Lanarkshire Fed Race Prog 2015

[jocky]

the sprint boys will be hard to beat.

[Delboy]

the sprint boys will be hard to beat.

 

aye yer right there lol.9 ob races under 170 miles for you lads

[geordie1234]

My fed programme for next year and approx distances

Otterburn 87miles

Otterburn 87 miles

hexham 98 miles

sedgefield 132 miles

Thirsk 155 miles

Thirsk 155 miles

Wetherby 170 miles

Inland Nat with SNFC (300 miles)

Sedgefield 132 miles

Inland nat with SNFC (370 miles)

Otterburn 87miles

Ypres 440 miles

youngbirds is the 1st 6 races plus an Otterburn comeback at the end

[blue pied]

what if the SNFC scrap the first inland race? what would the fed do then?

[geordie1234]

Go on our own

[tyson]

your going to have a big jump from wetherby been better with 1 thirsk then wetherby then newark jmo

[geordie1234]

I think the jump is no problem the pigeons will hopefully had a gd run up to that point..

[Delboy]

I think the jump is no problem the pigeons will hopefully had a gd run up to that point..

 

Its not ideal jumping yearlings from 170 to a 300-330 mls national Geo, it would be much better giving them a 230-260 miler with a local fed first, then getting them into the second inland nat.imo. A lot of fanciers in your fed will stop their yearlings at Wetherby now that they haven't an option. omho. Ideally the best thing your members could do is get a race program proposal into the snfc without the first inland nat included.This would let ye go to Leicester or Peterborough to benefit yer yearlings.

[hotrod]

Its not ideal jumping yearlings from 170 to a 300-330 mls national Geo, it would be much better giving them a 230-260 miler with a local fed first, then getting them into the second inland nat.imo. A lot of fanciers in your fed will stop their yearlings at Wetherby now that they haven't an option. omho. Ideally the best thing your members could do is get a race program proposal into the snfc without the first inland nat included.This would let ye go to Leicester or Peterborough to benefit yer yearlings.

Couldn't agree more del.

[tommy bhoys]

Its not ideal jumping yearlings from 170 to a 300-330 mls national Geo, it would be much better giving them a 230-260 miler with a local fed first, then getting them into the second inland nat.imo. A lot of fanciers in your fed will stop their yearlings at Wetherby now that they haven't an option. omho. Ideally the best thing your members could do is get a race program proposal into the snfc without the first inland nat included.This would let ye go to Leicester or Peterborough to benefit yer yearlings.

del this is the race program the members decided on it was pointed out at meeting bout distances and this is what they wanted

[Delboy]

del this is the race program the members decided on it was pointed out at meeting bout distances and this is what they wanted

 

Its not the distance really Tommy, its going with the national with yearlings that haven't had much experience. 300 miles with a fed is a lot easier than 300 miles with the National, especially when jumping from 160-170 mls.

[tommy bhoys]

Its not the distance really Tommy, its going with the national with yearlings that haven't had much experience. 300 miles with a fed is a lot easier than 300 miles with the National, especially when jumping from 160-170 mls.

del your rite but i pointed out about the distances at the meeting will be stopping my yearlings at wetherby should be plenty money in this race

[Rooster J. Cogburn]

Its not ideal jumping yearlings from 170 to a 300-330 mls national Geo, it would be much better giving them a 230-260 miler with a local fed first, then getting them into the second inland nat.imo. A lot of fanciers in your fed will stop their yearlings at Wetherby now that they haven't an option. omho. Ideally the best thing your members could do is get a race program proposal into the snfc without the first inland nat included.This would let ye go to Leicester or Peterborough to benefit yer yearlings.

 

 

Couldn't agree more del.

 

Derek and Stuart,

 

Alternatively

 

What would you think of putting a race program proposal into the SNFC with Peterborough as the first inland race?

[Big Davie]

Its not ideal jumping yearlings from 170 to a 300-330 mls national Geo, it would be much better giving them a 230-260 miler with a local fed first, then getting them into the second inland nat.imo. A lot of fanciers in your fed will stop their yearlings at Wetherby now that they haven't an option. omho. Ideally the best thing your members could do is get a race program proposal into the snfc without the first inland nat included.This would let ye go to Leicester or Peterborough to benefit yer yearlings.

