West Region Combine

[ally mac]

I think it would great to be all coming up the road together but feel it will be too much to expect everybody to mark through Airdrie way. Would think it would be better to mark in our own clubs, feds, and then head down the road together.

[geordie1234]

Some of the reasons I've heard for not doing it would make te chuck it honestly

[Joe tyre]

In a way the way our sport is going wae predators etc bad racing

Wotever the reasons are for it it's probs a bit late for any change as I think wotever changes is made it's a bit late and won't change our losses and bad racing in the future but that's just my opinion but wotever the magority decide then see wot happens but our sport is in decline that's 100% for sure and can't see any change in that in the future the losses will get worse and wee will be breeding more and more to cover our losses and losing more to predators and all the weather conditions that can't be explained for the losses

[tommy bhoys]

Defo Geo.. exciting times.. hopefully gets support

 

 

 

What’s your reasoning for being against it Tommy ?

lanarkshire does not need this why not use glasgow feds transport and away you jonsey on tour

[dunc50]

In 2020 we will be looking at establishing a Brand New Racing Club.

 

The West Region Combine ( W.R.C)

 

Before going into details of our plans,

This clubs Foundation will live or die by firstly the vote of the LRPF members at their 2020 AGM, all the below will be proposed , If members vote To convoy as the WRC for these races ,,this is what we would be looking at creating........

 

( again I stress this is a guide line ,,,I.e dates and race points are not set in stone, also no one will lose their identity as Federations)

 

THE W.R.C

 

Open to all lofts Currently situated in the boundaries of West Region of either SNFC or SNRPC

Will consist of

3/4 inland old bird races

1 Young bird race

 

(These boundaries have been in place for decades, yes their will be some that want XYZ inc, but to get this off the ground we must build on what is already their)

 

Transportation will be that of LRPF, unless over 8000 Birds where alternative Geraldy transport will be added.

The W.R.C will be Controlled by the LRPF Race Control team.

 

( In essence it will run exactly like the Lanarkshire Social Circle has done successfully for Decades )

 

Central Marking will take place in EUROFAB Factory for the WRC races,

Situated in Newhouse industrial estate, directly off the M8 Motorway

Which provides a Dry , Clean environment and cover for over 500 plus fanciers their birds, Toilet facilities and Also will adequate car parking for Fanciers. With Transporter being loaded undercover infront of the members,,as the birds are marked and watered.

Also gives us flexibility in terms of basketing times.

 

( the Use of this factory will be donated by the Macaloney Family)

 

The WRC will race under SHU rules

( those who are not SHU members can simply, apply)

 

If all Federations within the Region Get on board

The WRC will consist of 3 sections

Lanarkshire ( any south Lanarkshire members who wish to join the WRC will be inc in this section)

Glasgow

Ayrshire

 

TheFederation boundary’s are already in place for each of the WRC Sections,,,any West Region member that is not in any of these Federations will be placed in the Section nearest his or her location for the Combine result.

 

( these Feds will be obviously urged to vote also to convoy with the WRC insuring we are all together)

 

The WRC Open result will consist of the fastest 50 birds from each Section

Thus giving a fair display across the Combine.

 

we are looking at Each Section having the same prize money for the 1,2,3 places

1st £250

2nd £150

3rd £100

 

A £5 NOM will be in place across the WRC Open result

No limit on the amount of birds that can be NOMINATED.

( 75% will go to the winners of the First NOM bird )

( 25% will be retained by the Club to help with running costs)

 

A £10 Loft pool will also be available for those wishing to enter.

Again paid out in a 75% -25%

 

(We would encourage that the competing Federations also have their own Open race on these days, as they have done in the past, thus providing alternative pools for their members, again the above is guide lines of what we could have. )

 

Presentation Night ( free )

Seasons 4/5 race Winners

- 4/5 major Trophies that will be the future Historical Refs for the club

12 Section winners - Medals

 

WRC ACE Birds Awards

worked on points system, a Top 10 will issued

( each Section 50 points for 1st, 1 point for 50th etc)

Most points wins, and so on, listed 1-10

 

Depending on running costs the ACE bird will the most prestigious prize in the WRC receiving in the regions of £1000.

