hotrod Posted January 26, 2010 Report Posted January 26, 2010 hotrod it looks like the short races is going to take over there is no long distance doos left due to the sprint but you mention the birdage what has that got to do with snfc its a national open for the members that want to fly the distance feds managed to race inland all the time before the foot and mouth bird flue that is when the constution ended because they were getting the same prase as a bird flying the french races realy there is no change just put the NATIONAL BACK TO STATUS QUO SURLY COMBINES can take over inland races i agree walter do away with inland nationals ,but as i mentioned in an earlier post if members send to these inland races with good birdages it will be hard to oppose them ,but go ahead and propose to do away with them you will get support but i think the others will out vote you, again jmo.
dwh Posted January 26, 2010 Report Posted January 26, 2010 hotrod it looks like the short races is going to take over there is no long distance doos left due to the sprint but you mention the birdage what has that got to do with snfc its a national open for the members that want to fly the distance feds managed to race inland all the time before the foot and mouth bird flue that is when the constution ended because they were getting the same prase as a bird flying the french races realy there is no change just put the NATIONAL BACK TO STATUS QUO SURLY COMBINES can take over inland races as an outsider looking in i wouldlike to ask if the snfc is like the nfc if so then it should remain a specialist club for the distance channel birds if fanciers want inland races then why can't a race be created within a longer inland race offered by the other organisations JMO
hotrod Posted January 26, 2010 Report Posted January 26, 2010 the gold cup could temp a few i have a gold medal( 2 oz) thats mine for ever mate thats fine for me .no disrespect to the gold cup intended
walterbmasson Posted January 26, 2010 Report Posted January 26, 2010 soapy where do you fly from which area ive never seen the tail wagging the dog but i doo know the national was for 500 to600+miles but theres no doubt your the selfish one you want a national to suit[ you] your heed must be pickled
Guest bigda Posted January 26, 2010 Report Posted January 26, 2010 i have a gold medal( 2 oz) thats mine for ever mate thats fine for me .no disrespect to the gold cup intended pop it in to the bag i sent, money for old gold
hotrod Posted January 26, 2010 Report Posted January 26, 2010 pop it in to the bag i sent, money for old gold you never know if times get hard danny ha ha ( worth well over £1000 )going with the up to date gold rates .
JADE Posted January 26, 2010 Report Posted January 26, 2010 FUNNY NO REPLY WONDER WHY ;D ;D ;D ;D cos i`ve been out. and i`m waiting for walter to answer my question first
walterbmasson Posted January 26, 2010 Report Posted January 26, 2010 DWH YES its a specialist events what would it be with out long events split the country in half make 2 sec north and south forth seperates ;D ;D ;D ;D
Guest bigda Posted January 26, 2010 Report Posted January 26, 2010 you never know if times get hard danny ha ha ( worth well over £1000 )going with the up to date gold rates . your to clever, thought i could have had it for a £10 ;D
Guest Posted January 26, 2010 Report Posted January 26, 2010 walter can you explain why there were around 30 birds from Dundee & Angus in the first 100 open from Eastbourne last year yet only one in the north section on the day flying only about 30 miles further. i think you are disrespectful to guys who score regularly at inland nationals. in scotland a national is a national regardless of the distance. how many times have you been in the first 100 open in the last ten years its not 30 miles further as the birds fly its over 50 miles to aberdeen then another 30 plus to walters area
hotrod Posted January 26, 2010 Report Posted January 26, 2010 your to clever, thought i could have had it for a £10 ;D good try ;D
alec guinness Posted January 26, 2010 Report Posted January 26, 2010 cant agree with dropping the inland nationals,the snfc programme has races for all fanciers in scotland, fanciers just a year or two in the sport can compete at national level through the inland and yb nats and hopefully will go on and have a go at the french/belgian races,the club i previously flew in had the same 4 or 5 diehards at the nationals then in 1997 from the very first inland nat,frome i think there were 16 fanciers competing,the programme is taylormade for scottish fanciers lets not tinker with it. ;) :) :)
Guest bigda Posted January 26, 2010 Report Posted January 26, 2010 i think you are right there walter there is enough club racing to take care of hours on the wing, the national should be able to get sponcers for the long haul and if thats why you joint well its only fair as to thats what you get long distance races and nothing else
walterbmasson Posted January 26, 2010 Report Posted January 26, 2010 cant agree with dropping the inland nationals,the snfc programme has races for all fanciers in scotland, fanciers just a year or two in the sport can compete at national level through the inland and yb nats and hopefully will go on and have a go at the french/belgian races,the club i previously flew in had the same 4 or 5 diehards at the nationals then in 1997 from the very first inland nat,frome i think there were 16 fanciers competing,the programme is taylormade for scottish fanciers lets not tinker with it. ;) :) :) alex could you explain why eastborne as a national when you have a ypres rember you have still to keep the name statiture SNFC what does it mean if you want to race inland races make it the sma national for novices
