

Cock o the North bred andraced by Albert Bruce 1,141 miles from Barcelonato Fraserburgh

 

ANY OTHERS

Jimmy Graham did it from Palamos tae Ecclefechan but no sure how far that is??

[WulDon]

Aye, You were in your school shorts at the time.

 

 

LIAR!

[clockman]

D.SMITH DUNNING

G.BRIGGS DUNDEE

J.ALEXANDER MONIFIETH

KENNEDY IRVINE

A&A TAYLOR DUNDEE

J.BRUCE ARBROATH

S.ROBERTS WINCHBURGH

G.GAULD CRIEFF

P.SAUNDERS CRIEFF

R.MARSHALL DUNDEE

M.WHITE PAISLEY

G.OGILVEY&SONS CHEQ HEN FLEW IT 3 TIMES

BERT STEWART CARNOUSTIE

[Guest LBuddle]

I take my hat off to pigeons that can fly that sort of distance.

Just wondering though, what has been the highest Velo of a 900-1100 mile bird into Scotland?

[DJWa]

D.SMITH DUNNING

G.BRIGGS DUNDEE

J.ALEXANDER MONIFIETH

KENNEDY IRVINE

A&A TAYLOR DUNDEE

J.BRUCE ARBROATH

S.ROBERTS WINCHBURGH

G.GAULD CRIEFF

P.SAUNDERS CRIEFF

R.MARSHALL DUNDEE

M.WHITE PAISLEY

G.OGILVEY&SONS CHEQ HEN FLEW IT 3 TIMES

BERT STEWART CARNOUSTIE

was there not a bird flew upto wick that held the record for furthest flown

[Rooster J. Cogburn]

How many other birds have flown over 1,000 mls into Scotland ?

 

 

 

Wilson Nobles Sir Lancelot 1,260 mls Rome

 

Violet Eyes 1st Palamos into Scotland 1,113 mls

 

Young Violet 1^stover 1,000 mls to Scotland Perpignan 1,058 mls

 

Perfection 1^st to Scotland 1,113mls

 

(The great John Ellis introduced this line to a granddaughter of

 

Wellbank Reliable to produce 2755 the sire of the great Wellbank Lass)

 

Cock o the North bred andraced by Albert Bruce 1,141 miles from Barcelonato Fraserburgh

 

ANY OTHERS

 

Did the Black Rocket come from this same line??663 miles on the day of lib-1st North Section Rennes

[PIGEON_MAN]

was there not a bird flew upto wick that held the record for furthest flown

1976 From Palamos to Wick 1173 miles bird owned by Rosie and Bruce.

[bullcock]

How many other birds have flown over 1,000 mls into Scotland ?

 

 

 

Wilson Nobles Sir Lancelot 1,260 mls Rome

 

Violet Eyes 1st Palamos into Scotland 1,113 mls

 

Young Violet 1^stover 1,000 mls to Scotland Perpignan 1,058 mls

 

Perfection 1^st to Scotland 1,113mls

 

(The great John Ellis introduced this line to a granddaughter of

 

Wellbank Reliable to produce 2755 the sire of the great Wellbank Lass)

 

Cock o the North bred andraced by Albert Bruce 1,141 miles from Barcelonato Fraserburgh

 

ANY OTHERS

Didnt Forsyth of Paisley hold the record for flying Barcelona 1000 miles ?

[JohnQuinn]

D.SMITH DUNNING

G.BRIGGS DUNDEE

J.ALEXANDER MONIFIETH

KENNEDY IRVINE

A&A TAYLOR DUNDEE

J.BRUCE ARBROATH

S.ROBERTS WINCHBURGH

G.GAULD CRIEFF

P.SAUNDERS CRIEFF

R.MARSHALL DUNDEE

M.WHITE PAISLEY

G.OGILVEY&SONS CHEQ HEN FLEW IT 3 TIMES

BERT STEWART CARNOUSTIE

 

If that many have flown 1000 miles it must be EASY enough so i'll no bother way it

[clockman]

If that many have flown 1000 miles it must be EASY enough so i'll no bother way it

it was y/birds

[Novice]

Didnt Forsyth of Paisley hold the record for flying Barcelona 1000 miles ?

 

Not sure if he did but a pigeon called Barcelona Blue associated with Davie springs to mind.

 

Alan Raeside from Irvine held some sort of 1000 mile record with a pigeon called "the Conqueror" I think.

[yeboah]

WOW give it ago Boys.

I must say though it hard enough to clock early from Barcelona International from about 30,000 birds down here on the south coast of England.

Barcelona to us is 676 miles.

we were Lucky enough to Win 3rd Section, 5th Open in 2011

Lee

Luck did not come into it,Really Good Pigeon,Really Top Performance,Well Done atb Mick.

[billt]

Don't think you can train a bird for that distance, they need to be fit, yes, but they have to be bred to have that mileage in them

[St Finnan Loft]

Did the Black Rocket come from this same line??663 miles on the day of lib-1st North Section Rennes

 

Did the Black Rocket come from this same line??663 miles on the day of lib-1st North Section Rennes

[St Finnan Loft]

YES Black Rocket 1st Fed only day bird Ist North Sec 11th SNFC Rennes 663mls 7,953 birds 17 hrs 40 min on wing

Wilson Noble had a lot more birds of this calibre.

