Getting Lots Of Bad Reports

[walterboswell59]

many with birds missing and birds injured i myself have two good yealing hens missing and two hawked from 24 sent first bird 201 then birds coming all day up to 8 15 last night who needs training like that ill not be back at dunbar glad i only sent yearlings just taking the goodness out the birds imo

[tyson]

unfortunately walter it disna matter where you go now the bassas are every where if nothing gets done the doo game is finished as its knocking the heart out of pigeon men

[Delboy]

Ive never had a bad toss fae Dunbar Wattie when ive liberated at Shore road. If you go south of that, near the power station then you have problems with percy.

[blue pied]

I musta have been at Dunbar 30 times in 4/5 years and never had a bad toss or race

 

I musta have been at Dunbar 30 times in 4/5 years and never had a bad toss or race

In fact a would go as far as saying hardly lost a pigeon

[walterboswell59]

Ive never had a bad toss fae Dunbar Wattie when ive liberated at Shore road. If you go south of that, near the power station then you have problems with percy.

its a good toss if your not straight west from it dell im hearing of guys with ten missing last night what was wrong with meldons i know we get hit there also but the birds were getting home and not needing to fly a shift to do it m8 not blaming anyone but if its not broken dont fix it if it was a week before the national i could see the point m8 just dont see the logic anyway ive had my rant for the day lol

[Novice]

its a good toss if your not straight west from it dell im hearing of guys with ten missing last night what was wrong with meldons i know we get hit there also but the birds were getting home and not needing to fly a shift to do it m8 not blaming anyone but if its not broken dont fix it if it was a week before the national i could see the point m8 just dont see the logic anyway ive had my rant for the day lol

I have tossed from Livingston for several years now coming straight along the M8 . I did on SUnday with no problem and did again yesterday releasing about 11:30 and have 3 missing and 2 without tails.

[ALF]

We were lucky yesterday as we sent all the cocks and got them all although 2 3/4 hrs from 1st till last only sent the cocks for a toss as all bar 1 weren't at Sedgefield

[Delboy]

its a good toss if your not straight west from it dell im hearing of guys with ten missing last night what was wrong with meldons i know we get hit there also but the birds were getting home and not needing to fly a shift to do it m8 not blaming anyone but if its not broken dont fix it if it was a week before the national i could see the point m8 just dont see the logic anyway ive had my rant for the day lol

 

Im straight west of it Wattie.I think it was just one of those Percy days, Forth/clyde got toughy at Dalkeith yesterday too Wattie.

[border terrier lofts]

Still 3 to come from yesterday's dunbar 2 year old hen just home with inside of wing out and tail out . Had youngsters out this morning 2 Percy's at them all back one with wing and tail out,this is the second attack in a week .is it worth all the time and effort to watch this carnage.

[Henrik]

There was a lib yesterday at Cockenzie, how did they get on, anyone know?

[lanarkshire lad]

I had three at Dunbar with the fed got all three within half an hour but a few of my clubmates had pigeons to come last night with one guy having ten to come its just your luck you could toss there today and get a great toss us pigeon men aint doing our job right if you no what I mean we need to get the finger out big time action speaks louder than words this is the worst year for peregrines that I can remember.

[Novice]

I had three at Dunbar with the fed got all three within half an hour but a few of my clubmates had pigeons to come last night with one guy having ten to come its just your luck you could toss there today and get a great toss us pigeon men aint doing our job right if you no what I mean we need to get the finger out big time action speaks louder than words this is the worst year for peregrines that I can remember.

Great post and summarises the situation. We only need to train a few select birds and confine our racers for a week in August to help return the balance of nature.

[Guest Gareth Rankin]

No doubt there was a few reasons why it wasnt a great toss.

 

Biggest problem was the change in direction for the Lanarkshire fed transporter, pigeons had to think were they were from 55 miles, the vast majority of the convoy would never have seen that part of the country before and seeing the sea to the north and east of them might well have spooked them, seen it too many times before.

 

Next week shall be a lot better.

[lanarkshire lad]

No doubt there was a few reasons why it wasnt a great toss.

