National Results

[Guest mambo]

What about the birds in Duns, Tranent and St Andrews etc. Did they get "dragged" up the west too.

To simplify it to you first and second birds came up the west side of the country amen

[TheHigg]

Return of the curse that is (bigda) very well done to the Mac's

[dkj]

Would have to, have been west of Wigtown ,and gretna birds doubled back 80 mile into Lanarkshire from gretna, wining birds, would have came in from strathaven end, and down through Clyde valley area

the early south birds are all on the motorway, and that tell you they came up into scotland into the south,

[DJL]

To simplify it to you first and second birds came up the west side of the country amen

No need to simplify it for me pal. I have studied more national results than you have had hot dinners. Anyone with half a brain would know the first two came up the west and the early B and C birds came up the East. As Davie says the leaders don't get dragged off line

[Roland]

http://www.tmakowecki.com/Discussions/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=2170

 

Tillsonburg Club has 3 birds with trackers on them. 1st tracks are in. Extremely interesting!!

 

http://www.tillsonburgdrpc.com/Old%20Bi ... ne2017.pdf

by jimm » Mon Jun 05, 2017 12:09 pm

 

So much for not crossing large bodies of water .. these 3 seemed to do it with no problem. imo

 

jimm wrote: So much for not crossing large bodies of water .. these 3 seemed to do it with no problem. imo

 

 

15282 even seemed to like it so much that it crossed the water again just for the fun of it.

 

They did not show on sheet. However, the week previous 15282 was also tracked. 2nd time. http://www.tillsonburgdrpc.com/Old%20Bi ... 27Race.PDF See the difference in flight path.

 

 Thought it might be of an interest. Certainly DON'T fly in a straight line. Also, as I have often quoted Pierre Dordin. Depending on wind direction and strength pigeon fly in an arc etc.

 

Plus when we see pigeon race over head we obviously think / feel that they are flying a straight line. But as Pierre stated that they accurately zig zag constantly, to amend and keep their line -because of wind, terrain etc.

[b.massey]

12 pigeons were coming high over rosewell off the A7 line at about 14.10

 

They were heading in a line for edge of hill end for the city by pass

 

Def national pigeons and first pigeon into the Midlothian area was 14.09

[Guest mambo]

the early south birds are all on the motorway, and that tell you they came up into scotland into the south,

Don't follow you mate into the ? south

[dkj]

Don't follow you mate into the ? south

 

section E and secion D winners came up a74 as the section A winners did, section b and c winners went up the eden valley over newcastleton then up the gala valley, good doo.s held there good line,

i would think they split about applyby/penrith area onto there own line

[novo10]

Don't follow you mate into the ? south

Bigda same old sh** with you you couldn't fly a kite never mind a doo go back to looking over walls and drink your Buckie ya dick

Edited June 9, 2017 by novo10

[tiger]

Bigda same old sh** with you you couldn't fly a kite never mind a doo go back to looking over walls and drink your Buckie ya dick

 

:emoticon-0136-giggle:

[Guest mambo]

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Was going to have a write up, about Hearts on the beg,for money but you gave up yer place in Europa to easy to the teddy bears.

[Froog]

And I remember ALF once saying I was trouble LOL....I never slagged people like this on here...seems if your face fits, you can do what you want? some of the abuse on here is a f uckin disgrace

[Guest johnhunter]

And I remember ALF once saying I was trouble LOL....I never slagged people like this on here...seems if your face fits, you can do what you want? some of the abuse on here is a f uckin disgrace

froog you are 100 percent correct

[Blue Chequer Pied]

I don't get this. For years we have heard of the problem that the West couldn't win the national due to the east having such an advantage. Now the national has been won in the west it is still a problem!!

 

I don't think some people are ever going to be happy. Mambo/Danny I am sure the doc will give you something to help deal with the demons in your head.

[BLACK W F]

Bigda same old sh** with you you couldn't fly a kite never mind a doo go back to looking over walls and drink your Buckie ya dick

pure entertainment lol

[daviedoo22]

I don't get this. For years we have heard of the problem that the West couldn't win the national due to the east having such an advantage. Now the national has been won in the west it is still a problem!!

 

I don't think some people are ever going to be happy. Mambo/Danny I am sure the doc will give you something to help deal with the demons in your head.

There's no cure to what he's got

[Guest mambo]

If the west has started a new fad, hell mend the bird mouthed nat men at their meetings when the west flood your racing, with birds that gain the drag and all your efforts are gone

[bigjamie]

danny i dont know why your worried about the nationals for you hardly race a bloody pigeon

[Guest mambo]

danny i dont know why your worried about the nationals for you hardly race a bloody pigeon

This thread, was about the small sectional flyers,getting gazumped in the drag,and if 1000 birds a 1/4 of the total sent, can't have an affect ,I don't understand why its OK with you all.

[Roland]

What drag? What is Drag? What's it's merit, or none?

[JonesyBhoy]

Who gives a *expletive removed* about drag etc..

 

Tremendous from The Macs...

 

Fabulous performance along with a fair few other West lads and PB members..

 

Brilliant ðŸ‘ðŸ»

[Guest mambo]

Who gives a *expletive removed* about drag etc..

 

Tremendous from The Macs...

 

Fabulous performance along with a fair few other West lads and PB members..

 

Brilliant ðŸ‘ðŸ»

You are only laughing, when you are winning.

[Guest mambo]

What drag? What is Drag? What's it's merit, or none?

Their were about 700-800 not in the national, my have been more,but most from the west of centre,now that don't make it a national race.only a national race if all are registered yes the macs bird or birds were national registered good result, but with west having top heavy entry, it must have had an affect on what side the birds fly 800 birds will pull a few of line and the velocities of the shortest flyers tell you the did

[Roland]

Remember a few times when pigeons not entered into the National, but transported and released via the 'National' like for instance the NRCC. A few clubs / Feds have their birds taken and released along side of them. All of course released together.

Was a time - as previously posted - when such organisations / Nationals catered for all birds. One could decide if they wanted to pay the extra to have a bird(s) entered into the National.

 

then of course it appears today that one has to be a member OF the 'National Club' club to have your birds transported - a means of making money of course. Becuase if you want to just fly in club / fed overseas you can't, but have to pay the extra plus membership. Sad I fear.

[Kyleakin Lofts]

Danny, are you advocating that the National do not convey Federation pigeons? This is the only way to stop non-National entered pigeons having an effect on the drag.

If this is the purpose behind your thread, then it stands to reason that the next step would be to stop the Inland Nationals and return to Federation races at this distance. This is financially impossible, so Combines would have to be formed. Whilst I personally don't think that this would be a bad thing, I think that the National needs the income from the Inlands to finance its water races. You may be correct, that this demerits the National standing, but I feel you are really only raising point because you know it will receive comments.

I have heard it mooted for around four years, I'm sure it has been mooted for longer, for a West amalgamation. As yet, this has not came about because and only recently Ayrshire liberated five minutes after the Caledonian Combine. Utter madness, but this is what one expects from pigeon men determined to secure their individual advantage over the benefit of the majority.