fodencat Posted June 22, 2013 Report Share Posted June 22, 2013 just goes to show how far behind we are up here.can you imagine the n.f.c or the b.i.c.c lads marking birds in a greenhouse with no facilities.what a joke.there should only be 1 national organisation in scotland, end of story.brand new top of range transporter and beter prize money if this happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest IB Posted June 22, 2013 Report Share Posted June 22, 2013 Gareth surely the newmains marking station is more suitable than Newhouse with a bit of organisation the truck could sit down in the car park for loading the members park in the health centre and a one way system could be set up for the Waiting memberswith there birds. There are also welfare facilities on site including a bar umpteen kebab and chip shops to hand as a bonus. IMO the use of 'private' marking stations is one of issues that prevents the SNFC having the flexibility to bring forward or push back marking days to take account of weekend weather forecasts. Pigeon clubs with suitable facilities offer a much more flexible alternative. Also if there is to be a hall hire fee, better in a pigeon club's bank account than a private concern's. The other flexibility issue (for channel races) is the continued use of channel ferries, and its rigid booking system. There is a rail alternative which allows the booking to be used on any train on any of 3 consecutive days which e.g. allows marking to be brought forward or pushed back up to 3 days. JMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dal2 Posted June 22, 2013 Report Share Posted June 22, 2013 just goes to show how far behind we are up here.can you imagine the n.f.c or the b.i.c.c lads marking birds in a greenhouse with no facilities.what a joke.there should only be 1 national organisation in scotland, end of story.brand new top of range transporter and beter prize money if this happened.There is only one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VMS Posted June 22, 2013 Report Share Posted June 22, 2013 There is only oneThere is no true one in scotland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stb- Posted June 22, 2013 Report Share Posted June 22, 2013 There is only onetherecan be only one highlander Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stb- Posted June 22, 2013 Report Share Posted June 22, 2013 There is no true one in scotland The original in all cases is the true one , any others should be classed as specialist clubs just same as there is nfc then theres the north east national the midlands national etc which are only specialist club races Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Transporter Posted June 22, 2013 Report Share Posted June 22, 2013 only a idiot would say they gave a 110% percent. as there is no such thing it was options that i said, that was never discussed with the owners of the birds. and for by there ain't no word of it, from your Micky mouse site.Your the same cabbage that went on about a liberation that the northwest had at Hexham and hadn't your facts right your just a trouble maker and needing to keep your gob shut if you can't talk sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiger Posted June 22, 2013 Report Share Posted June 22, 2013 Your the same cabbage that went on about a liberation that the northwest had at Hexham and hadn't your facts right your just a trouble maker and needing to keep your gob shut if you can't talk sense :emoticon-0137-clapping: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harry h Posted June 22, 2013 Report Share Posted June 22, 2013 Your the same cabbage that went on about a liberation that the northwest had at Hexham and hadn't your facts right your just a trouble maker and needing to keep your gob shut if you can't talk sense Come on now Transporter don't be so hard on Bigda, he's only speaking for his invisible Pilgrims you must have had an invisible friend when you were a kid we all had one, but he's still got his. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Chequer Pied Posted June 22, 2013 Report Share Posted June 22, 2013 Come on now Transporter don't be so hard on Bigda, he's only speaking for his invisible Pilgrims you must have had an invisible friend when you were a kid we all had one, but he's still got his. :emoticon-0136-giggle: :emoticon-0136-giggle: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueCheqWF Posted June 22, 2013 Report Share Posted June 22, 2013 If the race go's ahead and Lanarkshire area has a real bad race there will be lot more to say. THE RACE SHOULD'NT GO AHEAD AT ALL AFTER THIS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bigda Posted June 22, 2013 Report Share Posted June 22, 2013 If the race go's ahead and Lanarkshire area has a real bad race there will be lot more to say. THE RACE SHOULD'NT GO AHEAD AT ALL AFTER THIS you are correct mate, and as money is the route to all evil, this will leave a trail no good sitting with 130 k in the bank, and not getting a £300 pound hall this race alone, the nat has £12,000 from, cheap skates if you ask me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chad3646 Posted June 22, 2013 Report Share Posted June 22, 2013 correct bigda it costs you 100 and odd pounds just to hire the local council halls, so i dont think 300 pounds is much when they have all that money in the bank, and they all used to talk about henderson with the money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novo10 Posted June 22, 2013 Report Share Posted June 22, 2013 If the race go's ahead and Lanarkshire area has a real bad race there will be lot more to say. THE RACE SHOULD'NT GO AHEAD AT ALL AFTER THISAndy what happens if they have a good race Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chad3646 Posted June 22, 2013 Report Share Posted June 22, 2013 just goes to show how far behind we are up here.can you imagine the n.f.c or the b.i.c.c lads marking birds in a greenhouse with no facilities.what a joke.there should only be 1 national organisation in scotland, end of story.brand new top of range transporter and beter prize money if this happened. and what one would that be ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordie1234 Posted June 22, 2013 Report Share Posted June 22, 2013 Is there any chance of a Sunday lib? