sapper756 Posted July 17, 2012 Report Posted July 17, 2012 Last Friday I started training my young bird team of 41, within this team I had 1 mealy, 1 mealy pied and 1 red youngster. After 4 tosses I now have a team of 36,(2 of which are injured), so 5 down, of these 5, on the first toss I lost the mealy, on the second I lost the mealy pied, and yesterday I dropped the redhttp://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/emoticon-0138-thinking.gif so my team is now free of these colours, is this coincidence or as I have read before, BOP tend to focus attacks on mealies and reds within a team of birds? Views are welcome, thank you.
geordie1234 Posted July 17, 2012 Report Posted July 17, 2012 well when I look at a batch in the sky Brian I always pick out the lighter coloured pigeons. I would imagine it is just as easy for percy to do the same. I am one down out of 40 now the one missing is a red pied
andy Burgess Posted July 17, 2012 Report Posted July 17, 2012 its what stands out ,easy target wise ,over and above the colouring .if we sent our whites training with a blue chequer amongst them ,you can be sure which one it will pick out.
Guest stb- Posted July 17, 2012 Report Posted July 17, 2012 now thats a good subject . over the years i have never been able to keep mealies or reds sparr always took them or as your did they just never came home or came back hawked . last year i had a good few red pigeons as young birds from the irish walkingshaw birds , they flow 5 and 6 races last year and flown to newark and the comeback races , all still there but i have lost my chq pieds this year and had a lot of them turn up hawked another coincidence is the first 3 birds in the INFCKINGS CUP VANNES THIS YEAR ON A VERY VERY HARD RACE ARE ALL REDS
Guest WINGS 04 Posted July 17, 2012 Report Posted July 17, 2012 There is a red siting on the house next to my loft
THE FIFER Posted July 17, 2012 Report Posted July 17, 2012 I have 4white and 2white grizzled in my young bird team and they are still there, I have lost 2reds, and cheq,
greenlands Posted July 17, 2012 Report Posted July 17, 2012 My winner at the weekend was a mealy but the only one I lost was a red ?
Guest paulrstokes Posted July 17, 2012 Report Posted July 17, 2012 Was discussing this earlier today. i have had some shocking training and to date have lost the following. 3 mealies1 mealy pied1 yellow1 chocolate2 reds Grizzles and whites seemed to have faired OK, must be something about the reddich colour that makes them more appealing I have since cut an eye shape out of a potato, and stamped all birds on the underside of the wing, and a couple of grizzles on the top of the wing, not sure if it works but have no lesses since doing this. There was also a recent article on Lee Fribbins and he likes to keep blues and blues only for the reasons discussed
Michael J Burden Posted July 17, 2012 Report Posted July 17, 2012 Alwyn Hill has a very good mealy cock who has flown very fast probably chased by a BOP, scored x3 times at the longest race NFC.I have a few colours in my YB team and know I will loose most of them because their breeding is suspect. I have lots of grizzles red and blue grizzles. Bronze which are Indigo and a few barless mealies and now two Opals. I think if a pigeon is haked it is just that bad news but colours dont make a difference. atb MJB
ALF Posted July 17, 2012 Report Posted July 17, 2012 i have 3 reds and 1 gay red pied in my yb team and 20 odd pieds no mealies after 4 tosses all the reds and the red pied are still there i had 55 at the 1st toss and after 4 i have 52 dont ask me what the colours are that are missing because i have'nt a clue
Delboy Posted July 17, 2012 Report Posted July 17, 2012 Colour means fk all if they can shift their azz, lol.
