I agree with last post if we are to fight this we have to think back to nature ie, are we providing their food when they most need it nesting, rearing ,we start thinking about letting birds out ,training,racing at this time ,put back old bird racing ,combine some old and young bird races ,change our ideas ,its 12 year since i raced and nothing has changed in this subject since i was last in this position ,either work through feds and orginisations to change things or there is little point in moaning on year in year out !!!