Ets Set Up.

[walterboswell59]

Rule says pads must be within the confines of the loft, therefore your traps are fine as the pads are within your loft

not in scotland shu rules bird must be trapped

[dal2]

not in scotland shu rules bird must be trapped

How do you trap them if you use open door and ets?

[kirky]

i would wait and see what new rules get passed this weekend, we all might have to make changes.

[clockman]

not in scotland shu rules bird must be trapped

 

 

what is the rule number?

[wullie semple]

if the bird can time then fly away your trap is not legal as it was not trapped when timed im afraid thats why its bobs then pad

s h u rule is e t s can only record the arrival time after the pigeon has entered the loft does not state bobs should be inside or outside

[greenlands]

RPRA rule 241. The positioning of the ETS sensors/

antennae will not be allowed on any landing

boards or other external surfaces in such a

way that when the loft is closed no

electronic chip ring may be recorded by the

Electronic Timing System installed. Club

Officials may make random checks at any

time. Contravention of this rule will result in

disciplinary action under Rule 70(a).

 

No mention of bob wires ??

[Guest pigeongirl]

So by RPRA rule 241 you are breaking no union law with your trap.

[billt]

So by RPRA rule 241 you are breaking no union law with your trap.

 

I think that is breaking the rule as it say's, No timing outside a closed loft, which it would be outside of the bobs, I don't think their wording of this rule is very clearly written

[Guest pigeongirl]

I think that is breaking the rule as it say's, No timing outside a closed loft, which it would be outside of the bobs, I don't think their wording of this rule is very clearly written

 

i agree not very clear but to me if the loft doors where closed then this trap is legal. i am in the middle of remaking my trap when its finished i will send you a photo. but i will say my bobs are in front of my pad as i have a trap like an outter aviary built on the front of my loft and it is legal before you ask.

 

i am only giving putting my thoughts to it. if in too much doubt email the union u fly from a picture and ask if it is a legal ets trap.

[geordie1234]

Greenlands just put some bobs at the front then its fine simple mate looks good anyway mate all the best

[billt]

i agree not very clear but to me if the loft doors where closed then this trap is legal. i am in the middle of remaking my trap when its finished i will send you a photo. but i will say my bobs are in front of my pad as i have a trap like an outter aviary built on the front of my loft and it is legal before you ask.

 

i am only giving putting my thoughts to it. if in too much doubt email the union u fly from a picture and ask if it is a legal ets trap.

 

Obviously yours are legal as your pads are behind the bobs and the birds would be trapped, I presume you are saying he could shut the door behind the bird

[dal2]

How do you trap them if you use open door and ets?

[cemetary]

Lindsays are still within the loft, whats all the fuss about, hes no breaking any rules.

[dal2]

Lindsays are still within the loft, whats all the fuss about, hes no breaking any rules.

yip

[Guest pigeongirl]

Obviously yours are legal as your pads are behind the bobs and the birds would be trapped, I presume you are saying he could shut the door behind the bird

 

now now no need to be sarcastic. But yes they could shut the door behind them but also in my old loft i had the ets pad infront of the bobs in the corridor of the loft and was also told it was legal as it was not on an external landing board but I dont fly RPRA and wouldnt like to point someone in the wrong direction.

 

i aint getting into an argument i am only expressing my opinion. so i will leave it at that.

 

If in doubt ask your union or ask your federation or regional representative.

[billt]

Lindsays are still within the loft, whats all the fuss about, hes no breaking any rules.

 

I don't know if your rules there are different but that set-up would be illegal in Wales

[cemetary]

I don't know if your rules there are different but that set-up would be illegal in Wales

 

 

It would only have to be in Wales then, but his is correct, its within the confinements of the loft.

[walterboswell59]

How do you trap them if you use open door and ets?

close door behind bird or have a box with bobs and pad inside dal if not you leave your self open to objection

[billt]

close door behind bird or have a box with bobs and pad inside dal if not you leave your self open to objection

 

Yes, it's the bird that has to be confined for timing, I presume this rule is to make it fair to members using clocks

[cemetary]

Ave been to some pigeon huts where guys fly open doors, what the have is, the pad in the hut obviosley, and as soon as the doo traps through open door to its box, the guy goes over and takes the doo from its box and swipes against the pad, hows that, SIMPLES,

[MIK]

Im going to use ets first time this year. I dont know why, i was quite happy with T3.

 

If ye all can try and picture this without photo as i havent made box yet.

 

I normally had a drop trap on landing board, but i intend to make a box to cover drop so i can include pad. Pad will be underneath landing board in close proximity to drop, an external box will be made to completely cover width of pad with bob wires external to pad. Box will also have a flip lid that can close.

 

Now this is my pickle, i would like to make this box portable, and by that i mean move to YB loft later on in the year. It can and will be screwed to whatever loft its in.

 

would be nice to hear thoughts on this.

 

atb

Mick

[billt]

Ave been to some pigeon huts where guys fly open doors, what the have is, the pad in the hut obviosley, and as soon as the doo traps through open door to its box, the guy goes over and takes the doo from its box and swipes against the pad, hows that, SIMPLES,

 

Surely that defeats the system, they just as well use a clock

[walterboswell59]

the bird must be trapped shu rule came about because pad inside loft can mean on roof or on boxed in landing boards where birdjust has to land and is timed outside loft

[cemetary]

Surely that defeats the system, they just as well use a clock

 

 

One pad for each section,

[billt]

Im going to use ets first time this year. I dont know why, i was quite happy with T3.

 

If ye all can try and picture this without photo as i havent made box yet.

 

I normally had a drop trap on landing board, but i intend to make a box to cover drop so i can include pad. Pad will be underneath landing board in close proximity to drop, an external box will be made to completely cover width of pad with bob wires external to pad. Box will also have a flip lid that can close.

 

Now this is my pickle, i would like to make this box portable, and by that i mean move to YB loft later on in the year. It can and will be screwed to whatever loft its in.

 

would be nice to hear thoughts on this.

 

atb

Mick

 

Sounds perfect