BLACK W F Posted December 17, 2017 Report Posted December 17, 2017 Word is North Fed will be offering to convoy Aberdeen from the English Racepoints. Makes sense in many ways...costs etc, so who would decide yes or no? would it be the race committee or the general members?Fred Aberdeen members put birds on at Inverurie last season as trainers and the same applies this year as long as there is room and we have crates to put them into but they will need to arrange this with both the fed president and the Inverurie club sec also if they go on as a fed that's for both feds to work out the points but I,m sure they will be speaking once we and u guys have got our race programs sorted out
clockman Posted December 18, 2017 Report Posted December 18, 2017 Dundee clubs are the only fanciers competing and they are nae near the gramps Angus fed too.
BLACK W F Posted December 18, 2017 Report Posted December 18, 2017 The Grampian Combine was a great success set up by Ally Sim Inverurie a good idea and it worked well TILL ally on his own thoughts for some reason suggested we invite the Dundee clubs to liberate with us for more BIRDSAGE and we were all for it UNTILL we found out AFTER THE FIRST liberation we were Flying AGAINST the Dundee fanciers and oor ars was oot the window for the results . I remember speaking to Bruce McKenzie Dundee years after who ran it after we all backed out about giving us back the cups we had got from sponsers and donations and his reply was we had more chance of being struck wi lightning than them being returnedGordon the combine was set up with the Dundee and Angus feds at the start of the Grampian combine before that most years the Aberdeen fed and north fed went together highland fed aswell for the 3 longest races even then their was infighting from both feds from certain members who never wanted to go together always been the same and will never change for some
dooman Posted December 18, 2017 Report Posted December 18, 2017 The first Grampian combine was set up from Stonehaven north to encourage racing between Aberdeen fed and north of Scotland fed.It was only later that Ally Sim decided to invite other Feds too join. To start with it was a great success but the beginning of the end was when they let the birds off from Hastings Dundee and Angus where clear Stonehaven north was foged in it was a case of F- - k you Jack wear all right.
BLACK W F Posted December 18, 2017 Report Posted December 18, 2017 The first Grampian combine was set up from Stonehaven north to encourage racing between Aberdeen fed and north of Scotland fed.It was only later that Ally Sim decided to invite other Feds too join. To start with it was a great success but the beginning of the end was when they let the birds off from Hastings Dundee and Angus where clear Stonehaven north was foged in it was a case of F- - k you Jack wear all right.there was never a comb set up between Aberdeen and the north it was feds going together the comb was set up with the 4 feds the 1st meeting was at Forfar before that there was only meetings held to get the 2 feds to go together I well remember the meeting with Aberdeen fed officials and north fed which was held at inver cottage Inverurie and that was the first year A J Sim was fed president
Williedoo Posted December 18, 2017 Report Posted December 18, 2017 You are wrong Allan, Dundee was not in it from the start and the Combine meetings were held in Ally Sims House, i know this as i attended the meetings.
BLACK W F Posted December 18, 2017 Report Posted December 18, 2017 You are wrong Allan, Dundee was not in it from the start and the Combine meetings were held in Ally Sims House, i know this as i attended the meetings.Willie it was only for fed convoying I was there also as was Sandy Robertson and Colin Colin McKeon u are thinking of the one later on with u and jobby and I was at that one also and Dundee and Angus had been approached
philg50 Posted December 18, 2017 Report Posted December 18, 2017 IMO i still think its a good idea Aberdeen & North of Scotland and lads above if they want transporting together and racing together when ever poss ,birdage wise it would help all concerned ,it was a good idea at the time and still could be Ali Sim set it up to enhance the racing it just got a bit off track.
dooman Posted December 18, 2017 Report Posted December 18, 2017 Alan your wrong I should know as I won 1st combine from Northallerton YB and 4th combine from Hastings which was won in Aberdeen that year. The Trophy’s i got had Grampian combine on them. D Bolton was PRO for the combine and I had to go through and get the birds photos taken
BLACK W F Posted December 18, 2017 Report Posted December 18, 2017 IMO i still think its a good idea Aberdeen & North of Scotland and lads above if they want transporting together and racing together when ever poss ,birdage wise it would help all concerned ,it was a good idea at the time and still could be Ali Sim set it up to enhance the racing it just got a bit off track.in my opinion AJ SIM was for a time the best president the north ever had and at the time was the only one who could bring all the feds together but I don't think the comb will ever happen again too many with hidden agendas hopefully Aberdeen will fly with the north as both could do with cutting costs its only a matter of time before both feds join together u just have to look at the Aberdeen feds flying members they like others have lost members where as the north still remains with a good membership it will take some give and take on both feds as the distance covering the pick ups
BLACK W F Posted December 18, 2017 Report Posted December 18, 2017 Alan your wrong I should know as I won 1st combine from Northallerton YB and 4th combine from Hastings which was won in Aberdeen that year. The Trophy’s i got had Grampian combine on them. D Bolton was PRO for the combine and I had to go through and get the birds photos takenI,m not mind they might have called it a comb but it never became a comb until the four feds came together
dooman Posted December 18, 2017 Report Posted December 18, 2017 So you’re trying to tell me they called it a combine and ingraved trophys with Grampian combine on them but it was not a combine. What planet are you on as its a different one from everyone else.Im not getting into a argument over this as i know im right end of story .
