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just goes to show how far behind we are up here.can you imagine the n.f.c or the b.i.c.c lads marking birds in a greenhouse with no facilities.what a joke.there should only be 1 national organisation in scotland, end of story.brand new top of range transporter and beter prize money if this happened.

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Gareth surely the newmains marking station is more suitable than Newhouse with a bit of organisation the truck could sit down in the car park for loading the members park in the health centre and a one way system could be set up for the Waiting memberswith there birds. There are also welfare facilities on site including a bar umpteen kebab and chip shops to hand as a bonus.

 

IMO the use of 'private' marking stations is one of issues that prevents the SNFC having the flexibility to bring forward or push back marking days to take account of weekend weather forecasts. Pigeon clubs with suitable facilities offer a much more flexible alternative. Also if there is to be a hall hire fee, better in a pigeon club's bank account than a private concern's.

 

The other flexibility issue (for channel races) is the continued use of channel ferries, and its rigid booking system. There is a rail alternative which allows the booking to be used on any train on any of 3 consecutive days which e.g. allows marking to be brought forward or pushed back up to 3 days. JMO

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just goes to show how far behind we are up here.can you imagine the n.f.c or the b.i.c.c lads marking birds in a greenhouse with no facilities.what a joke.there should only be 1 national organisation in scotland, end of story.brand new top of range transporter and beter prize money if this happened.

There is only one

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There is no true one in scotland

The original in all cases is the true one , any others should be classed as specialist clubs just same as there is nfc then theres the north east national the midlands national etc which are only specialist club races

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only a idiot would say they gave a 110% percent.emoticon-0138-thinking.gif as there is no such thinganimatedpigeons.gif it was options that i said, that was never discussed with the owners of the birds. and for by there ain't no word of it, from your Micky mouse site.emoticon-0167-beer.gif

Your the same cabbage that went on about a liberation that the northwest had at Hexham and hadn't your facts right your just a trouble maker and needing to keep your gob shut if you can't talk sense

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Your the same cabbage that went on about a liberation that the northwest had at Hexham and hadn't your facts right your just a trouble maker and needing to keep your gob shut if you can't talk sense

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Your the same cabbage that went on about a liberation that the northwest had at Hexham and hadn't your facts right your just a trouble maker and needing to keep your gob shut if you can't talk sense

 

Come on now Transporter don't be so hard on Bigda, he's only speaking for his invisible Pilgrims you must have had an invisible friend when you were a kid we all had one, but he's still got his.

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If the race go's ahead and Lanarkshire area has a real bad race there will be lot more to say. THE RACE SHOULD'NT GO AHEAD AT ALL AFTER THIS

 

 

you are correct mate, laugh.gif and as money is the route to all evil, this will leave a trail

no good sitting with 130 k in the bank, and not getting a £300 pound hall this race alone, the nat has £12,000 from, cheap ohmy.gif skates if you ask me.laugh.giflaugh.giflaugh.gif

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correct bigda it costs you 100 and odd pounds just to hire the local council halls, so i dont think 300 pounds is much when they have all that money in the bank, and they all used to talk about henderson with the money :emoticon-0140-rofl:

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just goes to show how far behind we are up here.can you imagine the n.f.c or the b.i.c.c lads marking birds in a greenhouse with no facilities.what a joke.there should only be 1 national organisation in scotland, end of story.brand new top of range transporter and beter prize money if this happened.

 

 

and what one would that be ???

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I spoke with Phil Lynch and Andrew Garven yesterday, AFTER the vet had visited the transporters and examined the birds in those baskets. The Vet could not have been more complimentary about the condition of the birds and was satisfied that whatever substance the FEW!! birds ingested had done no harm to them. They were bright eyed, showing no signs of "hanging", vomiting or any other indication that the birds were less than healthy and fit to race. A written report will be sent from this vet and will be available for fanciers to read on the SNFC website, probably by the middle of the week.

You can argue all you like about what YOU think should have happened but offering birds back to fanciers who were back in the house was clearly NOT an option.

Be assured if i had wanted to withdraw my birds they would have been identified and taken out of the baskets whether sealed or otherwise. Their MY doos and it was MY decision to leave them there, the same option was available to everyone still present but Tam was correct when stating NOT ONE fancier asked for their birds to be removed from these baskets.

IMO the SNFC committee have acted in an exemplary fashion in this difficult situation and have taken ALL reasonable and available measures to them to ensure the birds are ok.

 

I have just re read this entire thread and the most significant thing i notice is that those who are most Critical weren't even present, that however is typical of Fanciers everywhere, they ALL know better than the men who have to take decisions and would be more decisive, correct in every decision they made and above the very Criticism they so willingly dish out at every opportunity. Mind you they never put their hands up to take on a position where they could actually have an input to the running of the sport, however that's no surprise either!!!

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I spoke with Phil Lynch and Andrew Garven yesterday, AFTER the vet had visited the transporters and examined the birds in those baskets. The Vet could not have been more complimentary about the condition of the birds and was satisfied that whatever substance the FEW!! birds ingested had done no harm to them. They were bright eyed, showing no signs of "hanging", vomiting or any other indication that the birds were less than healthy and fit to race. A written report will be sent from this vet and will be available for fanciers to read on the SNFC website, probably by the middle of the week.

You can argue all you like about what YOU think should have happened but offering birds back to fanciers who were back in the house was clearly NOT an option.

Be assured if i had wanted to withdraw my birds they would have been identified and taken out of the baskets whether sealed or otherwise. Their MY doos and it was MY decision to leave them there, the same option was available to everyone still present but Tam was correct when stating NOT ONE fancier asked for their birds to be removed from these baskets.

