jocky Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 the sprint boys will be hard to beat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delboy Posted October 19, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 the sprint boys will be hard to beat. aye yer right there lol.9 ob races under 170 miles for you lads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordie1234 Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 My fed programme for next year and approx distancesOtterburn 87milesOtterburn 87 mileshexham 98 milessedgefield 132 milesThirsk 155 milesThirsk 155 milesWetherby 170 milesInland Nat with SNFC (300 miles)Sedgefield 132 milesInland nat with SNFC (370 miles) Otterburn 87miles Ypres 440 milesyoungbirds is the 1st 6 races plus an Otterburn comeback at the end Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue pied Posted October 20, 2014 Report Share Posted October 20, 2014 what if the SNFC scrap the first inland race? what would the fed do then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordie1234 Posted October 20, 2014 Report Share Posted October 20, 2014 Go on our own Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyson Posted October 20, 2014 Report Share Posted October 20, 2014 your going to have a big jump from wetherby been better with 1 thirsk then wetherby then newark jmo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordie1234 Posted October 20, 2014 Report Share Posted October 20, 2014 I think the jump is no problem the pigeons will hopefully had a gd run up to that point.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delboy Posted October 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2014 I think the jump is no problem the pigeons will hopefully had a gd run up to that point.. Its not ideal jumping yearlings from 170 to a 300-330 mls national Geo, it would be much better giving them a 230-260 miler with a local fed first, then getting them into the second inland nat.imo. A lot of fanciers in your fed will stop their yearlings at Wetherby now that they haven't an option. omho. Ideally the best thing your members could do is get a race program proposal into the snfc without the first inland nat included.This would let ye go to Leicester or Peterborough to benefit yer yearlings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotrod Posted October 20, 2014 Report Share Posted October 20, 2014 Its not ideal jumping yearlings from 170 to a 300-330 mls national Geo, it would be much better giving them a 230-260 miler with a local fed first, then getting them into the second inland nat.imo. A lot of fanciers in your fed will stop their yearlings at Wetherby now that they haven't an option. omho. Ideally the best thing your members could do is get a race program proposal into the snfc without the first inland nat included.This would let ye go to Leicester or Peterborough to benefit yer yearlings.Couldn't agree more del. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommy bhoys Posted October 20, 2014 Report Share Posted October 20, 2014 Its not ideal jumping yearlings from 170 to a 300-330 mls national Geo, it would be much better giving them a 230-260 miler with a local fed first, then getting them into the second inland nat.imo. A lot of fanciers in your fed will stop their yearlings at Wetherby now that they haven't an option. omho. Ideally the best thing your members could do is get a race program proposal into the snfc without the first inland nat included.This would let ye go to Leicester or Peterborough to benefit yer yearlings.del this is the race program the members decided on it was pointed out at meeting bout distances and this is what they wanted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delboy Posted October 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2014 del this is the race program the members decided on it was pointed out at meeting bout distances and this is what they wanted Its not the distance really Tommy, its going with the national with yearlings that haven't had much experience. 300 miles with a fed is a lot easier than 300 miles with the National, especially when jumping from 160-170 mls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommy bhoys Posted October 20, 2014 Report Share Posted October 20, 2014 Its not the distance really Tommy, its going with the national with yearlings that haven't had much experience. 300 miles with a fed is a lot easier than 300 miles with the National, especially when jumping from 160-170 mls.del your rite but i pointed out about the distances at the meeting will be stopping my yearlings at wetherby should be plenty money in this race Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster J. Cogburn Posted October 20, 2014 Report Share Posted October 20, 2014 Its not ideal jumping yearlings from 170 to a 300-330 mls national Geo, it would be much better giving them a 230-260 miler with a local fed first, then getting them into the second inland nat.imo. A lot of fanciers in your fed will stop their yearlings at Wetherby now that they haven't an option. omho. Ideally the best thing your members could do is get a race program proposal into the snfc without the first inland nat included.This would let ye go to Leicester or Peterborough to benefit yer yearlings. Couldn't agree more del. Derek and Stuart, Alternatively What would you think of putting a race program proposal into the SNFC with Peterborough as the first inland race? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Davie Posted October 20, 2014 Report Share Posted October 20, 2014 Its not ideal jumping yearlings from 170 to a 300-330 mls national Geo, it would be much better giving them a 230-260 miler with a local fed first, then getting them into the second inland nat.imo. A lot of fanciers in your fed will stop their yearlings at Wetherby now that they haven't an option. omho. Ideally the best thing your members could do is get a race program proposal into the snfc without the first inland nat included.This would let ye go to Leicester or Peterborough to benefit yer yearlings.Exactly Del, this is one of the issues I was trying to highlight in post 37 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommy bhoys Posted October 20, 2014 Report Share Posted October 20, 2014 there was a map produced at this meeting showing confirmed breeding places of peregrines and a race program trying to avoid them which i thought was the route tae go. but hopefully we have good racing the way the members decided one thing is for sure the fed wont be losing moneyin any races next year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dal2 Posted October 20, 2014 Report Share Posted October 20, 2014 I don't like getting my yearlings mixed in from the nats. Have