BLACK W F Posted December 18, 2017 Report Posted December 18, 2017 So you’re trying to tell me they called it a combine and ingraved trophys with Grampian combine on them but it was not a combine. What planet are you on as its a different one from everyone else.Im not getting into a argument over this as i know im right end of story .I know the true combine was set up with 4 feds I certainly cant remember any comb with 2 feds and I was on top table with A J Sim and I know who done every thing they could to break it up and also stop both feds going together
gordon wilson Posted December 18, 2017 Report Posted December 18, 2017 I remember winning the averages in section B of the combine in 1998 and still have the trophy and went to near Dundee for the presentation and very few north members attended as they were sick at how Their combine had been hijacked
BLACK W F Posted December 18, 2017 Report Posted December 18, 2017 I remember winning the averages in section B of the combine in 1998 and still have the trophy and went to near Dundee for the presentation and very few north members attended as they were sick at how Their combine had been hijackedmaybe they had nowt to collect Gordon think all the two faced back stabbing killed it
grdkeith Posted December 18, 2017 Report Posted December 18, 2017 For what its worth my memories are the same as Andy's,the combine lost its appeal in this fed when it expanded (although I have no doubt that the expansion was done with the best of intentions)As for future cooperation with aberdeen it is always spoken about nowt happens,our feds decision to form a committee this year to come up with a race programme could help in joint convoying but has been hampered by the fact that a vote was taken at the agm for starting dates for both YB and ob programmes which means that it is likely both feds will be at the longest 2yb races a week apart from each other
philg50 Posted December 18, 2017 Report Posted December 18, 2017 But surely if its beneficial to all concerned the race committees could start talking now together to decide race points and dates then bring it back members by mail where by a vote can be taken ,we are not pressed for time its nigh on 4months to the start of racing there is time for change.
grdkeith Posted December 18, 2017 Report Posted December 18, 2017 But surely if its beneficial to all concerned the race committees could start talking now together to decide race points and dates then bring it back members by mail where by a vote can be taken ,we are not pressed for time its nigh on 4months to the start of racing there is time for change. The fact is we have voted for a start date for both ages and that makes it so much more difficult to match programmes
Ryan Hay Posted December 18, 2017 Report Posted December 18, 2017 I don't know the rules but guessing it's something that would have to be brought up at next year's agm. And voted on then. My father was lucky enough to win the combine from Hastings and still talks about it, definitely the highlight of his racing. Be good to get it back again and sure it could work if race committees sat down together
BLACK W F Posted December 18, 2017 Report Posted December 18, 2017 For what its worth my memories are the same as Andy's,the combine lost its appeal in this fed when it expanded (although I have no doubt that the expansion was done with the best of intentions)As for future cooperation with aberdeen it is always spoken about nowt happens,our feds decision to form a committee this year to come up with a race programme could help in joint convoying but has been hampered by the fact that a vote was taken at the agm for starting dates for both YB and ob programmes which means that it is likely both feds will be at the longest 2yb races a week apart from each otheryour right George our starting dates are already set at AGM the race programme is yet undecided but I,m sure Aberdeen will take north fed doos the same as north will take theirs weather we can get both feds to go together is another matter what u should all remember the length and width of north fed what might be a decent day for Aberdeen might be no good for the north
BLACK W F Posted December 18, 2017 Report Posted December 18, 2017 I don't know the rules but guessing it's something that would have to be brought up at next year's agm. And voted on then. My father was lucky enough to win the combine from Hastings and still talks about it, definitely the highlight of his racing. Be good to get it back again and sure it could work if race committees sat down togetherRyan there will never be a comb again too much in fighting the best u can hope for is both feds going together but even then there will be no big birdages like years ago also remember most Aberdeen guys flying with snfc so that's another spanner in the works as Aberdeen only goto aprox 280mls on their own the rest is snfc races
Dooheed 5 Posted December 18, 2017 Report Posted December 18, 2017 Fred Aberdeen members put birds on at Inverurie last season as trainers and the same applies this year as long as there is room and we have crates to put them into but they will need to arrange this with both the fed president and the Inverurie club sec also if they go on as a fed that's for both feds to work out the points but I,m sure they will be speaking once we and u guys have got our race programs sorted outAye they’ll be on the top racks next year Allan that for sure !!
BLACK W F Posted December 18, 2017 Report Posted December 18, 2017 Aye they’ll be on the top racks next year Allan that for sure !! Chris behave your self think of every one not yourself just u drive the lads doon to Blackpool :emoticon-0136-giggle:
Froog Posted December 18, 2017 Author Report Posted December 18, 2017 Ryan there will never be a comb again too much in fighting the best u can hope for is both feds going together but even then there will be no big birdages like years ago also remember most Aberdeen guys flying with snfc so that's another spanner in the works as Aberdeen only goto aprox 280mls on their own the rest is snfc racesHow do you know that there will never be a combine again? Aberdeen Fed got cleaned out going with the national last year.....im my opinion its time to explore all avenues of making the hobby better for everyone, not just the few
Williedoo Posted December 18, 2017 Report Posted December 18, 2017 Aye they’ll be on the top racks next year Allan that for sure !! Is that the best place for them to be Chris. Just asking encase i am ever part ofthe secret service and decide to go.
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