 

Biggest problem was the change in direction for the Lanarkshire fed transporter, pigeons had to think were they were from 55 miles, the vast majority of the convoy would never have seen that part of the country before and seeing the sea to the north and east of them might well have spooked them, seen it too many times before.

 

Next week shall be a lot better.

Hey Gareth Ken Buchanans trailer liberated from dunbar about an hour before the fed and they had a great toss and they were there for the first time.

[tyson]

I liberated at dunbar yesterday at 12.40pm all home in 25mins

[ALF]

Hey Gareth Ken Buchanans trailer liberated from dunbar about an hour before the fed and they had a great toss and they were there for the first time.

1 of our club members had 13 to come from the Hamilton trailer at 6 PM last night Jim

[Guest Gareth Rankin]

Hey Gareth Ken Buchanans trailer liberated from dunbar about an hour before the fed and they had a great toss and they were there for the first time.

The 5 bird trailer thats parked at Kennys have been training from that area many times over the last few years.

[Guest Gareth Rankin]

1 of our club members had 13 to come from the Hamilton trailer at 6 PM last night Jim

Not good, i hope he got them turning in after this

[andy Burgess]

There was a lib yesterday at Cockenzie, how did they get on, anyone know?

 

great when folk tell you in advance eh Bobby

[dal2]

Ive never had a bad toss fae Dunbar Wattie when ive liberated at Shore road. If you go south of that, near the power station then you have problems with percy.

Training is a minefield whether it's 5 miles or 55 miles. I try to do as little as possible.

[Bobby4]

Been training east for years as getting hit constantly down the m74 so gave that up Gareth has appoint about birds changing direction therefor goin back to they're old lines as a witnessed myself when I started goin east all my birds home in an hour from Dunbar yesterday

[walterboswell59]

i agree with gareth im just p d because i should have known better but the amount of injured birds from the toss is ott but i also think why train from a place the birds will never be unless they are lost if they ever do see that area there beat peebles kelso otterburn even but ill never be back at dunbar even when we were having good races from there with the mid week i thought we were teaching our birds bad habits by learning them to break farther and farther east when to win we need our birds to fight for the middle but like i say its jmo

[Bobby4]

In west wins the pigeons are pushed over towards the east as I have watched my birds coming out east for years and even when we were liberated from places like locharbriggs in west winds they still come out the east.we here in Coatbridge were timing in before the likes off lark hall m/well ect so me personally they are already coming down there we are goin to have bad tosses everywhere and is only goin to get worse because there's not eneogh of us doing what we should be we need to sort it ourself as no one will do it for us not even Gerry Francis lol

[Guest Gareth Rankin]

i agree with gareth im just p d because i should have known better but the amount of injured birds from the toss is ott but i also think why train from a place the birds will never be unless they are lost if they ever do see that area there beat peebles kelso otterburn even but ill never be back at dunbar even when we were having good races from there with the mid week i thought we were teaching our birds bad habits by learning them to break farther and farther east when to win we need our birds to fight for the middle but like i say its jmo

Agree about line of flight and bad habits but fanciers have indicated that they wanted 1 good fly midweek from a distance further than peebles, which is great for pigeons that might have been off the road for a week or two, Dunbar is suppose to be saffer than Hawick and Locharbriggs etc Time will tell as the BOP's are everywhere.

[walterboswell59]

Agree about line of flight and bad habits but fanciers have indicated that they wanted 1 good fly midweek from a distance further than peebles, which is great for pigeons that might have been off the road for a week or two, Dunbar is suppose to be saffer than Hawick and Locharbriggs etc Time will tell as the BOP's are everywhere.

your right of course gareth no where safe m8 remember the great tosses we had from coldstream and no one lost a pigeon could put the kettle on for them to

 

In west wins the pigeons are pushed over towards the east as I have watched my birds coming out east for years and even when we were liberated from places like locharbriggs in west winds they still come out the east.we here in Coatbridge were timing in before the likes off lark hall m/well ect so me personally they are already coming down there we are goin to have bad tosses everywhere and is only goin to get worse because there's not eneogh of us doing what we should be we need to sort it ourself as no one will do it for us not even Gerry Francis lol

lol trouble is some want you to do it for them m8 and it needs all of us