philg50 Posted December 3, 2021 Report Posted December 3, 2021 IMO, trying to pull the blinkers over each and every Federation members eyes by saying no venue could be found for AGM leaves me having considerable doubt about a postal vote .I also have at this time reservations on part of the letter received this week stating that if winning Mr Birnie and his committee would take care of any other agenda ,to much going on to leave as is .I think the amount of confusing issues being raised by present top table warrant no less than a proper AGM .
philg50 Posted December 3, 2021 Report Posted December 3, 2021 IMO, trying to pull the blinkers over each and every Federation members eyes by saying no venue could be found for AGM leaves me having considerable doubt about a postal vote .I also have at this time reservations on part of the letter received this week stating that if winning Mr Birnie and his committee would take care of any other agenda ,to much going on to leave as is .I think the amount of confusing issues being raised by present top table warrant no less than a proper AGM .I have just finished reading the 2021 balance sheet for the SHU and i noticed it stated that the North of Scotland Fed had 110 members that would not reflect the correct numbers with the lads breaking away to race with Moray Fed would it ???.The other thing i would ask when are we going to get our balance sheet as this would have to come out before agm would it not ?. I have just posted back my vote choosing option B as i believe any one with a point of view or strong opinion should have the right to be heard in a democratic way.
philg50 Posted December 3, 2021 Report Posted December 3, 2021 IMO, trying to pull the blinkers over each and every Federation members eyes by saying no venue could be found for AGM leaves me having considerable doubt about a postal vote .I also have at this time reservations on part of the letter received this week stating that if winning Mr Birnie and his committee would take care of any other agenda ,to much going on to leave as is .I think the amount of confusing issues being raised by present top table warrant no less than a proper AGM .I have just finished reading the 2021 balance sheet for the SHU and i noticed it stated that the North of Scotland Fed had 110 members that would not reflect the correct numbers with the lads breaking away to race with Moray Fed would it ???.The other thing i would ask when are we going to get our balance sheet as this would have to come out before agm would it not ?. I have just posted back my vote choosing option B as i believe any one with a point of view or strong opinion should have the right to be heard in a democratic way.
grizzle09 Posted December 3, 2021 Report Posted December 3, 2021 19 minutes ago, philg50 said: IMO, trying to pull the blinkers over each and every Federation members eyes by saying no venue could be found for AGM leaves me having considerable doubt about a postal vote .I also have at this time reservations on part of the letter received this week stating that if winning Mr Birnie and his committee would take care of any other agenda ,to much going on to leave as is .I think the amount of confusing issues being raised by present top table warrant no less than a proper AGM .I have just finished reading the 2021 balance sheet for the SHU and i noticed it stated that the North of Scotland Fed had 110 members that would not reflect the correct numbers with the lads breaking away to race with Moray Fed would it ???.The other thing i would ask when are we going to get our balance sheet as this would have to come out before agm would it not ?. I have just posted back my vote choosing option B as i believe any one with a point of view or strong opinion should have the right to be heard in a democratic way. Your right phill, I believe the fed has held a steady number of members around the 110 mark for the last 20 year or so, Regarding the mffc, 17/23 fanciers decided to renew their membership with the fed when the club started last year which makes only 6 members that didn't Along with declining memberships of clubs over the last few years I can't see how 110 is still correct, It would be wise for the fed to make public the real number of current payed up members there is before any meeting/postal vote so to figure out what majority a proposal/rule needs to pass/change
robbiedoo. Posted December 3, 2021 Report Posted December 3, 2021 4 hours ago, philg50 said: IMO, trying to pull the blinkers over each and every Federation members eyes by saying no venue could be found for AGM leaves me having considerable doubt about a postal vote .I also have at this time reservations on part of the letter received this week stating that if winning Mr Birnie and his committee would take care of any other agenda ,to much going on to leave as is .I think the amount of confusing issues being raised by present top table warrant no less than a proper AGM .I have just finished reading the 2021 balance sheet for the SHU and i noticed it stated that the North of Scotland Fed had 110 members that would not reflect the correct numbers with the lads breaking away to race with Moray Fed would it ???.The other thing i would ask when are we going to get our balance sheet as this would have to come out before agm would it not ?. I have just posted back my vote choosing option B as i believe any one with a point of view or strong opinion should have the right to be heard in a democratic way. If you count the number of members per club on the paper copy we get of the race programme its says there is 92 members in our fed. I am not sure is this is the number they came up with before or after some members left to fly with the MFFC.
grdkeith Posted December 3, 2021 Report Posted December 3, 2021 32 minutes ago, robbiedoo. said: If you count the number of members per club on the paper copy we get of the race programme its says there is 92 members in our fed. I am not sure is this is the number they came up with before or after some members left to fly with the MFFC. Robbie I sent a letter asking for confirmation of membership numbers which arrived Wednesday by registered mail so reply should not be too long and I will share when it arrives
grdkeith Posted December 3, 2021 Report Posted December 3, 2021 23 hours ago, gordon wilson said: Sad to all this carry on should never been required if it had been handled properly from the top table Gordon We should all be meeting at banff on Sunday morning to discuss ,debate and vote on all proposals as normal instead of this complete shambles
gordon wilson Posted December 3, 2021 Author Report Posted December 3, 2021 Deveron valley pc took the date so we will all turn up with our usual tin helmets on and put the world to right ha ha
grdkeith Posted December 3, 2021 Report Posted December 3, 2021 2 hours ago, gordon wilson said: Deveron valley pc took the date so we will all turn up with our usual tin helmets on and put the world to right ha ha You and mr Abel will have your ww1 ones in the back of a cupboard
Driver Ron Posted December 4, 2021 Report Posted December 4, 2021 On 12/1/2021 at 8:34 PM, gordon wilson said: Even if there is a change at the top Ron your job is safe you have done a great service for us this last two years thanks Thanks Gordon i really do appreciate that, its your fed I'm just the driver and not trying to interfere but have to take umbrage at some comments here, implying faking illness? seems to be plenty greivances over actual racing matters that there was no need to reference that but it gives you an insight into the type of people instigating this. This been rumbling on since started driving its not about "pigeon politics" its about personalities. Someone said its sad yes it is that while there are enough problems in the hobby/sport these are the type of situations you all have to face .