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted June 22, 2013 Report Share Posted June 22, 2013 Is there any chance of a Sunday lib? NAW :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnQuinn Posted June 22, 2013 Report Share Posted June 22, 2013 I spoke with Phil Lynch and Andrew Garven yesterday, AFTER the vet had visited the transporters and examined the birds in those baskets. The Vet could not have been more complimentary about the condition of the birds and was satisfied that whatever substance the FEW!! birds ingested had done no harm to them. They were bright eyed, showing no signs of "hanging", vomiting or any other indication that the birds were less than healthy and fit to race. A written report will be sent from this vet and will be available for fanciers to read on the SNFC website, probably by the middle of the week.You can argue all you like about what YOU think should have happened but offering birds back to fanciers who were back in the house was clearly NOT an option. Be assured if i had wanted to withdraw my birds they would have been identified and taken out of the baskets whether sealed or otherwise. Their MY doos and it was MY decision to leave them there, the same option was available to everyone still present but Tam was correct when stating NOT ONE fancier asked for their birds to be removed from these baskets.IMO the SNFC committee have acted in an exemplary fashion in this difficult situation and have taken ALL reasonable and available measures to them to ensure the birds are ok. I have just re read this entire thread and the most significant thing i notice is that those who are most Critical weren't even present, that however is typical of Fanciers everywhere, they ALL know better than the men who have to take decisions and would be more decisive, correct in every decision they made and above the very Criticism they so willingly dish out at every opportunity. Mind you they never put their hands up to take on a position where they could actually have an input to the running of the sport, however that's no surprise either!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delboy Posted June 22, 2013 Report Share Posted June 22, 2013 I spoke with Phil Lynch and Andrew Garven yesterday, AFTER the vet had visited the transporters and examined the birds in those baskets. The Vet could not have been more complimentary about the condition of the birds and was satisfied that whatever substance the FEW!! birds ingested had done no harm to them. They were bright eyed, showing no signs of "hanging", vomiting or any other indication that the birds were less than healthy and fit to race. A written report will be sent from this vet and will be available for fanciers to read on the SNFC website, probably by the middle of the week.You can argue all you like about what YOU think should have happened but offering birds back to fanciers who were back in the house was clearly NOT an option. Be assured if i had wanted to withdraw my birds they would have been identified and taken out of the baskets whether sealed or otherwise. Their MY doos and it was MY decision to leave them there, the same option was available to everyone still present but Tam was correct when stating NOT ONE fancier asked for their birds to be removed from these baskets.IMO the SNFC committee have acted in an exemplary fashion in this difficult situation and have taken ALL reasonable and available measures to them to ensure the birds are ok. I have just re read this entire thread and the most significant thing i notice is that those who are most Critical weren't even present, that however is typical of Fanciers everywhere, they ALL know better than the men who have to take decisions and would be more decisive, correct in every decision they made and above the very Criticism they so willingly dish out at every opportunity. Mind you they never put their hands up to take on a position where they could actually have an input to the running of the sport, however that's no surprise either!!! Well said John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aye ready Posted June 22, 2013 Report Share Posted June 22, 2013 I spoke with Phil Lynch and Andrew Garven yesterday, AFTER the vet had visited the transporters and examined the birds in those baskets. The Vet could not have been more complimentary about the condition of the birds and was satisfied that whatever substance the FEW!! birds ingested had done no harm to them. They were bright eyed, showing no signs of "hanging", vomiting or any other indication that the birds were less than healthy and fit to race. A written report will be sent from this vet and will be available for fanciers to read on the SNFC website, probably by the middle of the week.You can argue all you like about what YOU think should have happened but offering birds back to fanciers who were back in the house was clearly NOT an option. Be assured if i had wanted to withdraw my birds they would have been identified and taken out of the baskets whether sealed or otherwise. Their MY doos and it was MY decision to leave them there, the same option was available to everyone still present but Tam was correct when stating NOT ONE fancier asked for their birds to be removed from these baskets.IMO the SNFC committee have acted in an exemplary fashion in this difficult situation and have taken ALL reasonable and available measures to them to ensure the birds are ok. I have just re read this entire thread