lanarkshire lad Posted November 12, 2012 Report Posted November 12, 2012 Ive not de wormed my pigeons for the past six years. This year theres been a few hold overs where the pigeons have been fed on top of sheite in the baskets as is the norm i suppose so i am thinking of treating them for worms although they look good and the droppings are also good what do you guys think is it a good idea to de worm them or am i wasting my money ? and how often do yous guys worm them ? ive already bought the wormer Belgica Deweerds belgawormac made for pigeons,years ago it was routine to worm them every year but i dont hear much about it these days.
frank-123 Posted November 12, 2012 Report Posted November 12, 2012 Can you not get a test done Jim just to put your mind at ease
andy Burgess Posted November 12, 2012 Report Posted November 12, 2012 ive not done it for a few years either ? done it twice one year because i was advised to . i dont know wether thats wise or not ,but it doesnt seem to affect there performance
alex young Posted November 12, 2012 Report Posted November 12, 2012 Used Ivermectin for years but now use Moxidectin,easy to use and safe even during the moult.
stan the man Posted November 12, 2012 Report Posted November 12, 2012 Ive not de wormed my pigeons for the past six years. This year theres been a few hold overs where the pigeons have been fed on top of sheite in the baskets as is the norm i suppose so i am thinking of treating them for worms although they look good and the droppings are also good what do you guys think is it a good idea to de worm them or am i wasting my money ? and how often do yous guys worm them ? ive already bought the wormer Belgica Deweerds belgawormac made for pigeons,years ago it was routine to worm them every year but i dont hear much about it these days. hi m8. i had very bad doss of worms at the end of the young bird season, and i went too the vet, and he gave me. PANACUR. for cats and dogs, and ill tell you within 2 to 3 days, it was gone. mind you i did treat for 7 days, atb stan ps, liquid form.
lanarkshire lad Posted November 12, 2012 Author Report Posted November 12, 2012 Can you not get a test done Jim just to put your mind at easeIts more money again frank so i will just treat them blind.
lanarkshire lad Posted November 12, 2012 Author Report Posted November 12, 2012 hi m8. i had very bad doss of worms at the end of the young bird season, and i went too the vet, and he gave me. PANACUR. for cats and dogs, and ill tell you within 2 to 3 days, it was gone. mind you i did treat for 7 days, atb stan ps, liquid form.Bought 4 ybs from a TOP GUY on the continent a few years ago and i wisnae happy with them so i wormed them with panacur and 48 hours later i could see small roundworms in there droppings so yes panacur is a good wormer.
just ask me Posted November 12, 2012 Report Posted November 12, 2012 moxidectin the best wormer on the market id get them tested though also you should re do them 14 days after
Guest Owen Posted November 12, 2012 Report Posted November 12, 2012 I like to use either Moxidectine or Cydectine. I think it is worth being careful with ay wormer while the birds are in the moult even if we are told that they are safe. I do know that Panacur is very dangerous to birds moulting.I little tip for you. I have a microscope so I only treat for worms when the birds have actually got worms but I have found that treatment for hair worms requires at least two and sometimes three treatments. The danger with relying on Vets is the fact that they asssume that the one treatment is good enough when I know for certain that it often is not. The dangerous side of this is the fact that if you allow the worms to be dosed but not killed they can build up a resistance to the wormer which will cause you big problems in the future. As far as I am concerned we should not ask pigeons to race if they have even a small dose of worms or canker. Cocci is not so bad in small doses but worms annd canker in any form are unacceptable.
Roland Posted November 12, 2012 Report Posted November 12, 2012 Isabel, make a cake. Get it from boots. A good fancier told us at a moot that if treated, then given Idsabel after, you will see the worms all over the floor, hanging of perches etc. next day or two. I certainly think it's great and very effective. Is a laxative to settle staumachs etc. if I rtecall. Hacve some still in other room. Soon be time before pairing up I guess.
Delboy Posted November 12, 2012 Report Posted November 12, 2012 Equivlan has ivermectin in it.Moxidectin is best for me but only treat if needed.
alex young Posted November 12, 2012 Report Posted November 12, 2012 What about eqevalan (spelling)Have used it George but not easy to mix being a paste,I used it as directed by the vet 1" of paste to 2pints of water.atb.
lanarkshire lad Posted November 12, 2012 Author Report Posted November 12, 2012 Equivlan has ivermectin in it.Moxidectin is best for me but only treat if needed.Derek do you get the Droppings tested ? and by who?