tried it before and have lost birds I didnt expect to. Solway fed goes to the coast in a venture that losses money every year.......long may it continue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OF ONE SKIN Posted October 20, 2014 Report Share Posted October 20, 2014 I don't like getting my yearlings mixed in from the nats. Have tried it before and have lost birds I didnt expect to. Solway fed goes to the coast in a venture that losses money every year.......long may it continue Not so sure about losing money but its the right idea.imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordie1234 Posted October 20, 2014 Report Share Posted October 20, 2014 there was a map produced at this meeting showing confirmed breeding places of peregrines and a race program trying to avoid them which i thought was the route tae go. but hopefully we have good racing the way the members decided one thing is for sure the fed wont be losing moneyin any races next year The thing is Tommy that map was confirmed breeding spots in 2011 nae good now t Did Lanarkshire not have its own race last year at 300? Pretty sure it wasn't supported or was the the 370 race? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dal2 Posted October 20, 2014 Report Share Posted October 20, 2014 Not so sure about losing money but its the right idea.imoHave to try and turn a profit on the shorter races to make it viable. Or get a sponsor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastcoaster Posted October 20, 2014 Report Share Posted October 20, 2014 Would have liked to see us keep this programme for 3 years then take it from there . I will send my yearlings with another fed for a wee bit of distance before the nats , but glad they have a comeback race for my late breds . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Davie Posted October 20, 2014 Report Share Posted October 20, 2014 The thing is Tommy that map was confirmed breeding spots in 2011 nae good now t Did Lanarkshire not have its own race last year at 300? Pretty sure it wasn't supported or was the the 370 race?George Although the map produced is 3 years out of date it still gave the most recent info available and more than any of the other proposals, if their were no inland Nats then it would have been a good programme for the fed to consider. You are correct with regards going themselves last year too Upper Heyford ( 280mls ) and Bedhampton ( 360mls) on their own on June 8th and 21st, these races were poorly supported in Lanarkshire fed but you have to consider that the SNFC had races on the same day from Buckingham and Maidstone which would have taken many entries away from the fed, so I agree it makes perfect sense to go with the SNFC if in fact these races are on in 2015, however my own preference would be for the inland Nats to be dropped from the SNFC race programme completely and let the Feds race to the coast where the fed entries would be far better IMO, for me these inland Nats are killing federation open / duplication racing at 300 - 360 mls and the first inland Nat race especially I s having a detrimental effect on the entries for the gold cup at the end of June , again JMHO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordie1234 Posted October 20, 2014 Report Share Posted October 20, 2014 George Although the map produced is 3 years out of date it still gave the most recent info available and more than any of the other proposals, if their were no inland Nats then it would have been a good programme for the fed to consider. You are correct with regards going themselves last year too Upper Heyford ( 280mls ) and Bedhampton ( 360mls) on their own on June 8th and 21st, these races were poorly supported in Lanarkshire fed but you have to consider that the SNFC had races on the same day from Buckingham and Maidstone which would have taken many entries away from the fed, so I agree it makes perfect sense to go with the SNFC if in fact these races are on in 2015, however my own preference would be for the inland Nats to be dropped from the SNFC race programme completely and let the Feds race to the coast where the fed entries would be far better IMO, for me these inland Nats are killing federation open / duplication racing at 300 - 360 mls and the first inland Nat race especially I s having a detrimental effect on the entries for the gold cup at the end of June , again JMHOVery good post Davie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy Posted October 21, 2014 Report Share Posted October 21, 2014 If the first inland national is a wee bit tough, I think yous could struggle with your yearlings, with this "sprint" programme, also most didnt get very far as youngsters! I also think this is the reason why there is a lot of losses at the first national due to the fact there is a lot of inexperienced yearlings. Maybe yous should have given the west route at least another year as its straighter. Your back to teaching the birds to fly round corners...JMHO and good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotrod Posted October 21, 2014 Report Share Posted October 21, 2014 Derek and Stuart, Alternatively What would you think of putting a race program proposal into the SNFC with Peterborough as the first inland race?I put this up on here a few years back , but members felt that the races were gettin shorter . But it would get my vote ,although I don't bother with these national races . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotrod Posted October 21, 2014 Report Share Posted October 21, 2014 George Although the map produced is 3 years out of date it still gave the most recent info available and more than any of the other proposals, if their were no inland Nats then it would have been a good programme for the fed to consider. You are correct with regards going themselves last year too Upper Heyford ( 280mls ) and Bedhampton ( 360mls) on their own on June 8th and 21st, these races were poorly supported in Lanarkshire fed but you have to consider that the SNFC had races on the same day from Buckingham and Maidstone which would have taken many entries away from the fed, so I agree it makes perfect sense to go with the SNFC if in fact these races are on in 2015, however my own preference would be for the inland Nats to be dropped from the SNFC race programme completely and let the Feds race to the coast where the fed entries would be far better IMO, for me these inland Nats are killing federation open / duplication racing at 300 - 360 mls and the first inland Nat race especially I s having a detrimental effect on the entries for the gold cup at the end of June , again JMHOAgain bang on davie . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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