Young Bird Racing

[philg50]

Well! well thats my young birds finished before they start ,went out this morning and the birds have been throwin up feed ,sick,obviously nae ane but a few noticed one a bit odd start of week gave it a 3 in 1 pill but it wasnt being sick ,they have exercised well all week and to get this mess this morning has came as a shock ,was going to be puting some to race the night but thats me had it .How the hell can they have gotten this they havent been to a race yet ,have they picked it up off local doos you tell me what you think.Sick waiting for decent weather and gettin this . :cry-blow:

[dal2]

Well! well thats my young birds finished before they start ,went out this morning and the birds have been throwin up feed ,sick,obviously nae ane but a few noticed one a bit odd start of week gave it a 3 in 1 pill but it wasnt being sick ,they have exercised well all week and to get this mess this morning has came as a shock ,was going to be puting some to race the night but thats me had it .How the hell can they have gotten this they havent been to a race yet ,have they picked it up off local doos you tell me what you think.Sick waiting for decent weather and gettin this . :cry-blow:

Manage it proper and yer birds will be right next week

[philg50]

A know fanciers with grill floors to have it in their lofts, obviously they can't pick up regurgitated food which only confuses me more!!

 

IS ANYONE ELSE OF THE OPINION WHEN IT COMES TO YB RACING FANCIERS SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO PUT ALL OF THEIR BIRDS IN THE ONE BASKET AND DO AWAY WITH SPREADING THEM OUT???

 

I know if there's an escape then yer oot the race but better that than having a virus accidently spread through yer team by another fanciers birds.

Our old sec & tresurer 15 year ago tried for this sort of thing in our fed he put forward at the AGM the proposal that each member should pay for a basket naturally he was shot down in flames by the guys that fly 25-100 birds.

[philg50]

Manage it proper and yer birds will be right next week

This is the first time i have had this in the doos ,do you just give them water for 48 hours &vitamins im nae sure about treatments advice would be good thanks

[bigbill]

at our club , we have a choice , to have all birds in own baskets , our go with others ,

[dal2]

at our club , we have a choice , to have all birds in own baskets , our go with others ,

Dont think it matters one bit.

[Tony C]

This is the first time i have had this in the doos ,do you just give them water for 48 hours &vitamins im nae sure about treatments advice would be good thanks

There's no treatment for it. You can give them a 4 in 1 antibiotic to stop other infections jumping on the back of it but I choose not to, I just let it run its course. Rest is the most important thing, locked up for 4-5 days normally does the trick but the best guide is when their droppings return back to normal.

[geordie1234]

In my opinion everyone gets ybs at one point... it's how clued up the fancier is to recognise he has it.

[gulkie]

This is the first time i have had this in the doos ,do you just give them water for 48 hours &vitamins im nae sure about treatments advice would be good thanks

Phil don't know if ur willing to try this ,up to you Virkon- S 1 level teaspoon to 1 gallon of water for 2 days

Do not feed for 48 hrs.leave it with you good luck.

[peter pandy]

Phil don't know if ur willing to try this ,up to you Virkon- S 1 level teaspoon to 1 gallon of water for 2 days

Do not feed for 48 hrs.leave it with you good luck.

 

I have just been given the same advice from a fancier who has had this problem for the past couple of years. You can obtain a packet from any agriculture shop for £2.50.

[lastdrop]

Also spray loft with Virkon -s as often as possible ie. daily. Cleanliness is the starting point of a quick recovery

[BIGPETE]

Im new to the sport so not much experience to offer like some of you lads. But IF ybs is spread by an infected bird vomiting up corn and a non infected bird eating it up and potentially contracting the YBS. Wouldn't transporting yb's in baskets with grilled floors not stop any regurgitated food being eaten? If the sickness can be spread by other means then it may not help, but it could potentially at least reduce the rate of infection spreading in the baskets?

[Guest stb-]

Im new to the sport so not much experience to offer like some of you lads. But IF ybs is spread by an infected bird vomiting up corn and a non infected bird eating it up and potentially contracting the YBS. Wouldn't transporting yb's in baskets with grilled floors not stop any regurgitated food being eaten? If the sickness can be spread by other means then it may not help, but it could potentially at least reduce the rate of infection spreading in the baskets?

Hi Pete i know folk who get it evewry year long before the young birds are ever in basketts and the only birds they would have been in contact with are there ownb old birds

[yeboah]

Hi Pete i know folk who get it evewry year long before the young birds are ever in basketts and the only birds they would have been in contact with are there ownb old birds

Rab the problem (virus) may be on the very grains we feed them

Was feeding Irish mix it was excellent but when next delivery came the company had changed Maize

Birds just did not eat it

[gulkie]

I have just been given the same advice from a fancier who has had this problem for the past couple of years. You can obtain a packet from any agriculture shop for £2.50.

Have u tried it Peter ?

[greenlands]

Have u tried it Peter ?