Insuring the Multi Performance birds get true accolades.

 

Extra Funding.

An Annual sale will be held , containing Birds from the best lofts in Europe to boost funds.

Sponsorship will also be raised from various Feed companies and local businesses and Businessmen.

 

Facebook Live,,

Gone are the days of £1.50 to call a lib line, The WRC Facebook page will run live on Race Days , with members only pass ,allowing fanciers the option to record their first birds times as the race unfolds.

 

The Facebook Page will also deliver winning Results, reports,,updates,,lost birds etc.

 

Costs -£0,,, Only effort and time needed.

 

So What are We creating?

 

A footprint for the future of inland racing into the west of Scotland,with the flexibility to insure our birds have the best available care, transport and chance of performing at the highest possible level, be that in the WRC races or as prep for future Channel Races.

Our Goal is simple to deliver Quality Inland Racing with a superb Competition, with all the convoy heading to the The same Area of Scotland, Racing in a competitive Open result, within your own environment,, with safety in numbers, But most importantly also insuring the Future of the sport.

 

First draft, of what we are looking a proposing for 2020.

( remember distance you fly isn’t always what everyone flys their will always be a longest and shortest flier, we must take every loft in The Region into account)

 

Proposed LRPF 2020 program

 

11th April - Kelso 64 miles

18th April - Kelso 64 miles

25th April - Hexham 97 miles

2nd May - Ripon 157 miles

9th May - Ripon 157 miles

16th May - Wetherby 170 miles

23rd May - WRC Worksop 210 - 235 miles

30th May - Ripon 157 miles

6th June - WRC NewMarket 300 - 325 miles

13th June - Kelso 64 miles

20th June - WRC Chelmsford 340- 365 miles

27th June - Kelso 64 miles

4th July - Ypres 450 miles

 

( Feds would vote as always to either go with SNFC or on their own as previous years

The WRC has no interest in Channel Racing, it’s sole purpose is to deliver quality inland racing and competition to the West Region )

 

Young Bird 2020

Kelso - 64 miles

Kelso - 64 miles

Hexham - 97 miles

Ripon - 157 miles

Ripon - 157 miles

Wetherby - W.R C. 170mile - 190 miles

 

In 2020 any start up or running costs of the WRC will be funded by Macaloney Pigeons.

Their after everything going to plan the organisation should be hopefully self Funding, running as close to non profit as possible, basically covering overheads, giving everything back to its members, also insuring Great inland Racing for years to come.

 

Why Now, why have we got involved ?

 

Let’s not try and pull the wool over any ones eyes, at some point all the above organisations will have to amalgamate, purely due to fall in membership, why not do it now, while we can and try and breath some life back into the sport. In the past it’s no secret that between our partnership we have all ran successful businesses throughout the years, which involved running an organisation and delivering on our promises. I personally see it as our way of giving back to the sport that has given us so much enjoyment for 4 generations, but also trying to improve our own Quality of racing.

 

After the last race of 2019 , this letter will be issued to all clubs and Feds with in the region, I would personally also like to visit all clubs in my own Federation to hear any issues,,suggestions or fears.. to sum up this club for me provides and Umbrella as such for all the feds to come together, taking all politics and personal issues out of the equation and fingers crossed providing what we should all want, a better quality of racing into the West Region.

 

Yours in sport

Paul Macaloney

 

Central marketing is the nail in the coffin for us, then back with a clock to much

[geordie1234]

Central marketing is the nail in the coffin for us, then back with a clock to much

 

Do you not go to any central marked races?

[Guest mambo]

What will the birdage cost be, and will there be the £1 levey for every race to all members in the WRA as some members pay a all in fee at start of season out with the Lanarkshire

[Paul Mac 31]

Alot of Positive movement on the WRC front... in the last 24hours we have established 3 marking stations

New house

Ayrshire

Glasgow

 

Again a show of commitment and working together.