gordon wilson Posted December 4, 2021 Author Report Posted December 4, 2021 Thanks Ron look forward to seeing you next season
Driver Ron Posted December 4, 2021 Report Posted December 4, 2021 I hope so Gordon, always enjoyed our jousts over that tenner
grdkeith Posted December 10, 2021 Report Posted December 10, 2021 Can anyone confirm when the closing date for the vote is,that's 14days since I recieved my letter and my vote long since posted. ?
Dooheed 5 Posted December 10, 2021 Report Posted December 10, 2021 1 hour ago, grdkeith said: Can anyone confirm when the closing date for the vote is,that's 14days since I recieved my letter and my vote long since posted. ? Sent mine back also but then I was of the understanding these Letters were deemed Void anyway due to they’re untruthful & manipulative content ?
VAGIN Posted December 11, 2021 Report Posted December 11, 2021 14 hours ago, Dooheed 5 said: Sent mine back also but then I was of the understanding these Letters were deemed Void anyway due to they’re untruthful & manipulative content ? IMO Mr Birnie is just trying to play mind games and is trying to stall for time The best thing he can do is to stand down so we can mend this mess which he and his advisors have caused At the moment the federation is stuck and broken we need to move forward for the fothcoming season. So Mr Birnie and Co stop playing these silly mind games ( STAND DOWN)
Pinefield Doo Man Posted December 11, 2021 Report Posted December 11, 2021 I can’t believe this bull sh*t hasn’t been taken down yet. The letter asks a simple question and with covid even if you find a venue then not everyone would want to mix with others from different areas. The question is to gauge how members feel to decide what is best for them. Even with a venue that will take 100 people maybe only 20 might feel safe to turn up so you won’t get a proper representation of the Fed members. So I suggest you put your toys down pull on your big boy breeks and grow up.Instead of all the slanderous comments say something grown up and constructive.
Driver Ron Posted December 11, 2021 Report Posted December 11, 2021 27 minutes ago, Pinefield Doo Man said: I can’t believe this bull sh*t hasn’t been taken down yet. The letter asks a simple question and with covid even if you find a venue then not everyone would want to mix with others from different areas. The question is to gauge how members feel to decide what is best for them. Even with a venue that will take 100 people maybe only 20 might feel safe to turn up so you won’t get a proper representation of the Fed members. So I suggest you put your toys down pull on your big boy breeks and grow up.Instead of all the slanderous comments say something grown up and constructive. well said
robbiedoo. Posted December 12, 2021 Report Posted December 12, 2021 Strange comment considering even the SHU are having their AGM tomorrow.
robbiedoo. Posted December 12, 2021 Report Posted December 12, 2021 Just now, robbiedoo. said: Strange comment considering even the SHU are having their AGM tomorrow and by the sounds of it the majority of Scottish feds have had their AGM. I am hoping this will be my last post on this thread as all this carry on is bringing our fed down imo.
grdkeith Posted December 12, 2021 Report Posted December 12, 2021 On 12/10/2021 at 6:27 PM, grdkeith said: Can anyone confirm when the closing date for the vote is,that's 14days since I recieved my letter and my vote long since posted. ? Surely closing date must have come and gone by now ?
Ryan Hay Posted December 12, 2021 Report Posted December 12, 2021 What a absolute shambles this is turning in to. My biggest worry is there is so much animosity that neither side are going to back down on anything and dosent look like there is room for compromise. The biggest loser is going to be the federation. Come on lads get your heads together for the good of the sport. Supposed to be grown men surely can come up with something that works for everyone, or at least the majority rather than looking out for yourselves
Ryan Hay Posted December 12, 2021 Report Posted December 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, grdkeith said: Surely closing date must have come and gone by now ? Hopefully find out next week George then hopefully get a plan for going forward
grdkeith Posted December 12, 2021 Report Posted December 12, 2021 30 minutes ago, Ryan Hay said: Hopefully find out next week George then hopefully get a plan for going forwardh Hope you are right Ryan but there has so far been a complete lack of clarity about a way forward or when we are going to be given the result imo
Ryan Hay Posted December 12, 2021 Report Posted December 12, 2021 Hopefully after this week we will at least know if there will be a postal vote for a agm or a proper meeting.
grdkeith Posted December 12, 2021 Report Posted December 12, 2021 53 minutes ago, Ryan Hay said: Hopefully after this week we will at least know if there will be a postal vote for a agm or a proper meeting. Ryan if you cast your mind back to your voting slip then you will recall that a proper meeting was never up for a vote imo
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