geordie1234 Posted June 15, 2014 Report Posted June 15, 2014 Robert I have never stated east is better but we all know were the fed will be racing from next season so lets give next years yearlings a head start and get them down there as ybs The amount of guys who won't be sending west with ybs is unreal even heard today one whole club won't be going with us
HOMER49 Posted June 15, 2014 Report Posted June 15, 2014 Well see if everybody sung off the the same hymn sheet and done their bit we could have a trouble free route home for our birds fact is east west north south no different between them and if you look where lanarkshires race points are maybe we should try going truely west instead of Central but jmo Hi PeterThought you would be to young to remember Annan,Maryport,Kirkam,Millon cant mind the last oneyes started with no more than 24 y/bs and you onlylost 1 or 2 in the season o happy days Problem is you can only go as far as Barrow in Furnacethen you hit North WalesCheersHomer 49
Delboy Posted June 15, 2014 Report Posted June 15, 2014 Robert I have never stated east is better but we all know were the fed will be racing from next season so lets give next years yearlings a head start and get them down there as ybs The amount of guys who won't be sending west with ybs is unreal even heard today one whole club won't be going with us I agree with ye George but whats to stop your members changing again next year.If they go east then they should stick at it for at least 3 years imo. All yer birds that have been down the west this year might get lost next year on the east so you are correct, get the ybs down east if u are defo going there next year.omho
geordie1234 Posted June 15, 2014 Report Posted June 15, 2014 Personally I would like to see something imposed at the agm that the programme has to stay the same for 3 seasons atleast
Delboy Posted June 15, 2014 Report Posted June 15, 2014 Personally I would like to see something imposed at the agm that the programme has to stay the same for 3 seasons atleast That's a change to constitution, LETTER must be in 14 days before AGM.
geordie1234 Posted June 15, 2014 Report Posted June 15, 2014 Heard that Blantyre won't be sending at all with the lrpf at all down the west?
peter2010 Posted June 16, 2014 Report Posted June 16, 2014 Hi PeterThought you would be to young to remember Annan,Maryport,Kirkam,Millon cant mind the last oneyes started with no more than 24 y/bs and you onlylost 1 or 2 in the season o happy days Problem is you can only go as far as Barrow in Furnacethen you hit North WalesCheersHomer 49No but I can remember racing from Hexham consett and Newcastle with young birds short memories comes to mind enough said I think
Guest WINGS 04 Posted June 16, 2014 Report Posted June 16, 2014 I agree with ye George but whats to stop your members changing again next year.If they go east then they should stick at it for at least 3 years imo. All yer birds that have been down the west this year might get lost next year on the east so you are correct, get the ybs down east if u are defo going there next year.omho Thats P*** Delboy they have gone east to west and back you dont loss your birds any more than going down one rouet
Novice Posted June 16, 2014 Report Posted June 16, 2014 Having raced down both sides of the Pennines (that was for the benefit of Stuart) losses are similar on both routes.I would suggest that returns on the west have been better this year (to my loft) even though some of the birds return later showing signs of hawk attacks. I have had very few returning late when we raced down the east. I assume this is because when they meet an obstacle on the east side of the Pennines they cannot navigate west because of the wall of hills so their choice is to turn through 180 degrees and fly south or to attempt to fly round the obstacle by navigating east where there is a fair possibility that they will become exhausted over the sea. Basically we need to address the raptor problem in the west by restricting the food supply at peak demand times then race down the natural route where we actually have an idea which flight path the birds will follow.