 

So what's people's thoughts on the WRC as a whole, any gripes, issues or fears???

 

All input is welcome, what we want is as good an organisation as possible..

 

 

 

 

Birdage Fees have yet to be discussed, but I can a sure fanciers , it will be the same if not a lot less than your Inland Nationals

Guaranteed.

[Guest mambo]

Alot of Positive movement on the WRC front... in the last 24hours we have established 3 marking stations

New house

Ayrshire

Glasgow

 

Again a show of commitment and working together.

 

So what's people's thoughts on the WRC as a whole, any gripes, issues or fears???

 

All input is welcome, what we want is as good an organisation as possible..

 

 

 

 

Birdage Fees have yet to be discussed, but I can a sure fanciers , it will be the same if not a lot less than your Inland Nationals

Guaranteed.

There are a £1 levey on the use of the fed transportation will it apply to WRC new member's

[Delboy]

Alot of Positive movement on the WRC front... in the last 24hours we have established 3 marking stations

New house

Ayrshire

Glasgow

 

Again a show of commitment and working together.

 

So what's people's thoughts on the WRC as a whole, any gripes, issues or fears???

 

All input is welcome, what we want is as good an organisation as possible..

 

 

 

 

Birdage Fees have yet to be discussed, but I can a sure fanciers , it will be the same if not a lot less than your Inland Nationals

Guaranteed.

 

Forward thinking and very much needed in the west Region. Whoever ive spoke to about it are really looking forward to it. Whats not to like?

[geordie1234]

Forward thinking and very much needed in the west Region. Whoever ive spoke to about it are really looking forward to it. Whats not to like?

Totally agree it's going to be great

 

If you look at what the leinster premier club have done in Ireland too....offering an alternative to what is currently being served up! Their birdage is through the roof...presentation night top quality

[novo10]

Take it’s only for west region flyers

[dal2]

Take it’s only for west region flyers

Nae Solway???

[geordie1234]

Take it’s only for west region flyers

 

Yes

 

West Region Combine

Edited August 7, 2019 by geordie1234

[Paul Mac 31]

There are a £1 levey on the use of the fed transportation will it apply to WRC new member's

 

Of course that will continue for Lanarkshire Members who are using the transporter all year round.

That’s £1per fanciers entry,, as all the LRPF members know already and have agreed on.

 

Costs is simple, bottom line

It’s going to be cheaper, better transportation , all Members together, equal prize and positions.

[Paul Mac 31]

Forward thinking and very much needed in the west Region. Whoever ive spoke to about it are really looking forward to it. Whats not to like?

 

Derek as you know it’s been 5/6 years maybe more in the making,, imo the talking is done, let’s get together and get it done.

Their is not a fancier that it shouldn’t suit,,if serious about racing..

inland guys are getting great competition, safety in numbers,, in a true Open result

Channel lads are getting great prep for 500 mile races, I honestly believe with all the birds consistently heading in to the west Region the West Region National guys will Benefit 10fold In their desired races

[BIGPETE]

This sounds amazing. Hope it gets a lot of support and is a blue print for others to follow ðŸ‘

[Delboy]

Derek as you know it’s been 5/6 years maybe more in the making,, imo the talking is done, let’s get together and get it done.

Their is not a fancier that it shouldn’t suit,,if serious about racing..

inland guys are getting great competition, safety in numbers,, in a true Open result

Channel lads are getting great prep for 500 mile races, I honestly believe with all the birds consistently heading in to the west Region the West Region National guys will Benefit 10fold In their desired races

 

In business, as you know,you must look to the future and who your clientele will be. Well, in my opinion, this venture is looking to the future as we all know it is inevitable that we will eventually all be together anyway. Lanarkshire’s clientele is Glasgow, Ayrshire etc, etc so you are correct in what you’re doing, building bridges and bonds, FOR THE FUTURE .