Exactly Del, this is one of the issues I was trying to highlight in post 37

[tommy bhoys]

there was a map produced at this meeting showing confirmed breeding places of peregrines and a race program trying to avoid them which i thought was the route tae go. but hopefully we have good racing the way the members decided one thing is for sure the fed wont be losing money

in any races next year

[dal2]

I don't like getting my yearlings mixed in from the nats. Have tried it before and have lost birds I didnt expect to. Solway fed goes to the coast in a venture that losses money every year

.......long may it continue

[OF ONE SKIN]

I don't like getting my yearlings mixed in from the nats. Have tried it before and have lost birds I didnt expect to. Solway fed goes to the coast in a venture that losses money every year

.......long may it continue

 

 

Not so sure about losing money but its the right idea.imo

[geordie1234]

there was a map produced at this meeting showing confirmed breeding places of peregrines and a race program trying to avoid them which i thought was the route tae go. but hopefully we have good racing the way the members decided one thing is for sure the fed wont be losing money

in any races next year

The thing is Tommy that map was confirmed breeding spots in 2011 nae good now t

 

Did Lanarkshire not have its own race last year at 300? Pretty sure it wasn't supported or was the the 370 race?

[dal2]

Not so sure about losing money but its the right idea.imo

Have to try and turn a profit on the shorter races to make it viable. Or get a sponsor

[eastcoaster]

Would have liked to see us keep this programme for 3 years then take it from there . I will send my yearlings with another fed for a wee bit of distance before the nats , but glad they have a comeback race for my late breds .

[Big Davie]

The thing is Tommy that map was confirmed breeding spots in 2011 nae good now t

 

Did Lanarkshire not have its own race last year at 300? Pretty sure it wasn't supported or was the the 370 race?

George

 

Although the map produced is 3 years out of date it still gave the most recent info available and more than any of the other proposals, if their were no inland Nats then it would have been a good programme for the fed to consider.

 

You are correct with regards going themselves last year too Upper Heyford ( 280mls ) and Bedhampton ( 360mls) on their own on June 8th and 21st, these races were poorly supported in Lanarkshire fed but you have to consider that the SNFC had races on the same day from Buckingham and Maidstone which would have taken many entries away from the fed, so I agree it makes perfect sense to go with the SNFC if in fact these races are on in 2015, however my own preference would be for the inland Nats to be dropped from the SNFC race programme completely and let the Feds race to the coast where the fed entries would be far better IMO, for me these inland Nats are killing federation open / duplication racing at 300 - 360 mls and the first inland Nat race especially I s having a detrimental effect on the entries for the gold cup at the end of June , again JMHO

[geordie1234]

George

 

Although the map produced is 3 years out of date it still gave the most recent info available and more than any of the other proposals, if their were no inland Nats then it would have been a good programme for the fed to consider.

 

You are correct with regards going themselves last year too Upper Heyford ( 280mls ) and Bedhampton ( 360mls) on their own on June 8th and 21st, these races were poorly supported in Lanarkshire fed but you have to consider that the SNFC had races on the same day from Buckingham and Maidstone which would have taken many entries away from the fed, so I agree it makes perfect sense to go with the SNFC if in fact these races are on in 2015, however my own preference would be for the inland Nats to be dropped from the SNFC race programme completely and let the Feds race to the coast where the fed entries would be far better IMO, for me these inland Nats are killing federation open / duplication racing at 300 - 360 mls and the first inland Nat race especially I s having a detrimental effect on the entries for the gold cup at the end of June , again JMHO

Very good post Davie

[andy]

If the first inland national is a wee bit tough, I think yous could struggle with your yearlings, with this "sprint" programme, also most didnt get very far as youngsters! I also think this is the reason why there is a lot of losses at the first national due to the fact there is a lot of inexperienced yearlings. Maybe yous should have given the west route at least another year as its straighter. Your back to teaching the birds to fly round corners...JMHO and good luck.

[hotrod]

Derek and Stuart,

 

Alternatively

 

What would you think of putting a race program proposal into the SNFC with Peterborough as the first inland race?

I put this up on here a few years back , but members felt that the races were gettin shorter . But it would get my vote ,although I don't bother with these national races .

[hotrod]

George

 

Although the map produced is 3 years out of date it still gave the most recent info available and more than any of the other proposals, if their were no inland Nats then it would have been a good programme for the fed to consider.

 

You are correct with regards going themselves last year too Upper Heyford ( 280mls ) and Bedhampton ( 360mls) on their own on June 8th and 21st, these races were poorly supported in Lanarkshire fed but you have to consider that the SNFC had races on the same day from Buckingham and Maidstone which would have taken many entries away from the fed, so I agree it makes perfect sense to go with the SNFC if in fact these races are on in 2015, however my own preference would be for the inland Nats to be dropped from the SNFC race programme completely and let the Feds race to the coast where the fed entries would be far better IMO, for me these inland Nats are killing federation open / duplication racing at 300 - 360 mls and the first inland Nat race especially I s having a detrimental effect on the entries for the gold cup at the end of June , again JMHO

Again bang on davie .