Froog Posted June 26, 2017 Report Share Posted June 26, 2017 Blue, the protein will be removed from my build up by Wednesday, when it is 7 days till basketing Keep up the good work, some of us up here love reading your posts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiley Posted June 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 27, 2017 Today sees the morning feed consisting of 10 grams 50% protein 50% depurative. The evening feed 15 grams 50% protein 50% fats. The fats now starting to be introduced Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clockman Posted June 27, 2017 Report Share Posted June 27, 2017 Sorry you feel that way Phil, but it is the way I do it, why would i need advice from a good distance flyer up north, when I have won the London North Road Combine at both 510 miles and 599 miles, and winning two RPRA Region awards for my achievements at distance racing, and having a bird in the LNRC Hall of Fame, runner up Tommy long trophy(best average all distance racing is LNRC) and best 3 bird average from 510 miles in LNRC? Fantastic results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Hay Posted June 27, 2017 Report Share Posted June 27, 2017 Aye great results is your 599 miles Lerwick and 510 miles Thurso? Must be a great feeling clocking a doo from Lerwick never mind winning the combine. Well done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiley Posted June 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 27, 2017 Aye great results is your 599 miles Lerwick and 510 miles Thurso? Must be a great feeling clocking a doo from Lerwick never mind winning the combine. Well done. Yes 599 is from Lerwick, we have also been 2nd open combine from Lerwick, 3rd, 5th and 7th. But haven't sent for a few years now to lerwick. 510 is from Thurso yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiley Posted June 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 27, 2017 Naturaline in the drinker till basketing from tomorrow. Tomorrow morning feed consists of 50% fat 50 % depurative with 10 grams per pigeon. The evening consists of 75% fat, and 25% depurative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dal2 Posted June 27, 2017 Report Share Posted June 27, 2017 Naturaline in the drinker till basketing from tomorrow. Tomorrow morning feed consists of 50% fat 50 % depurative with 10 grams per pigeon. The evening consists of 75% fat, and 25% depurative.If you bought a bag of ....lets say....versalaga champion+...and you fed it an ounce and a quarter a day per pigeon what do you think would happen to your results? You still use your conditioners just cut out depuratived etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluey Posted June 27, 2017 Report Share Posted June 27, 2017 Naturaline in the drinker till basketing from tomorrow. Tomorrow morning feed consists of 50% fat 50 % depurative with 10 grams per pigeon. The evening consists of 75% fat, and 25% depurative. Are you willing to name the the mixes ie; Versele/Marimans/Bamfords etc; ? 75% fat is that 75% fat mix or 75% actual fat ? Different providers have similar grains but in different proportions. My usual feed from 3 days before basketing is 50/50 Bamfords Widowhood Express and Marimans Super Winner plus 10% Bamfords condition seed. When going for distance I usually add maize and/or/both peanuts at the same 10% depending on the weather, how they are exercising and my prediction for the race ahead. Your comments will be welcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiley Posted June 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 27, 2017 If you bought a bag of ....lets say....versalaga champion+...and you fed it an ounce and a quarter a day per pigeon what do you think would happen to your results? You still use your conditioners just cut out depuratived etc the only way is it to try it Steven, I couldn't predict if results would be better or worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiley Posted June 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 27, 2017 Are you willing to name the the mixes ie; Versele/Marimans/Bamfords etc; ? 75% fat is that 75% fat mix or 75% actual fat ? Different providers have similar grains but in different proportions. My usual feed from 3 days before basketing is 50/50 Bamfords Widowhood Express and Marimans Super Winner plus 10% Bamfords condition seed. When going for distance I usually add maize and/or/both peanuts at the same 10% depending on the weather, how they are exercising and my prediction for the race ahead. Your comments will be welcome. I personally don't add maize Bluey, as that's what I want the birds to take in the basket, as there fat reserves would have already be where it should be by the time basketing comes around, carbs are quickly burnt out so they need them and need to use they are used quickly, my mixes even for sprinting contain little maize, but I know my birds will take them with relish being in the basket for 2 days, and eat them a lot quicker then the competition will who may have carb loaded there birds. I believe in fat loading as the finest source of energy, as it is slow burning. However 4 days before basketing hemp is infront of the birds at all times however this year it will be a combination of hemp and sunflower hearts. My mix contains peanuts however I also supplement this with 10 peanuts per day per pigeon, and hemp oil on the grain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluey Posted June 27, 2017 Report Share Posted June 27, 2017 Why maize in the basket ? And perhaps more importantly how much maize is in the mix fed by the conveyor ? Barca International birds are fed Cribs maize, British birds at the distance are at the mercy of conveyors who take them there for profit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiley Posted June 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 27, 2017 Why maize in the basket ? And perhaps more importantly how much maize is in the mix fed by the conveyor ? Barca International birds are fed Cribs maize, British birds at the distance are at the mercy of conveyors who take them there for profit. Maize is carbs they are only used at the initial release till 1hr-2hrs maximum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiley Posted June 28, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2017 Thursday will see the morning feed being 10grams 50% fat 50% depurative. The evening feed will be 15grams of 100% fat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiley Posted June 29, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2017 Friday sees 10grams morning 50% fat 50% depurative in the morning. In the evening 20 grams 100% fat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiley Posted June 29, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2017 Today the Thurso birds will get a 25 mile spin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiley Posted July 1, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2017 Morning feed 15grams fat, evening feed 20 grams fat. Tonight the birds will get as much hempAnd sunflower hearts as they like right upto basketing it will be infront Of them 24/7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiley Posted July 2, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2017 Today's feed was 15grams fat morning 20 grams fat in the evening. Monday sees the depurative go back into mix at 50% and 50% fat. Morning 20 grams, evening 25 grams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiley Posted July 3, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2017 Tuesdays feed morning 20grams 50% depurative 50% fat. Tuesday evening as much as the birds require of 75% depurative 25% fat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiley Posted July 3, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2017 Just had the result from the fed from weekends 114 mile race 3rd club 4th fed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyleakin Lofts Posted July 3, 2017 Report Share Posted July 3, 2017 Well done Ryan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paddymac Posted July 3, 2017 Report Share Posted July 3, 2017 Just had the result from the fed from weekends 114 mile race 3rd club 4th fedNice one Ryan, well done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordie1234 Posted July 3, 2017 Report Share Posted July 3, 2017 What a season Ryan consistent from start to finish....bring it home from Thurso Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiley Posted July 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2017 Cheers guys Today is basketing day, 75% depurative 25% fat infront of em all day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darnaway Posted July 5, 2017 Report Share Posted July 5, 2017 Good luck Ryan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiley Posted July 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2017 Had 4 out of the 7 entries at first light this morning all within 30 minutes of each other, it wasn't what I wanted as I wanted day birds but those 4 wasn't far behind considering how early they was there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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