Delboy Posted June 16, 2014 Report Posted June 16, 2014 Thats P*** Delboy they have gone east to west and back you dont loss your birds any more than going down one rouet Well aw yer doos flown on the east last year as obs are lost down the west this year, are they not ?? or this thread wouldny be posted??
tyson Posted June 16, 2014 Report Posted June 16, 2014 if you go east with your young birds and you end upwith heavy losses like what happened in the past what then are you going to do ?? I think the fanciers really have to look in the mirror at the quality of birds that are being sent are they healthy are they fit enough there always quick enough to blame a route when the problem could be themselfs by sending unfit and unhealthy birds down the road
blue pied Posted June 16, 2014 Report Posted June 16, 2014 if you go east with your young birds and you end upwith heavy losses like what happened in the past what then are you going to do ?? I think the fanciers really have to look in the mirror at the quality of birds that are being sent are they healthy are they fit enough there always quick enough to blame a route when the problem could be themselfs by sending unfit and unhealthy birds down the roadamen
moscow master Posted June 16, 2014 Report Posted June 16, 2014 lanarkshires falling into the same rut as ayrshire chopping and changing every year this is the shxt ive to put up with down here it makes no difference where you go if your luck out its out simple as that imo the only people in my fed that want to go east claiming theres no bop there are the ones with a slight advantage on there near neighbours as reguards the way the birds come into the fed from the east am too long in the wids to be standing on bears shxt !! well all know you gan get hammered from a short toss never mind a race i know ive had it
robbiedoo. Posted June 16, 2014 Report Posted June 16, 2014 if you go east with your young birds and you end upwith heavy losses like what happened in the past what then are you going to do ?? I think the fanciers really have to look in the mirror at the quality of birds that are being sent are they healthy are they fit enough there always quick enough to blame a route when the problem could be themselfs by sending unfit and unhealthy birds down the road Amen remember the 98% rule
walterboswell59 Posted June 16, 2014 Report Posted June 16, 2014 amen if they stand and look in there club baskets they will see why there birds are not getting home m8
We man Posted June 16, 2014 Report Posted June 16, 2014 Having raced down both sides of the Pennines (that was for the benefit of Stuart) losses are similar on both routes.I would suggest that returns on the west have been better this year (to my loft) even though some of the birds return later showing signs of hawk attacks. I have had very few returning late when we raced down the east. I assume this is because when they meet an obstacle on the east side of the Pennines they cannot navigate west because of the wall of hills so their choice is to turn through 180 degrees and fly south or to attempt to fly round the obstacle by navigating east where there is a fair possibility that they will become exhausted over the sea. Basically we need to address the raptor problem in the west by restricting the food supply at peak demand times then race down the natural route where we actually have an idea which flight path the birds will follow.Hear Here,the one word which stands out is the "Natural"route JMO.
tommy bhoys Posted June 16, 2014 Report Posted June 16, 2014 if they stand and look in there club baskets they will see why there birds are not getting home m8you still trying tae plug ur magic potion watty ????
geordie1234 Posted June 16, 2014 Report Posted June 16, 2014 you still trying tae plug ur magic potion watty ???? Tommy is it true Blantyre won't be racing ybs down the west?
tommy bhoys Posted June 16, 2014 Report Posted June 16, 2014 Tommy is it true Blantyre won't be racing ybs down the west?cant say for sure george but was asked and i said i was willing to go with the majority but will be racing tae appleby with greenfield club
jonl6280 Posted June 16, 2014 Report Posted June 16, 2014 Why was the route changed from east to west last year ?
Guest chad3646 Posted June 16, 2014 Report Posted June 16, 2014 Hear Here,the one word which stands out is the "Natural"route JMO. the natural route, the winds determine the route every race jmo
geordie1234 Posted June 16, 2014 Report Posted June 16, 2014 cant say for sure george but was asked and i said i was willing to go with the majority but will be racing tae appleby with greenfield club Cheers mate
walterboswell59 Posted June 16, 2014 Report Posted June 16, 2014 Tommy is it true Blantyre won't be racing ybs down the west?naw tommy just trying to tell them if ye dont treat yer beat i dont care what the rest do and im the one way aw the doos left east or west yer pm box is full tommy but thats fine for wed ill bring james up at five
walterboswell59 Posted June 16, 2014 Report Posted June 16, 2014 Why was the route changed from east to west last year ?theve changed it that many times they forget why they want it changed jon
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