 

http://www.mclaughlinlofts.com/Secrets_.html

[peter pandy]

Having given the birds wee Walter's potion for 2 days Thursday Friday the sickness ceased, and Saturday I recieved Belgica De Weerd medicine and started their recommended course. To-day the only problem is the droppings which look terrible however the birds themselves are looking better and I have started them on normal feed again. I feel I should pass on to the guys on Basics that I have used Flight Path for the past year and notice in their advertisment that if using their product Monthly as recommended you wont get YB Sickness or other ailments !!. I know I have dissproved that theory and will be contacting Microbial Developements as soon as all is normal in the loft.

[JohnQuinn]

Having given the birds wee Walter's potion for 2 days Thursday Friday the sickness ceased, and Saturday I recieved Belgica De Weerd medicine and started their recommended course. To-day the only problem is the droppings which look terrible however the birds themselves are looking better and I have started them on normal feed again. I feel I should pass on to the guys on Basics that I have used Flight Path for the past year and notice in their advertisment that if using their product Monthly as recommended you wont get YB Sickness or other ailments !!. I know I have dissproved that theory and will be contacting Microbial Developements as soon as all is normal in the loft.

 

 

 

Primalac will sort the droppings out in jig time Peter and re line their gullets with good bacteria whist its at it.

[philg50]

Having given the birds wee Walter's potion for 2 days Thursday Friday the sickness ceased, and Saturday I recieved Belgica De Weerd medicine and started their recommended course. To-day the only problem is the droppings which look terrible however the birds themselves are looking better and I have started them on normal feed again. I feel I should pass on to the guys on Basics that I have used Flight Path for the past year and notice in their advertisment that if using their product Monthly as recommended you wont get YB Sickness or other ailments !!. I know I have dissproved that theory and will be contacting Microbial Developements as soon as all is normal in the loft.

I had same prob as you started Fri morn food thrown up all over place ,cleaned them out disinfected perches ,floor etc ,just stopped feeding gave small amount of potassium permagnate in drinker looking more alert and coming back to normal start feeding in a day or so lightly and we will see how it goes ,but it is a sickener so i know how you had felt,goodluck!!

[peter pandy]

I get the impression their is a stigma attached to this problem but I certainly dont feel that way and wish more would be open about it. As for Tony in an earlier post reccomending to let it run its course and do nothing well one of my mates did exactly that and when they started dropping DEAD did he go to the vet. He lost quite a few and ended up with losing the lot as Yearlings. Please dont give false information about a serious problem which is affecting many but being shoved under the carpet so their racing can continue.

[Tony C]

Primalac will sort the droppings out in jig time Peter and re line their gullets with good bacteria whist its at it.

 

http://www.djhawkins.co.uk/hello.htm

Have heard many a good report on this product used in aftercare.

 

 

As far as I'm aware y/b/s is classified as a virus and again as far as I'm aware the only way to prevent a virus is vaccination. If both these points are true there's nothing that comes out of a bottle or tub that will prevent it. There's a few people/firms out there making a good few quid on the back of this, money better spent on aftercare.

[greenlands]

http://pigeons.mercasystems.com/index.php/belgica-de-weerd-pigeons-products-cobel-adeno-coli-infections.html

 

 

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[dal2]

I get the impression their is a stigma attached to this problem but I certainly dont feel that way and wish more would be open about it. As for Tony in an earlier post reccomending to let it run its course and do nothing well one of my mates did exactly that and when they started dropping DEAD did he go to the vet. He lost quite a few and ended up with losing the lot as Yearlings. Please dont give false information about a serious problem which is affecting many but being shoved under the carpet so their racing can continue.

I aint sure ye need a load of drugs to cure something that we dont understand?? Think that was what tony was trying to put forward

[Delboy]

http://www.djhawkins.co.uk/hello.htm

Have heard many a good report on this product used in aftercare.

 

 

As far as I'm aware y/b/s is classified as a virus and again as far as I'm aware the only way to prevent a virus is vaccination. If both these points are true there's nothing that comes out of a bottle or tub that will prevent it. There's a few people/firms out there making a good few quid on the back of this, money better spent on aftercare.

 

Spot on Tony, a virus cant be cured with antibiotics or anything else BUT the secondry infections that follow ( because the immune system is down ) are the major problems that usually needs the medicine cabinet.Not all the time though.

[William Reid]

I get the impression their is a stigma attached to this problem but I certainly dont feel that way and wish more would be open about it. As for Tony in an earlier post reccomending to let it run its course and do nothing well one of my mates did exactly that and when they started dropping DEAD did he go to the vet. He lost quite a few and ended up with losing the lot as Yearlings. Please dont give false information about a serious problem which is affecting many but being shoved under the carpet so their racing can continue.

Totally agree mate . What ever medication you decide to use with out advice from a vet which most pigeon fanciers do should show improvement in 24-48hrs