 

Joe Murphy has done an article on Wilson in the past worth a read.

[robbiedoo.]

YES Black Rocket 1st Fed only day bird Ist North Sec 11th SNFC Rennes 663mls 7,953 birds 17 hrs 40 min on wing

Wilson Noble had a lot more birds of this calibre.

 

Joe Murphy has done an article on Wilson in the past worth a read.

 

WILSON IS IN THE MIDDLE OF TRYING TO REBUILD A TEAM OF LONG DISTANCE DOOS AGAIN AFTER A LONG ILLNESS. HERES HOPING HE GETS BACK THERE RESULTS AND HEALTH WISE

[shugf2003]

The McAlpines

 

The McAlpines were one of the most feared strains in the history of pigeon racing in Britain. John McAlpine started in the sport in the early 1890’s and his base derived from the Stanhopes of Barrett, Baker, Whitmore and Toft. In the 1912 Scottish National from Rennes a distance of 545 miles the McAlpines took 7th place. In the disastrous race of 1913, with only 14 birds

timed on the day, Johns birds were 3rd and 6th National. In the 1914 race, the McAlpine loft clocked 3 birds in the first 30 out of only 6 birds sent. In that smash of 1914 it was a black chequer hen that took 3rd place. The same hen took 19th place again and her ring number was 6638 and she was inbred to J. L. Bakers, 'Little Wonder', a pigeon that was destined to play a crucial part in the forming of the McAlpine strain.

Then, the to be well known Dr. Anderson bought John McAlpine’s complete team of birds with McAlpine as his loft manager who looked after birds during Andersons war time service. There were races during the war from inland race points but after the war the S.N.F.C. returned to the European mainland and once again held the national from Rennes where in a race when

only 2 birds were timed on the day, Andersons birds were1st, 5th, 11th, 16th, 19th and 23rd.

Anderson was to make many trips to Belgium and on these trips John McAlpines son, Willie, accompanied him where they often visited the famous Dr. Bricoux of Jolimont and across the border in France visited another champion, the great Paul Sion . Many of the best racers and breeders from these masters found their way back to Scotland to enhance the quality of

Andersons lofts.

Using the best of the imported pigeons as crosses into the lofts the Anderson family was formed. Alas after innumerable successes and because of bad health Dr. Anderson retired in 1948 but before he left he gave the McAlpines the pick of his loft. They carefully selected from the old Stanhope family and only the best of the Sion, Bricoux and Le Fijnen bloodlines. Out of

these bloodlines came great Surp 50 13315, the Barcelona Blue who flew 7 times over 500 miles then as an 8 year old sent to Barcelona 1036 miles, breaking the British 1000 mile record in 1958.Even a grandson of this great pigeon flew Barcelona confirming that blood will tell. And when we think of other outstanding marathon flights into Scotland by others for example Jim

Moffat and D Forsyth the the records show the influence of the blood from the Armadale lofts.In fact all of the Forsyth pigeons came from the McAlpines.

There were many other great pigeons and great triumphs over the decades under the expert know how of both John and Willie McAlpine and the strains achievements was honoured in 1992 when Willie McAlpine became Scotlands Fancier of the Year. Many Scottish national winners contain their bloodlines. Sadly on the 7th December 1994 at the age of 86 Willie McAlpine

passed away but the legend continues for the birds of the unique partnership of father and son McAlpine are still talked about wherever fanciers congregate and there are those who claim a continuity of bloodlines. If so, then they possess a goldmine in pigeon stock terms.

[St Finnan Loft]

Not sure if he did but a pigeon called Barcelona Blue associated with Davie springs to mind.

 

Alan Raeside from Irvine held some sort of 1000 mile record with a pigeon called "the Conqueror" I think.

 

Yes 1,009 miles vel 687 or 24 mph

[Guest LBuddle]

Yes 1,009 miles vel 687 or 24 mph

 

Pretty good for that distance!!!!

[Guest Tooshy Boy]

THINK IT WOULD BE GREAT .///

[midnight_son]

I notice from the race program that the BBC has a charity race from Fougeres in early July. That will be a nice distance into central Scotland - around 500-520 miles. Unfortunately it is likely to clash with an SNFC weekend (subject to the race program being set). Maybe the SNFC could joint convoy with them ?

 

Later in July they have a race from Bordeaux which could be an option for those wanting to try something a bit further. It comes after the SNFC programme ends and will be about 775 miles to central Scotland. I think I'd be more inclined to try that one than to try Barcelona as it would still just about be a race at that distance rather than just an endurance test.

[Henrik]

Gonna have a look at the BBC stand when I,m down at Blackpool.

[just ask me]

great read about fantastic birds lads well done

[Guest Tooshy Boy]

I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT COMING BACK.///

[knoxjn]

i flew nantes with the bbc from longniddry in the nineties had to send it down in a a box we were at selby the same weekend trained him myself loved it timed him on the second day late in the afternoon sent him back to our own nantes and just missed out he was a jan aarden