Well on my concerns even if off topic ,do all large orginisations ie SHU,IHU,RPRA meet ,and also put enough money or time into overcoming this problem ,do Federations delagates up and down the country meet with other feds, delegates ,maybe the donations made through pigeon orginisations should be redirected to fighting this cause ,how about a fund for this ,i am speaking about 30 year mine nothing changed with this ,and as for fed doing f--k all i should have said Federations & affiliated orginisations.The only way to overcome this is with change in law.It also seems if you dont go to a Fed meeting you have no right to an opinion ,that seems to be the impression you are giving out well,if i am fit i will if not i will continue to discuss and give my opinion on site in this forum.