Guest Owen Posted November 13, 2012 Report Posted November 13, 2012 Why would anyone want to use a horse wormer? Moxidectin or Cydectin are right for the job. By the way if you have found something on Boots which will worm your pigeons in the way you said. It tells me that you don't have the droppings tested very often and the worms you are seeing are round worms which are fairly easy to see. Hair worm are far more dangerous and you will not see them. And they take a lot of killing. Are you sure that you have killed all the worms? Do yourself a faviour and get the droppings tested because I suspect that you have still got hair worm and if you have you will spoil your pigeon's chances to win races plus the fact that your youngsters will be infested with them.
alex young Posted November 13, 2012 Report Posted November 13, 2012 Why would anyone want to use a horse wormer? Moxidectin or Cydectin are right for the job. By the way if you have found something on Boots which will worm your pigeons in the way you said. It tells me that you don't have the droppings tested very often and the worms you are seeing are round worms which are fairly easy to see. Hair worm are far more dangerous and you will not see them. And they take a lot of killing. Are you sure that you have killed all the worms? Do yourself a faviour and get the droppings tested because I suspect that you have still got hair worm and if you have you will spoil your pigeon's chances to win races plus the fact that your youngsters will be infested with them.Owen the reason why anyone would want to use a horse wormer is because it has been dispensed "off licence" by a vet.Moxidectin is also my choice of wormer for previously stated reasons.atb.
Rooster J. Cogburn Posted November 13, 2012 Report Posted November 13, 2012 Why would anyone want to use a horse wormer? Moxidectin or Cydectin are right for the job. By the way if you have found something on Boots which will worm your pigeons in the way you said. It tells me that you don't have the droppings tested very often and the worms you are seeing are round worms which are fairly easy to see. Hair worm are far more dangerous and you will not see them. And they take a lot of killing. Are you sure that you have killed all the worms? Do yourself a faviour and get the droppings tested because I suspect that you have still got hair worm and if you have you will spoil your pigeon's chances to win races plus the fact that your youngsters will be infested with them. My dad noticed the local feed stockist at the time went through a fairly purple spell one season and had a chat to him about it.The thing that came out the conversation was the use of the horse wormer. May just be in the imagination but found when the usage is timed correctly its a useful tool.
mushroom Posted November 14, 2012 Report Posted November 14, 2012 I have tried moxidectin and found it was not as thorough as Eqvalan horse wormer which I have used for the best part of twenty years, the down side of Eqvalan for me is that it will damage the flights (frets) if given when moulting, so timing is important.JMO!! Each to their own.
Guest dibble Posted November 14, 2012 Report Posted November 14, 2012 quest horse wormer is moxidectin
William Reid Posted November 16, 2012 Report Posted November 16, 2012 Ive not de wormed my pigeons for the past six years. This year theres been a few hold overs where the pigeons have been fed on top of sheite in the baskets as is the norm i suppose so i am thinking of treating them for worms although they look good and the droppings are also good what do you guys think is it a good idea to de worm them or am i wasting my money ? and how often do yous guys worm them ? ive already bought the wormer Belgica Deweerds belgawormac made for pigeons,years ago it was routine to worm them every year but i dont hear much about it these days.Hi jim how did u get on with ur de worming .
lanarkshire lad Posted November 16, 2012 Author Report Posted November 16, 2012 Hi jim how did u get on with ur de worming . Ive no used it yet Billy i am still confused as ive been told that the Belgawormac is not too good ??. I suppose i should get the droppings checked first but its another £23 for that.
OLDYELLOW Posted November 16, 2012 Report Posted November 16, 2012 I only treat when worms are detected however I do one drop all my birds prior to pairing mainly to keep them free from tics and external parasites this also worms them . My dad noticed the local feed stockist at the time went through a fairly purple spell one season and had a chat to him about it.The thing that came out the conversation was the use of the horse wormer. May just be in the imagination but found when the usage is timed correctly its a useful tool. Treating to get false form has been done for years however the pay back isn't worth it .
Guest Owen Posted November 16, 2012 Report Posted November 16, 2012 When the season is over I leave treatments alone until I want to prepare the old birds for breeding. I then test the droppings and the swabs and treat for what I have found.This morning I decided to get some practise with a new miroscope so collected up droppings and tested them. Cocci everywhere. Big nasty devils and I think I saw one bare his teeth at me. So it will be Baycox next week. If I had found a small amount of cocci I would'nt have bothered because a small amount helps to develop the bird's immune system but this is beyond a joke. I thought I might find some worm eggs but there were none to be seen. I will test the this year's youngsters tomorrow to see what is happening there.
Rooster J. Cogburn Posted November 17, 2012 Report Posted November 17, 2012 I only treat when worms are detected however I do one drop all my birds prior to pairing mainly to keep them free from tics and external parasites this also worms them . Treating to get false form has been done for years however the pay back isn't worth it . They are all at it unfortunately oldyellow
soupie Posted November 17, 2012 Report Posted November 17, 2012 When the season is over I leave treatments alone until I want to prepare the old birds for breeding. I then test the droppings and the swabs and treat for what I have found.This morning I decided to get some practise with a new miroscope so collected up droppings and tested them. Cocci everywhere. Big nasty devils and I think I saw one bare his teeth at me. So it will be Baycox next week. If I had found a small amount of cocci I would'nt have bothered because a small amount helps to develop the bird's immune system but this is beyond a joke. I thought I might find some worm eggs but there were none to be seen. I will test the this year's youngsters tomorrow to see what is happening there. Hi Owen , can you recommend a decent microscope ?? Seems handy when you can do this yourself. Do you test for worms, canker and cocci yourself?? cheers soupie
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