bluecock Posted July 17, 2012 Report Posted July 17, 2012 well am sending a red pied and a mealy to the national,so a better keep ma fingers crossed...lol
Guest stb- Posted July 17, 2012 Report Posted July 17, 2012 Colour means fk all if they can shift their azz, lol.i always had mealies and the odd red but they were gauranteed the target with the sparr every time , now i have quite a few reds and dontseem as bad , just wonder if the odd ones out in a batch on the loft roof become a target or a mealy in a batch of blues in the sky easy to spot
Pigeon Thos Posted July 17, 2012 Report Posted July 17, 2012 Surely it's to do with how thick/intelligent the bird is. I have several pigeons from the same red cock but different hens all of which are reds or red pieds with the occasional ch pied. It's amazing the difference in their behaviour in feeding, trapping, adjusting to changes, stamina, flying speed and vitality. If all these differences can be seen in these half siblings what difference does colour make. Incidently YB training is going great with only non reds/red pieds falling to wires so I suppose these injured ones must be at the back of the group and too slow to react to the cables. So far Percy does not feature but there again I do not train or fly my young birds before 19.30hrs - yes when yours go to bed mine go out to an empty sky.
JohnQuinn Posted July 17, 2012 Report Posted July 17, 2012 Well i've Never had any luck with Mealy or Red birds or for that matter Grizzles. The longest lasting birds have, almost without exception, been Blue Chequers or Darkies. Would have to go Back 26 years to find a good Pied bird, 1986 in fact, and even farther back for a Grizzle doo, 1975. In all my years i can't ever remember having a good Red pigeon.
Delboy Posted July 17, 2012 Report Posted July 17, 2012 Colour means fk all imo,eg.SNFC Messac 1st Open 2011, RED CH HEN.
JohnQuinn Posted July 17, 2012 Report Posted July 17, 2012 Canny mind when it was Derek, but there was an article in the BHW featuring all the top winners in the UNC of that particular year, every pigeon in the pics was a Blue, Blue Ch and dark. No so much as a white flight in them. I got a Beauty of a Red in a swap with a good friend of mine this year, only Red in my team. It came in the other day skinned right along the breast and the flesh was Black as coal, its ME i'm jinxed way reds
Delboy Posted July 17, 2012 Report Posted July 17, 2012 Canny mind when it was Derek, but there was an article in the BHW featuring all the top winners in the UNC of that particular year, every pigeon in the pics was a Blue, Blue Ch and dark. No so much as a white flight in them. I got a Beauty of a Red in a swap with a good friend of mine this year, only Red in my team. It came in the other day skinned right along the breast and the flesh was Black as coal, its ME i'm jinxed way reds It will be watching the wires from now on John.Think it might change your opinion on reds,in about 2014 atb
hotrod Posted July 18, 2012 Report Posted July 18, 2012 colour means nowt to percy , i trained 26 a few weeks ago ,colour breakdown 2 reds 2 mealy,s 4 cheq pieds (quite a bit of white) 1 white griz(although it will moult into a dark griz) 1 dark griz 2 blue pies 3 blue bars 1 black pied (not much white)the rest half blue cheqs and dark cheqs. 2 percies had a go the one the got hit (then got away) was a dark cheq also a blue got some tail feathers taken out .so as ive said colour means nowt its yer luck ,althought if i had 30 y/bs and had only one red/mealy then yes this would stand out or for that matter a pied .
big blue bar Posted July 18, 2012 Report Posted July 18, 2012 you have to remember the falcons are training their youngsters so there will be as much as 5 or 6 in the sky at one time . i watched with my own eyes one night last week . if our birds are on line of flight with these bops you will have birds missing or hurt . I ve lost 5 to date . couple of cheq pieds and three blues.. color means nothing i think it depends how high the birds are when the attack is happening if your birds can t get to ground quick enough its a gonner
Rooster J. Cogburn Posted July 18, 2012 Report Posted July 18, 2012 Can't seem to keep a hold of any form of reds or mealies since re starting in 2009. The two old red cocks I have at the moment are both injured. Don't think there is too much in it though and probably coincidence. One of the best birds in the SNFC's recent history was a mealy,Dennis Dall's Gold award winner which scored 7 times in the SNFC
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