Walter swanston Posted July 19, 2020 Report Share Posted July 19, 2020 I have lost two pigeons in two days to the ever increasing number of peregrines around here.Thefirst was a red hen which was a srtay from Prague and the other a particularly attractive white grizzle.Both of those birds could easily be picked out in flight because of their flashy colouring which gives further proof to my experience over the years that darker birds have a better chance of surviving those predators. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airdrie2 Posted July 19, 2020 Report Share Posted July 19, 2020 totally agree with you walter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliftonlad Posted July 19, 2020 Report Share Posted July 19, 2020 I have lost two pigeons in two days to the ever increasing number of peregrines around here.Thefirst was a red hen which was a srtay from Prague and the other a particularly attractive white grizzle.Both of those birds could easily be picked out in flight because of their flashy colouring which gives further proof to my experience over the years that darker birds have a better chance of surviving those predators. Wallreri I had a loft of Reds and mealy won out of turn years ago but there all gone now mate think there sitting ducks / pigeons jmo mate . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyleakin Lofts Posted July 19, 2020 Report Share Posted July 19, 2020 I seem to remember that peregrines use some form of infra red sight when hunting, similar to cats. The red colours show up better in this vision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cammy 11 Posted July 19, 2020 Report Share Posted July 19, 2020 I seem to remember that peregrines use some form of infra red sight when hunting, similar to cats. The red colours show up better in this vision. Thank *expletive removed* all my birds are blues Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paddymac Posted July 19, 2020 Report Share Posted July 19, 2020 started last season with 7 red ybs, not one of them got to the training stage. All lost around the loft due to percy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyleakin Lofts Posted July 19, 2020 Report Share Posted July 19, 2020 Thank *expletive removed* all my birds are blues Won't make any difference. Also read they pick out the odd ones. Apparently they go for minority groups. If yours are all blue, then no minority groups or reds, I'm afraid they'll just have to take what they get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayside tornados Posted July 19, 2020 Report Share Posted July 19, 2020 I have a number of whites, grizzle and reds and it's always the blues or dark cheqs that disappear. I think they lock onto the colour that stands out against the rest.. So if you had 20 white birds and 5 dark birds the dark birds are more at risk and vice versa. As same coloured birds appear to move as one and it's harder to single out a target. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yeboah Posted July 19, 2020 Report Share Posted July 19, 2020 Yes peregrines having a field day Walter I had youngster's down road when home gave them bath and let old birds out with them They got scattered few times When called them in The only red I own a yearling cock He's missing 🙈 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin8 Posted July 20, 2020 Report Share Posted July 20, 2020 Lost 7 red's, 2 white grizzles, 1 young red cock was singled out twice before getting caught Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VAGIN Posted July 20, 2020 Report Share Posted July 20, 2020 Ive had the same problem with light coloured birds only keep blues and darkies . If you get the homing world there always big winners on the front page , very few fancy co[oured birds on this page . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delboy Posted July 20, 2020 Report Share Posted July 20, 2020 Two of my oldest racers are reds. They've been over the water many times. One of my best racing hens is a white. I don't think it matters what colour they are, BOP can see a dark ch from miles away just as it can see a bright coloured one. Get rid of the problem or you can say bye bye to the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael J Burden Posted July 20, 2020 Report Share Posted July 20, 2020 My young yellow cock don’t stand a chance of finishing the YB season then. Mjb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastcoaster Posted July 20, 2020 Report Share Posted July 20, 2020 I think it does make difference what colour I had 14 reds at start of season only have 2 left but think it makes sense that if your batch is mostly reds a dark one will stand out .Look at national results how many reds or mealys not a lot but look at results 20 year ago loads were red or mealy but Del is correct if we don't do something soon we are finished ,I trained 10 today single up from East Lothian and my best bird for gold cup got home but her mate didn't! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doomanphil Posted July 20, 2020 Report Share Posted July 20, 2020 Lost 8 training on the Saturday 4 where red pieds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbo54 Posted July 21, 2020 Report Share Posted July 21, 2020 I think it does make difference what colour I had 14 reds at start of season only have 2 left but think it makes sense that if your batch is mostly reds a dark one will stand out .Look at national results how many reds or mealys not a lot but look at results 20 year ago loads were red or mealy but Del is correct if we don't do something soon we are finished ,I trained 10 today single up from East Lothian and my best bird for gold cup got home but her mate didn't!Law of averages Colin, if 5000 birds in a race and Only 250 are reds then 20 to 1 chance the winner will be a blue colored pigeon, even less chance of a grizzle winning, back in the old days there were a lot more reds raced hence more red/mealy national winners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbo54 Posted July 21, 2020 Report Share Posted July 21, 2020 Ive got aloft full reds and mealies, I’ve had 10 training tosses with 35 young birds, been hit once with Percy, they eventually all made it home, one with only one tail feather and one with all it secondaries ripped out of one wing, both were dark Chequers , makes you think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncow Posted July 21, 2020 Report Share Posted July 21, 2020 Tesco or Asda black food colouring try it does the bird's no harmMoult out end of season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotrod Posted July 21, 2020 Report Share Posted July 21, 2020 A number of years ago I had 21 blue bar old birds in race team . Fir whatever reason I’ve more or less got chequers darks blues and light ones , very few blues , an odd grizzle and , I’ve lost dark cheqs light cheqs blues, pieds doesn’t seem to matter what colour they are , my problem is if a bird catches the eye like burning up the sky coming into form keen on nest whatever that’s when I can say bye bye . Maybe the hawks can see what I’m seeing a bird that stands out . Regardless of colours . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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