[bibendium]

We have a debate running on FB for Ayrshire fanciers . Paul Mac joined last night and put a few issues to bed , in regards of marking stns etc . I am sure that by dialogue we will overcome any obsticles that might arise ,there will be some in each fed that will be 100 % against any change thats a given .but hopefully can be persuaded in due course. Early meetings and keeping fanciers informed of developments is the key.

[Guest mambo]

Is the wrc for the benefit of national racing,or fed racing as some racing the national only sent 120 birds to national races.safety in numbers don't apply there just now if we all voted for the same race program, we would all be at the same race site, but the only problem there is the site big enough to take 6-8 trucks to be released at the one time.

[Paul Mac 31]

Is the wrc for the benefit of national racing,or fed racing as some racing the national only sent 120 birds to national races.safety in numbers don't apply there just now if we all voted for the same race program, we would all be at the same race site, but the only problem there is the site big enough to take 6-8 trucks to be released at the one time.

 

In 2020 we will be looking at establishing a Brand New Racing Club.

 

The West Region Combine ( W.R.C)

 

Before going into details of our plans,

This clubs Foundation will live or die by firstly the vote of the LRPF members at their 2020 AGM, all the below will be proposed , If members vote To convoy as the WRC for these races ,,this is what we would be looking at creating........

 

( again I stress this is a guide line ,,,I.e dates and race points are not set in stone, also no one will lose their identity as Federations)

 

THE W.R.C

 

Open to all lofts Currently situated in the boundaries of West Region of either SNFC or SNRPC

Will consist of

3/4 inland old bird races

1 Young bird race

 

(These boundaries have been in place for decades, yes their will be some that want XYZ inc, but to get this off the ground we must build on what is already their)

 

Transportation will be that of LRPF, unless over 8000 Birds where alternative Geraldy transport will be added.

The W.R.C will be Controlled by the LRPF Race Control team.

 

( In essence it will run exactly like the Lanarkshire Social Circle has done successfully for Decades )

 

Central Marking will take place in EUROFAB Factory for the WRC races,

Situated in Newhouse industrial estate, directly off the M8 Motorway

Which provides a Dry , Clean environment and cover for over 500 plus fanciers their birds, Toilet facilities and Also will adequate car parking for Fanciers. With Transporter being loaded undercover infront of the members,,as the birds are marked and watered.

Also gives us flexibility in terms of basketing times.

 

( the Use of this factory will be donated by the Macaloney Family)

 

The WRC will race under SHU rules

( those who are not SHU members can simply, apply)

 

If all Federations within the Region Get on board

The WRC will consist of 3 sections

Lanarkshire ( any south Lanarkshire members who wish to join the WRC will be inc in this section)

Glasgow

Ayrshire

 

TheFederation boundary’s are already in place for each of the WRC Sections,,,any West Region member that is not in any of these Federations will be placed in the Section nearest his or her location for the Combine result.

 

( these Feds will be obviously urged to vote also to convoy with the WRC insuring we are all together)

 

The WRC Open result will consist of the fastest 50 birds from each Section

Thus giving a fair display across the Combine.

 

we are looking at Each Section having the same prize money for the 1,2,3 places

1st £250

2nd £150

3rd £100

 

A £5 NOM will be in place across the WRC Open result

No limit on the amount of birds that can be NOMINATED.

( 75% will go to the winners of the First NOM bird )

( 25% will be retained by the Club to help with running costs)

 

A £10 Loft pool will also be available for those wishing to enter.

Again paid out in a 75% -25%

 

(We would encourage that the competing Federations also have their own Open race on these days, as they have done in the past, thus providing alternative pools for their members, again the above is guide lines of what we could have. )

 

Presentation Night ( free )

Seasons 4/5 race Winners

- 4/5 major Trophies that will be the future Historical Refs for the club

12 Section winners - Medals

 

WRC ACE Birds Awards

worked on points system, a Top 10 will issued

( each Section 50 points for 1st, 1 point for 50th etc)

Most points wins, and so on, listed 1-10

 

Depending on running costs the ACE bird will the most prestigious prize in the WRC receiving in the regions of £1000.