IMO the SNFC committee have acted in an exemplary fashion in this difficult situation and have taken ALL reasonable and available measures to them to ensure the birds are ok.

 

I have just re read this entire thread and the most significant thing i notice is that those who are most Critical weren't even present, that however is typical of Fanciers everywhere, they ALL know better than the men who have to take decisions and would be more decisive, correct in every decision they made and above the very Criticism they so willingly dish out at every opportunity. Mind you they never put their hands up to take on a position where they could actually have an input to the running of the sport, however that's no surprise either!!!

 

Well said John

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I spoke with Phil Lynch and Andrew Garven yesterday, AFTER the vet had visited the transporters and examined the birds in those baskets. The Vet could not have been more complimentary about the condition of the birds and was satisfied that whatever substance the FEW!! birds ingested had done no harm to them. They were bright eyed, showing no signs of "hanging", vomiting or any other indication that the birds were less than healthy and fit to race. A written report will be sent from this vet and will be available for fanciers to read on the SNFC website, probably by the middle of the week.

You can argue all you like about what YOU think should have happened but offering birds back to fanciers who were back in the house was clearly NOT an option.

Be assured if i had wanted to withdraw my birds they would have been identified and taken out of the baskets whether sealed or otherwise. Their MY doos and it was MY decision to leave them there, the same option was available to everyone still present but Tam was correct when stating NOT ONE fancier asked for their birds to be removed from these baskets.

IMO the SNFC committee have acted in an exemplary fashion in this difficult situation and have taken ALL reasonable and available measures to them to ensure the birds are ok.

 

I have just re read this entire thread and the most significant thing i notice is that those who are most Critical weren't even present, that however is typical of Fanciers everywhere, they ALL know better than the men who have to take decisions and would be more decisive, correct in every decision they made and above the very Criticism they so willingly dish out at every opportunity. Mind you they never put their hands up to take on a position where they could actually have an input to the running of the sport, however that's no surprise either!!!

never a truer word said john :emoticon-0137-clapping:

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I spoke with Phil Lynch and Andrew Garven yesterday, AFTER the vet had visited the transporters and examined the birds in those baskets. The Vet could not have been more complimentary about the condition of the birds and was satisfied that whatever substance the FEW!! birds ingested had done no harm to them. They were bright eyed, showing no signs of "hanging", vomiting or any other indication that the birds were less than healthy and fit to race. A written report will be sent from this vet and will be available for fanciers to read on the SNFC website, probably by the middle of the week.

You can argue all you like about what YOU think should have happened but offering birds back to fanciers who were back in the house was clearly NOT an option.

Be assured if i had wanted to withdraw my birds they would have been identified and taken out of the baskets whether sealed or otherwise. Their MY doos and it was MY decision to leave them there, the same option was available to everyone still present but Tam was correct when stating NOT ONE fancier asked for their birds to be removed from these baskets.

IMO the SNFC committee have acted in an exemplary fashion in this difficult situation and have taken ALL reasonable and available measures to them to ensure the birds are ok.

 

I have just re read this entire thread and the most significant thing i notice is that those who are most Critical weren't even present, that however is typical of Fanciers everywhere, they ALL know better than the men who have to take decisions and would be more decisive, correct in every decision they made and above the very Criticism they so willingly dish out at every opportunity. Mind you they never put their hands up to take on a position where they could actually have an input to the running of the sport, however that's no surprise either!!!

:emoticon-0137-clapping: :emoticon-0137-clapping: :emoticon-0137-clapping: well said that man

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I spoke with Phil Lynch and Andrew Garven yesterday, AFTER the vet had visited the transporters and examined the birds in those baskets. The Vet could not have been more complimentary about the condition of the birds and was satisfied that whatever substance the FEW!! birds ingested had done no harm to them. They were bright eyed, showing no signs of "hanging", vomiting or any other indication that the birds were less than healthy and fit to race. A written report will be sent from this vet and will be available for fanciers to read on the SNFC website, probably by the middle of the week.

You can argue all you like about what YOU think should have happened but offering birds back to fanciers who were back in the house was clearly NOT an option.

Be assured if i had wanted to withdraw my birds they would have been identified and taken out of the baskets whether sealed or otherwise. Their MY doos and it was MY decision to leave them there, the same option was available to everyone still present but Tam was correct when stating NOT ONE fancier asked for their birds to be removed from these baskets.

IMO the SNFC committee have acted in an exemplary fashion in this difficult situation and have taken ALL reasonable and available measures to them to ensure the birds are ok.

 

I have just re read this entire thread and the most significant thing i notice is that those who are most Critical weren't even present, that however is typical of Fanciers everywhere, they ALL know better than the men who have to take decisions and would be more decisive, correct in every decision they made and above the very Criticism they so willingly dish out at every opportunity. Mind you they never put their hands up to take on a position where they could actually have an input to the running of the sport, however that's no surprise either!!!

Excellent reply John and I'm sure you and all the committee will learn from this unfortunate situation.

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Excellent reply John and I'm sure you and all the committee will learn from this unfortunate situation.

 

I'm not on the SNFC Committee now Andy, have far too much to do in Lanarkshire at the moment. I would like to become involved again in the not too distant future but for this season and maybe next i simply don't have the time.

I support the present officials 100% in this though and to a man they have done their level best with what was an unprecedented situation.

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I'm not on the SNFC Committee now Andy, have far too much to do in Lanarkshire at the moment. I would like to become involved again in the not too distant future but for this season and maybe next i simply don't have the time.

I support the present officials 100% in this though and to a man they have done their level best with what was an unprecedented situation.

Agree it was.

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