Blue Chequer Pied Posted January 30, 2015 Report Posted January 30, 2015 AS Alf Baker said, 'You buy the birds, not the fancier'! Mind his birds did breed an international winner ... For Belgium. Often flayed though as above. Barker not Baker Roland. Alf Baker in my opinion was one of the best fanciers this country has seen. His book is probably the best pigeon book I have ever read.
andy Burgess Posted January 30, 2015 Report Posted January 30, 2015 IMO they're all over hyped.Agree with me or not racing up to 300 mile I regard as sprint and this type of racing I believe comes down to 60% fancier 40% pigeon. Give good pigeons to a good fancier and they'll win regardless of strain. The only difference with good old strains and the new super Van Ar$ekickers is that you can ask double the amount for the new. Again IMO there's peeps out there that scan the continent trying to find an unheard name that flies well with the sole intent on marketing these new pigeons and making a quick buck, lets be honest if you found a source of super pigeons you would keep it close to your chest.
andy Burgess Posted January 30, 2015 Report Posted January 30, 2015 IMO they're all over hyped.Agree with me or not racing up to 300 mile I regard as sprint and this type of racing I believe comes down to 60% fancier 40% pigeon. Give good pigeons to a good fancier and they'll win regardless of strain. The only difference with good old strains and the new super Van Ar$ekickers is that you can ask double the amount for the new. Again IMO there's peeps out there that scan the continent trying to find an unheard name that flies well with the sole intent on marketing these new pigeons and making a quick buck, lets be honest if you found a source of super pigeons you would keep it close to your chest. site search box currently very busy , words mostly typed in this evening "Van Ar$ekickers" by 9 site members
kingziemckay Posted January 30, 2015 Report Posted January 30, 2015 this is the new super breed that keeps it very close to its chest,,
Tony C Posted January 30, 2015 Report Posted January 30, 2015 site search box currently very busy , words mostly typed in this evening "Van Ar$ekickers" by 9 site members Shushhh! keep it close to your chest
andy Burgess Posted January 30, 2015 Report Posted January 30, 2015 this is the new super breed that keeps it very close to its chest,, is that from the old "Kryptonite line"
kingziemckay Posted January 30, 2015 Report Posted January 30, 2015 is that from the old "Kryptonite line" yes you cant get them on this planet for love nor money!! :emoticon-0136-giggle:
andy Burgess Posted January 30, 2015 Report Posted January 30, 2015 yes you cant get them on this planet for love nor money!! :emoticon-0136-giggle: ho , ho, ho what a SUPER answer
Tony C Posted January 30, 2015 Report Posted January 30, 2015 yes you cant get them on this planet for love nor money!! :emoticon-0136-giggle:Try the Daily Planet, ask for Clark Kent
kingziemckay Posted January 30, 2015 Report Posted January 30, 2015 Try the Daily Planet, ask for Clark Kent you sure its not the nearest phone box?
just ask me Posted January 30, 2015 Report Posted January 30, 2015 IMO they're all over hyped.Agree with me or not racing up to 300 mile I regard as sprint and this type of racing I believe comes down to 60% fancier 40% pigeon. Give good pigeons to a good fancier and they'll win regardless of strain. The only difference with good old strains and the new super Van Ar$ekickers is that you can ask double the amount for the new. Again IMO there's peeps out there that scan the continent trying to find an unheard name that flies well with the sole intent on marketing these new pigeons and making a quick buck, lets be honest if you found a source of super pigeons you would keep it close to your chest. living in a bad area you wont top feds with bad birds maybe on the golden mile
harky Posted January 31, 2015 Report Posted January 31, 2015 Nothin to do with the Doos , upto the fancier to bring the best out of them.
Valiant Fifer Posted January 31, 2015 Report Posted January 31, 2015 Money for old rope springs to mind
walterboswell59 Posted January 31, 2015 Report Posted January 31, 2015 must agree with tony when i started out for real in my eary twenties i had birds from some of the best fanciers in the country yes i got a wee turn now and then but nothing like i should have with the birds i had why because i did not put the work and time into them that i now know has to be done with any pigeons to be consistent and win at the highest level you must do your bit first before you blame the pigeons getting good birds dry loft with plenty of air training feeding health and incentive is all down to the fancier only when i can say ive done all this can i point the finger at the pigeon imo
Kyleakin Lofts Posted January 31, 2015 Report Posted January 31, 2015 yes you cant get them on this planet for love nor money!! :emoticon-0136-giggle: Try Planet Bros. :D
walterboswell59 Posted January 31, 2015 Report Posted January 31, 2015 So the big horse races are dominated by off spring of past winners eh? No matter the cost, or breeding, it takes the owner / fanciers to enable the birds to bring home the bacon. Further I'd wager - if able to be proven - that nigh every loft at some times has / or will have a great bird ... whether recognised and brought to the table will be another story, and Many may be brought to the dinner table lol. For the cogs to turn in harmony it takes knowledge and oil.bang on roland think now days every loft has winning blood lines somewhere in the loft but its up to the fancier to bring it out
Tony C Posted January 31, 2015 Report Posted January 31, 2015 over the years there have been many new strains that were heralded by studs, enthusiasts or people in the know :blush: how many can you remember??An apt name just come to me ........... Jan Loots
Blue Chequer Pied Posted January 31, 2015 Report Posted January 31, 2015 Corbetts and Barkers, definately did not live up to the hype .
grdkeith Posted January 31, 2015 Author Report Posted January 31, 2015 .Tried to explain that one to Jed today but gave up!! Possible he might get it now
Guest stb- Posted January 31, 2015 Report Posted January 31, 2015 IMO they're all over hyped.Agree with me or not racing up to 300 mile I regard as sprint and this type of racing I believe comes down to 60% fancier 40% pigeon. Give good pigeons to a good fancier and they'll win regardless of strain. The only difference with good old strains and the new super Van Ar$ekickers is that you can ask double the amount for the new. Again IMO there's peeps out there that scan the continent trying to find an unheard name that flies well with the sole intent on marketing these new pigeons and making a quick buck, lets be honest if you found a source of super pigeons you would keep it close to your chest.tony your spot on ,and some guys would ruin the best if they got them too .thats coz the were overdosed on Roni
AllyR Posted January 31, 2015 Report Posted January 31, 2015 . Speaking about comedians, got these two roped in to help with a wee job at the local hall today, which should have taken approx an hour!!!There's me up the ladder clinging on for dear life, turned round to ask for drill and here's them having a chin balancing competition with the brushes.Goerge won by the way, but Ed said he was at a disadvantage cos he only had one chin.
Valiant Fifer Posted January 31, 2015 Report Posted January 31, 2015 :emoticon-0136-giggle: :emoticon-0136-giggle:
hotrod Posted January 31, 2015 Report Posted January 31, 2015 I'm of the opinion that a top class fancier could win with mediocre birds ,whereas a poor fancier could never win even with top birds .
Blue Chequer Pied Posted January 31, 2015 Report Posted January 31, 2015 Speaking about comedians, got these two roped in to help with a wee job at the local hall today, which should have taken approx an hour!!!There's me up the ladder clinging on for dear life, turned round to ask for drill and here's them having a chin balancing competition with the brushes.Goerge won by the way, but Ed said he was at a disadvantage cos he only had one chin. U Right enough Ed only has one chin but my god what a chin How long did it take to do the job in the end?
AllyR Posted January 31, 2015 Report Posted January 31, 2015 U Right enough Ed only has one chin but my god what a chin How long did it take to do the job in the end? Going back tomorrow.
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