Insuring the Multi Performance birds get true accolades.

 

Extra Funding.

An Annual sale will be held , containing Birds from the best lofts in Europe to boost funds.

Sponsorship will also be raised from various Feed companies and local businesses and Businessmen.

 

Facebook Live,,

Gone are the days of £1.50 to call a lib line, The WRC Facebook page will run live on Race Days , with members only pass ,allowing fanciers the option to record their first birds times as the race unfolds.

 

The Facebook Page will also deliver winning Results, reports,,updates,,lost birds etc.

 

Costs -£0,,, Only effort and time needed.

 

So What are We creating?

 

A footprint for the future of inland racing into the west of Scotland,with the flexibility to insure our birds have the best available care, transport and chance of performing at the highest possible level, be that in the WRC races or as prep for future Channel Races.

Our Goal is simple to deliver Quality Inland Racing with a superb Competition, with all the convoy heading to the The same Area of Scotland, Racing in a competitive Open result, within your own environment,, with safety in numbers, But most importantly also insuring the Future of the sport.

 

First draft, of what we are looking a proposing for 2020.

( remember distance you fly isn’t always what everyone flys their will always be a longest and shortest flier, we must take every loft in The Region into account)

 

Proposed LRPF 2020 program

 

11th April - Kelso 64 miles

18th April - Kelso 64 miles

25th April - Hexham 97 miles

2nd May - Ripon 157 miles

9th May - Ripon 157 miles

16th May - Wetherby 170 miles

23rd May - WRC Worksop 210 - 235 miles

30th May - Ripon 157 miles

6th June - WRC NewMarket 300 - 325 miles

13th June - Kelso 64 miles

20th June - WRC Chelmsford 340- 365 miles

27th June - Kelso 64 miles

4th July - Ypres 450 miles

 

( Feds would vote as always to either go with SNFC or on their own as previous years

The WRC has no interest in Channel Racing, it’s sole purpose is to deliver quality inland racing and competition to the West Region )

 

Young Bird 2020

Kelso - 64 miles

Kelso - 64 miles

Hexham - 97 miles

Ripon - 157 miles

Ripon - 157 miles

Wetherby - W.R C. 170mile - 190 miles

 

In 2020 any start up or running costs of the WRC will be funded by Macaloney Pigeons.

Their after everything going to plan the organisation should be hopefully self Funding, running as close to non profit as possible, basically covering overheads, giving everything back to its members, also insuring Great inland Racing for years to come.

 

Why Now, why have we got involved ?

 

Let’s not try and pull the wool over any ones eyes, at some point all the above organisations will have to amalgamate, purely due to fall in membership, why not do it now, while we can and try and breath some life back into the sport. In the past it’s no secret that between our partnership we have all ran successful businesses throughout the years, which involved running an organisation and delivering on our promises. I personally see it as our way of giving back to the sport that has given us so much enjoyment for 4 generations, but also trying to improve our own Quality of racing.

 

After the last race of 2019 , this letter will be issued to all clubs and Feds with in the region, I would personally also like to visit all clubs in my own Federation to hear any issues,,suggestions or fears.. to sum up this club for me provides and Umbrella as such for all the feds to come together, taking all politics and personal issues out of the equation and fingers crossed providing what we should all want, a better quality of racing into the West Region.

 

Yours in sport

Paul Macaloney

[dunc50]

Do you not go to any central marked races?

 

Yes and once a year is enough for me

[tommy bhoys]

forming a brand new racing club and not consulting the officials of the federation that you wish to be transported in is being disrespectful to the members and the officials

[Paul Mac 31]

forming a brand new racing club and not consulting the officials of the federation that you wish to be transported in is being disrespectful to the members and the officials

 

All the LRPF higher arch were informed 5 weeks ago,, all were very much supportive and on board 😉

[geordie1234]

All the LRPF higher arch were informed 5 weeks ago,, all were very much on board 😉

 

Good to hear the future looks gd