naedoos Posted January 26, 2010 Report Posted January 26, 2010 i think you are right there walter there is enough club racing to take care of hours on the wing, the national should be able to get sponcers for the long haul and if thats why you joint well its only fair as to thats what you get long distance races and nothing else I'm sure members join to get National racing at whatever distance suits them! The SNFC cater for all distances at the moment, so pick which ones you prefer and don't go to the ones you can't manage, no one forces anyone to do anything, enjoy the racing and stop trying to make mountains out o molehills :-/
alec guinness Posted January 26, 2010 Report Posted January 26, 2010 alex could you explain why eastborne as a national when you have a ypres rember you have still to keep the name statiture SNFC what does it mean if you want to race inland races make it the sma national for novices i think walter we live in the past as scottish national fanciers,gone are the days when we had 5 or 6000 birds at the french races,the national must appeal to every fancier in scotland and that means every fancier has a choice whether it is 300,400 500 or 600 mile racing,yes walter we were all novices at one time.the birds i sent to the distance races in 2009 competed mostly from one of the two inland nationals last year,the alternative being a federation 270-300 mile race(not much point) so i dont see a problem with inland nationals. :) :)
JADE Posted January 26, 2010 Report Posted January 26, 2010 your speaking about a different ball game up here first i think you can add another 40 miles onto your 30miles i raced over the years a 30 bird team one of the smallest loft flyers and i can tell you i am more than pleased with the positions in first 50 in snfc the best pos in last 10 years 2002 29th open cllermont 601 miles but i dont need to publish what ive won i let my birds do that what is your best national result in last 10 years so you want to change the rules. thought we were measured from A to B. by the way i have been in 1st 100 open from Leicester, Newbury, Eastbourne, Falaise, Alencon, Tours, Clermont, Cheltenham, Hastings, Chenoise and Vire in last ten years. how about you?
JADE Posted January 26, 2010 Report Posted January 26, 2010 well i doubt if we`ll ever find out cos i`m no moving now. if you cant post a sensible answer better no sayin anything. p.s. if your at airdrie on saturday propose nantes for the gold cup. i`ll vote for it
Rebus Posted January 26, 2010 Report Posted January 26, 2010 i think walter we live in the past as scottish national fanciers,gone are the days when we had 5 or 6000 birds at the french races,the national must appeal to every fancier in scotland and that means every fancier has a choice whether it is 300,400 500 or 600 mile racing,yes walter we were all novices at one time.the birds i sent to the distance races in 2009 competed mostly from one of the two inland nationals last year,the alternative being a federation 270-300 mile race(not much point) so i dont see a problem with inland nationals. :) :) Like it has already been stated the SNFC was founded on long distance racing and high standards ,these are now being eroded with the introduction of inland racing and prizes being brought down from 1 in 15 to 1 in 10 what next 1in 5 ? we are heading for the Micky Mouse stuff, get back to 500 & 600 mile racing.
Guest bigda Posted January 26, 2010 Report Posted January 26, 2010 who would be against Nantes, for the gold cup, would it be a time of year thing, as to when it was raced or just to far for some
maverick Posted January 26, 2010 Report Posted January 26, 2010 who would be against Nantes, for the gold cup, would it be a time of year thing, as to when it was raced or just to far for some join the S.N.F.C THEN YOU CAN GO TO THE A.G.M AND HAVE YOUR SAY WERE IT MATTERS AND NOT ON HERE STIRRING THINGS UP
Guest bigda Posted January 26, 2010 Report Posted January 26, 2010 join the S.N.F.C THEN YOU CAN GO TO THE A.G.M AND HAVE YOUR SAY WERE IT MATTERS AND NOT ON HERE STIRRING THINGS UP i take it you don't like it to far, joining the national has nothing to do with my opinion on it as like any thread on the web has a comment box on any subject so whats yer problem
ALF Posted January 26, 2010 Report Posted January 26, 2010 What about making the Gold cup race the duplication race for the feds to get there channel race?? ( And before everyone says some feds might want to go to Ypres some to Falaise well what about scrapping dupliction for them and get 1 race from across the channel that would/should attract a good entry :) :-/ :-/ :)
maverick Posted January 26, 2010 Report Posted January 26, 2010 i take it you don't like it to far, joining the national has nothing to do with my opinion on it as like any thread on the web has a comment box on any subject so whats yer problem I dont have a problem but why get involved in a matter that has nothing to do with you join the national and have your say were it matters at the A.G.M. If you put as much time and effort into something constructive i am sure you would be a great benifit to that cause
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