and the most significant thing i notice is that those who are most Critical weren't even present, that however is typical of Fanciers everywhere, they ALL know better than the men who have to take decisions and would be more decisive, correct in every decision they made and above the very Criticism they so willingly dish out at every opportunity. Mind you they never put their hands up to take on a position where they could actually have an input to the running of the sport, however that's no surprise either!!!never a truer word said john Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammy Posted June 22, 2013 Report Share Posted June 22, 2013 I spoke with Phil Lynch and Andrew Garven yesterday, AFTER the vet had visited the transporters and examined the birds in those baskets. The Vet could not have been more complimentary about the condition of the birds and was satisfied that whatever substance the FEW!! birds ingested had done no harm to them. They were bright eyed, showing no signs of "hanging", vomiting or any other indication that the birds were less than healthy and fit to race. A written report will be sent from this vet and will be available for fanciers to read on the SNFC website, probably by the middle of the week.You can argue all you like about what YOU think should have happened but offering birds back to fanciers who were back in the house was clearly NOT an option. Be assured if i had wanted to withdraw my birds they would have been identified and taken out of the baskets whether sealed or otherwise. Their MY doos and it was MY decision to leave them there, the same option was available to everyone still present but Tam was correct when stating NOT ONE fancier asked for their birds to be removed from these baskets.IMO the SNFC committee have acted in an exemplary fashion in this difficult situation and have taken ALL reasonable and available measures to them to ensure the birds are ok. I have just re read this entire thread and the most significant thing i notice is that those who are most Critical weren't even present, that however is typical of Fanciers everywhere, they ALL know better than the men who have to take decisions and would be more decisive, correct in every decision they made and above the very Criticism they so willingly dish out at every opportunity. Mind you they never put their hands up to take on a position where they could actually have an input to the running of the sport, however that's no surprise either!!! :emoticon-0137-clapping: well said that man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whats it called Cumbernauld Posted June 22, 2013 Report Share Posted June 22, 2013 :emoticon-0137-clapping: well said that man Bump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy Posted June 22, 2013 Report Share Posted June 22, 2013 I spoke with Phil Lynch and Andrew Garven yesterday, AFTER the vet had visited the transporters and examined the birds in those baskets. The Vet could not have been more complimentary about the condition of the birds and was satisfied that whatever substance the FEW!! birds ingested had done no harm to them. They were bright eyed, showing no signs of "hanging", vomiting or any other indication that the birds were less than healthy and fit to race. A written report will be sent from this vet and will be available for fanciers to read on the SNFC website, probably by the middle of the week.You can argue all you like about what YOU think should have happened but offering birds back to fanciers who were back in the house was clearly NOT an option. Be assured if i had wanted to withdraw my birds they would have been identified and taken out of the baskets whether sealed or otherwise. Their MY doos and it was MY decision to leave them there, the same option was available to everyone still present but Tam was correct when stating NOT ONE fancier asked for their birds to be removed from these baskets.IMO the SNFC committee have acted in an exemplary fashion in this difficult situation and have taken ALL reasonable and available measures to them to ensure the birds are ok. I have just re read this entire thread and the most significant thing i notice is that those who are most Critical weren't even present, that however is typical of Fanciers everywhere, they ALL know better than the men who have to take decisions and would be more decisive, correct in every decision they made and above the very Criticism they so willingly dish out at every opportunity. Mind you they never put their hands up to take on a position where they could actually have an input to the running of the sport, however that's no surprise either!!!Excellent reply John and I'm sure you and all the committee will learn from this unfortunate situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnQuinn Posted June 22, 2013 Report Share Posted June 22, 2013 Excellent reply John and I'm sure you and all the committee will learn from this unfortunate situation. I'm not on the SNFC Committee now Andy, have far too much to do in Lanarkshire at the moment. I would like to become involved again in the not too distant future but for this season and maybe next i simply don't have the time.I support the present officials 100% in this though and to a man they have done their level best with what was an unprecedented situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy Posted June 22, 2013 Report Share Posted June 22, 2013 I'm not on the SNFC Committee now Andy, have far too much to do in Lanarkshire at the moment. I would like to become involved again in the not too distant future but for this season and maybe next i simply don't have the time.I support the present officials 100% in this though and to a man they have done their level best with what was an unprecedented situation.Agree it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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